• Things I miss

    From IB Joe@VERT/JOESBBS to All on Tue Jan 18 09:57:00 2022
    I sometimes miss the way he said "China"

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to IB Joe on Tue Jan 18 12:32:07 2022
    Re: Things I miss
    By: IB Joe to All on Tue Jan 18 2022 09:57 am

    I sometimes miss the way he said "China"

    He who? Trump?

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to IB JOE on Wed Jan 19 16:42:00 2022
    I sometimes miss the way he said "China"

    I miss having gas under $2/gallon and I miss not having stagflation.


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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to DUMAS WALKER on Sun Feb 13 20:47:00 2022
    DUMAS WALKER wrote to IB JOE <=-

    I sometimes miss the way he said "China"

    I miss having gas under $2/gallon and I miss not having stagflation.
    It was like 2.89 in California just before Biden was installed after the coup.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 02:20:18 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to DUMAS WALKER on Sun Feb 13 2022 08:47 pm

    DUMAS WALKER wrote to IB JOE <=-

    I sometimes miss the way he said "China"

    I miss having gas under $2/gallon and I miss not having stagflation.
    It was like 2.89 in California just before Biden was installed after the coup.


    i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me a fucking arm and leg to gas up.
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  • From IB Joe@VERT/JOESBBS to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 08:44:00 2022
    On 13 Feb 2022, MATTHEW MUNSON said the following...
    It was like 2.89 in California just before Biden was installed after the coup.

    Day of reckoning not too far away...

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Feb 14 08:31:00 2022
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Monday 14.02.22 - 02:20, MRO wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:

    i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me a fucking arm and leg to gas up. -+-

    So.. after a couple more fillups you will be known as Matt.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Mon Feb 14 12:18:00 2022
    Ogg wrote to MRO <=-

    i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me a fucking arm and leg to gas up. -+-

    So.. after a couple more fillups you will be known as Matt.

    LOL! If he's in a pile of leaves we'll call him Russell.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Mon Feb 14 12:39:15 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Gamgee to Ogg on Mon Feb 14 2022 12:18 pm

    i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me
    a fucking arm and leg to gas up. -+-

    So.. after a couple more fillups you will be known as Matt.

    LOL! If he's in a pile of leaves we'll call him Russell.

    In water: Bob

    Hanging on a wall: Art

    In a hole: Phil

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  • From SYS64738@VERT/DIBZ to MRO on Mon Feb 14 09:07:30 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MRO to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 02:20:18

    i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me a fucking arm and leg to gas up.

    I feel your pain. I'm really envying my wife's 4 cylinder.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to SYS64738 on Mon Feb 14 14:29:29 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: SYS64738 to MRO on Mon Feb 14 2022 09:07 am

    i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me a
    fucking arm and leg to gas up.

    I feel your pain. I'm really envying my wife's 4 cylinder.

    My car is a relatively small car, but its fuel economy isn't quite as good as one might expect. It has a 2.5-liter 5-cylinder engine, and it generates decent power (which I like), but usually it averages about 19mpg in the city (I've seen it get about about 32mpg on the highway). It seems after my model year, they went to turbocharged 4-cylinder engines. I feel like a turbocharger is one more thing that can go wrong, but I suppose a 4-cylinder could get better fuel economy.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 16:02:00 2022
    I sometimes miss the way he said "China"

    I miss having gas under $2/gallon and I miss not having stagflation.
    It was like 2.89 in California just before Biden was installed after the coup.

    And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have some extra taxes applied to your per gallon cost (although KY has quite a few).


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 14 15:47:58 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 04:02 pm

    It was like 2.89 in California just before Biden was installed after
    the coup.

    And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have some extra taxes applied to your per gallon cost (although KY has quite a few).

    I'm not the person you were replying to, but where I am (Oregon), gas is around $3.70 to $4.15 per gallon.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to SYS64738 on Mon Feb 14 17:53:58 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: SYS64738 to MRO on Mon Feb 14 2022 09:07 am

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MRO to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 02:20:18

    i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me a fucking arm and leg to gas up.

    I feel your pain. I'm really envying my wife's 4 cylinder.

    i have a little car for gas milegage. i went on the road when it was snowing and did a fucking 360 spin on the highway.
    I wasn't even going fast OR turning. it felt like something just grabbed me and threw me.
    road crews suck in wisconsin.

    never again!
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Mon Feb 14 17:30:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Gamgee to Ogg on Mon Feb 14 2022 12:18 pm

    i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me
    a fucking arm and leg to gas up. -+-

    So.. after a couple more fillups you will be known as Matt.

    LOL! If he's in a pile of leaves we'll call him Russell.

    In water: Bob

    Hanging on a wall: Art

    In a hole: Phil

    Hahahaha!

    In a mailbox: Bill

    Two of them above a window: Curt 'n Rod

    Towed behind a ski boat: Skip



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Mon Feb 14 20:24:31 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 14 2022 03:47 pm


    And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have some extra taxes applied to your per gallon cost (although KY has quite a few).

    I'm not the person you were replying to, but where I am (Oregon), gas is around $3.70 to $4.15 per gallon.


    jesus christ. fuck that. why did people vote for biden.
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  • From Andrew Brook@VERT/TYCHOSTN to Dumas Walker on Tue Feb 15 11:04:05 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 16:02:00

    And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have some

    Here in Italy we can only dream of those prices LOL I pay $7.347 per gallon... (EUR 1.70 per liter).

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to MRO on Tue Feb 15 08:50:00 2022
    MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 14 2022 03:47 pm


    And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have some extra taxes applied to your per gallon cost (although KY has quite a few).

    I'm not the person you were replying to, but where I am (Oregon), gas is around $3.70 to $4.15 per gallon.


    jesus christ. fuck that. why did people vote for biden.

    I just paid $4.64 a gallon and that had my .5 cent per gallon savings. Of course we have all the CA. Taxes on fuel and Cap & Trade crap.... FJB!!


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  • From SYS64738@VERT/DIBZ to MRO on Tue Feb 15 10:59:48 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MRO to SYS64738 on Mon Feb 14 2022 17:53:58

    i have a little car for gas milegage. i went on the road when it was snowing and did a fucking 360 spin on the highway.

    I did that once in a friend's car. He had a small, barely more than a go-cart, grey something. We called it the "BB". Four bald tires, but it was paid off. Took a right at an intersection on a wet road and full 360...actually, it was more of a 540 because when we stopped we were facing in the direction we came from.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Tue Feb 15 17:01:00 2022
    It was like 2.89 in California just before Biden was installed after
    the coup.

    And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have some extra taxes applied to your per gallon cost (although KY has quite a few)

    I'm not the person you were replying to, but where I am (Oregon), gas is aroun
    $3.70 to $4.15 per gallon.

    I am guessing it is always more expensive on the West Coast than here.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andrew Brook on Tue Feb 15 18:16:51 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Andrew Brook to Dumas Walker on Tue Feb 15 2022 11:04 am

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 16:02:00

    And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have some

    Here in Italy we can only dream of those prices LOL I pay $7.347 per gallon... (EUR 1.70 per liter).

    that's insane. no wonder people ride bicycles.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Thumper on Tue Feb 15 18:18:46 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Thumper to MRO on Tue Feb 15 2022 08:50 am

    MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 14 2022 03:47 pm


    And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have some extra taxes applied to your per gallon cost (although KY has quite a few).

    I'm not the person you were replying to, but where I am (Oregon), gas is around $3.70 to $4.15 per gallon.


    jesus christ. fuck that. why did people vote for biden.

    I just paid $4.64 a gallon and that had my .5 cent per gallon savings. Of course we have all the CA. Taxes on fuel and Cap & Trade crap.... FJB!!


    looks like over here in milwaukee wi it's 3.09 but i paid 3.15 2 days ago.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to SYS64738 on Tue Feb 15 18:19:48 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: SYS64738 to MRO on Tue Feb 15 2022 10:59 am

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MRO to SYS64738 on Mon Feb 14 2022 17:53:58

    i have a little car for gas milegage. i went on the road when it was snowing and did a fucking 360 spin on the highway.

    I did that once in a friend's car. He had a small, barely more than a go-cart, grey something. We called it the "BB". Four bald tires, but it was paid off. Took a right at an intersection on a wet road and full 360...actually, it was more of a 540 because when we stopped we were facing in the direction we came from.

    i probably need 3 new tires, but my kia forte is so fucking light it wouldnt matter. i avoid snow at all costs with that car. great non winter car, though.
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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to MRO on Tue Feb 15 21:04:07 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MRO to Thumper on Tue Feb 15 2022 06:18 pm

    looks like over here in milwaukee wi it's 3.09 but i paid 3.15 2 days ago.

    A Kia in Milwaukee? That's brave.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andre on Tue Feb 15 23:00:09 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Andre to MRO on Tue Feb 15 2022 09:04 pm

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MRO to Thumper on Tue Feb 15 2022 06:18 pm

    looks like over here in milwaukee wi it's 3.09 but i paid 3.15 2 days ago.

    A Kia in Milwaukee? That's brave.


    they tried to steal it twice but they cant.
    i locked the wheel. they broke all the switches and ripped open everything and fucked it up. and it snowed and rained all night.

    2nd time someone walked up in broad daylight and used a screwdriver to pry the window open. the glass shot in their face and they ran.

    2nd time i had a club that goes on the pedal and wheel.
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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBSTEST to THUMPER on Wed Feb 16 09:38:00 2022
    --- THUMPER wrote ---

    I just paid $4.64 a gallon and that had my .5 cent per gallon savings. Of course we have all the CA. Taxes on fuel and Cap & Trade crap.... FJB!!


    In Lancashire it's 1.50 (pounds) a litre. So, that's 5.67 (pounds) a gallon.

    So, in dollars that's... $7.69 a gallon.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Andrew Brook on Wed Feb 16 18:30:15 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Andrew Brook to Dumas Walker on Tue Feb 15 2022 11:04 am

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Feb 14 2022 16:02:00

    And what is it now? It is just over $3 here. I suspect you all have som

    Here in Italy we can only dream of those prices LOL I pay $7.347 per gallon. (EUR 1.70 per liter).

    Ouch, in Australia we are paying $1.80 AUD per litre, that is what, 1 Euro? Approx?

    We have to drive a lot more though. Commutes in Australia are long.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to the doctor on Wed Feb 16 05:48:17 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: the doctor to THUMPER on Wed Feb 16 2022 09:38 am

    --- THUMPER wrote ---

    I just paid $4.64 a gallon and that had my .5 cent per gallon savings. Of course we have all the CA. Taxes on fuel and Cap & Trade crap.... FJB!!


    In Lancashire it's 1.50 (pounds) a litre. So, that's 5.67 (pounds) a gallon.

    So, in dollars that's... $7.69 a gallon.

    it should be cheap over there. dont you guys get oil from norway?
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Boraxman on Wed Feb 16 09:01:00 2022
    Boraxman wrote to Andrew Brook <=-

    Ouch, in Australia we are paying $1.80 AUD per litre, that is what, 1 Euro? Approx?

    We have to drive a lot more though. Commutes in Australia are long.

    Didn't GM make a solar powered car that went across Austrailia?

    Too many people would take that success as "See, you all can do that too."


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Wed Feb 16 09:12:48 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dr. What to Boraxman on Wed Feb 16 2022 09:01 am

    We have to drive a lot more though. Commutes in Australia are long.

    Didn't GM make a solar powered car that went across Austrailia?

    Too many people would take that success as "See, you all can do that too."


    yeah but the drivable area in australia isnt that big.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Wed Feb 16 09:25:44 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Boraxman to Andrew Brook on Wed Feb 16 2022 06:30 pm

    Ouch, in Australia we are paying $1.80 AUD per litre, that is what, 1 Euro? Approx?

    We have to drive a lot more though. Commutes in Australia are long.

    I imagine hybrids & diesels are popular in Australia?

    Nightfox

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to the doctor on Wed Feb 16 08:55:00 2022
    the doctor wrote to THUMPER <=-

    --- THUMPER wrote ---

    I just paid $4.64 a gallon and that had my .5 cent per gallon savings. Of course we have all the CA. Taxes on fuel and Cap & Trade crap.... FJB!!


    In Lancashire it's 1.50 (pounds) a litre. So, that's 5.67 (pounds) a gallon.

    So, in dollars that's... $7.69 a gallon.


    YIKES!! Wouldn't be driving my Chevy 4WD at those prices! Hell.... I don't drive it much as it is with our prices. Stick to my 2006 Scion xA at 39 or so MPG or my 2010 Camaro at 32 or so MPG.... I think the 4WD gets 10-12 maybe....


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed Feb 16 16:13:00 2022
    jesus christ. fuck that. why did people vote for biden.

    Because he didn't make their feelwings hurt.


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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBSTEST to THUMPER on Thu Feb 17 08:36:00 2022
    --- THUMPER wrote ---

    YIKES!! Wouldn't be driving my Chevy 4WD at those prices! Hell.... I
    don't
    drive it much as it is with our prices. Stick to my 2006 Scion xA at 39 or so
    MPG or my 2010 Camaro at 32 or so MPG.... I think the 4WD gets 10-12 maybe....


    I'd take the train to work but some idiot ripped it out in the 1970s. Not profitable I suppose. I'm going to start working from home at least one day
    a week to save money. As I'm the only IT guy...



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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Dr. What on Thu Feb 17 20:19:22 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dr. What to Boraxman on Wed Feb 16 2022 09:01 am

    Boraxman wrote to Andrew Brook <=-

    Ouch, in Australia we are paying $1.80 AUD per litre, that is what, 1 Euro? Approx?

    We have to drive a lot more though. Commutes in Australia are long.

    Didn't GM make a solar powered car that went across Austrailia?

    Too many people would take that success as "See, you all can do that too."


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to MRO on Thu Feb 17 20:21:51 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Wed Feb 16 2022 09:12 am

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dr. What to Boraxman on Wed Feb 16 2022 09:01 am

    We have to drive a lot more though. Commutes in Australia are long.

    Didn't GM make a solar powered car that went across Austrailia?

    Too many people would take that success as "See, you all can do that too.


    yeah but the drivable area in australia isnt that big.
    i cant get my solar panel to charge my freaking front door camera adequately

    You can still drive from top to bottom and left to right. But a lot is just, nothing. A LOT is nothing.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Thu Feb 17 20:22:50 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Wed Feb 16 2022 09:25 am

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Boraxman to Andrew Brook on Wed Feb 16 2022 06:30 pm

    Ouch, in Australia we are paying $1.80 AUD per litre, that is what, 1 Euro? Approx?

    We have to drive a lot more though. Commutes in Australia are long.

    I imagine hybrids & diesels are popular in Australia?

    Nightfox


    Diesels somewhat, hybrids probably less than elsewhere.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to the doctor on Thu Feb 17 06:13:00 2022
    the doctor wrote to THUMPER <=-

    I'd take the train to work but some idiot ripped it out in the 1970s.
    Not profitable I suppose. I'm going to start working from home at
    least one day a week to save money. As I'm the only IT guy...

    In the San Francisco bay area, the auto and tire manufacturers helped pay
    off the local government to rip out train tracks and pave more roads in the post-war period.


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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CAUGHT to SYS64738 on Sun Feb 20 10:26:15 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: SYS64738 to MRO on Mon Feb 14 2022 09:07 am

    i have been driving my truck because of the weather. it's costing me a fucking arm and leg to gas up.

    I feel your pain. I'm really envying my wife's 4 cylinder.

    Is it wrong to say that I simply don't care how much gas costs? Unless we choose to take public transportation we will remain a captive audience to the fuel pump. I've traveled throughout Europe and experienced a per-gallon cost upwards of $6 but their public transportation is far superior to the US. Then again, I was in Boston earlier this month and found their public transportation to be both reasonable priced, comprehensive, and got me where I needed to go.

    In other words... meh!

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CAUGHT to MRO on Sun Feb 20 10:54:30 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Feb 14 2022 08:24 pm

    I'm not the person you were replying to, but where I am (Oregon), gas is around $3.70 to $4.15 per gallon.

    jesus christ. fuck that. why did people vote for biden.

    Presidents have no control over the cost of gasoline. It is the oil cartels that drive prices up through the reduction of supply.

    Crude Oil Prices - Historical Annual Data

    Year Avg$ Open$ High$ Low$ Close$ Change%
    2022 $86.24 $76.08 $95.46 $76.08 $90.55 20.40%
    2021 $68.17 $47.62 $84.65 $47.62 $75.21 55.01%
    2020 $39.68 $61.17 $63.27 $11.26 $48.52 -20.64%
    2019 $56.99 $46.31 $66.24 $46.31 $61.14 35.42%
    2018 $65.23 $60.37 $77.41 $44.48 $45.15 -25.32%
    2017 $50.80 $52.36 $60.46 $42.48 $60.46 12.48%
    2016 $43.29 $36.81 $54.01 $26.19 $53.75 44.76%
    2015 $48.66 $52.72 $61.36 $34.55 $37.13 -30.53%
    2014 $93.17 $95.14 $107.95 $53.45 $53.45 -45.55%
    2013 $97.98 $93.14 $110.62 $86.65 $98.17 6.90%
    2012 $94.05 $102.96 $109.39 $77.72 $91.83 -7.08%
    2011 $94.88 $91.59 $113.39 $75.40 $98.83 8.15%
    2010 $79.48 $81.52 $91.48 $64.78 $91.38 15.10%
    2009 $61.95 $46.17 $81.03 $34.03 $79.39 78.00%
    2008 $99.67 $99.64 $145.31 $30.28 $44.60 -53.52%
    2007 $72.34 $60.77 $99.16 $50.51 $95.95 57.68%
    2006 $66.05 $63.11 $77.05 $55.90 $60.85 -0.34%
    2005 $56.64 $42.16 $69.91 $42.16 $61.06 40.82%
    2004 $41.51 $33.71 $56.37 $32.49 $43.36 33.37%
    2003 $31.08 $31.97 $37.96 $25.25 $32.51 4.17%
    2002 $26.19 $21.13 $32.68 $18.02 $31.21 56.36%
    2001 $25.98 $27.29 $32.21 $17.50 $19.96 -25.30%
    2000 $30.38 $25.56 $37.22 $23.91 $26.72 3.73%
    1999 $19.35 $12.42 $28.03 $11.38 $25.76 112.19%
    1998 $14.42 $17.41 $17.93 $10.82 $12.14 -31.22%
    1997 $20.61 $25.55 $26.55 $17.60 $17.65 -31.85%
    1996 $22.12 $19.83 $26.55 $17.33 $25.90 32.55%
    1995 $18.43 $17.45 $20.53 $16.86 $19.54 9.96%
    1994 $17.20 $14.52 $20.72 $13.89 $17.77 25.23%
    1993 $18.43 $19.03 $21.05 $13.98 $14.19 -27.19%
    1992 $20.58 $19.43 $23.03 $17.89 $19.49 1.78%
    1991 $21.54 $26.53 $32.25 $17.43 $19.15 -32.76%
    1990 $24.53 $22.88 $41.07 $15.43 $28.48 30.40%
    1989 $19.64 $17.38 $24.62 $16.99 $21.84 27.57%
    1988 $15.97 $17.77 $18.54 $12.58 $17.12 2.27%
    1987 $19.20 $18.13 $22.44 $15.12 $16.74 -6.64%


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  • From IB Joe@VERT/JOESBBS to Dream Master on Sun Feb 20 14:09:00 2022
    On 20 Feb 2022, Dream Master said the following...
    Presidents have no control over the cost of gasoline. It is the oil cartels that drive prices up through the reduction of supply.

    Not true.... This president canceled pipelines and shut down drilling on his first day. The US went from exporting energy to depending on it in one day.

    I was watching the news today and the US is 500,000 barrels a day less because of Joe Biden's choices and now he's asking OPEC to crank out more production.

    Today's gas prices lay squarely on Joe's feet. If you ask Kamala what the Root causes are she'll tell you the same...

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DREAM MASTER on Wed Feb 23 22:16:00 2022
    Exactly. People don't seem to understand the savings by taking
    public transportation. You're not paying for auto insurance,
    fuel, upkeep, potentially parking, and if you lease or are making
    car payments, car payments. A $200 public transportation pass is
    a hell of a lot cheaper than all those other expenses. Plus, you
    can write-off the pass.

    How long is that $200 pass good for?


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THE DOCTOR on Wed Feb 23 22:18:00 2022
    And so on. I just don't go to Manchester if I can avoid it.

    In which state/country is this Manchester? I have been back and forth
    through a Manchester in Ohio. They don't appear to have public transport,
    but they probably do have plenty of crack/meth heads.


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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Dumas Walker on Thu Feb 24 00:51:46 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to THE DOCTOR on Wed Feb 23 2022 04:18 pm

    In which state/country is this Manchester? I have been back and forth through a Manchester in Ohio. They don't appear to have public transport, but they probably do have plenty of crack/meth heads.

    Northern England. X43 would be like those big coach buses you can take between nearby major cities in the US.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Thu Feb 24 01:49:15 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to DREAM MASTER on Wed Feb 23 2022 04:16 pm

    Exactly. People don't seem to understand the savings by taking
    public transportation. You're not paying for auto insurance,
    fuel, upkeep, potentially parking, and if you lease or are making
    car payments, car payments. A $200 public transportation pass is
    a hell of a lot cheaper than all those other expenses. Plus, you
    can write-off the pass.

    How long is that $200 pass good for?


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    My boss used to give me a bus pass worth 100 euros which lasted 3 months or until you used up 15 trips. It was for intercity trips only. THey had a nice movie catalog in that bus line and internet was included, so you could do a lot of work or moviewatching during the trip.

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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBSTEST to DUMAS WALKER on Thu Feb 24 16:22:00 2022
    --- DUMAS WALKER wrote ---

    In which state/country is this Manchester? I have been back and forth through a Manchester in Ohio. They don't appear to have public
    transport, but they probably do have plenty of crack/meth heads.

    Sorry, Manchester England...


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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to the doctor on Thu Feb 24 12:33:05 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: the doctor to DUMAS WALKER on Thu Feb 24 2022 10:22 am

    Sorry, Manchester England...

    I was going to say that you shouldn't apologize for someone confusing a large city for a town with about two street lights and a gas station.

    But then I remembered... British. :)


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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBSTEST to ANDRE on Thu Feb 24 21:30:00 2022
    --- ANDRE wrote ---

    Sorry, Manchester England...

    I was going to say that you shouldn't apologize for someone confusing a large city for a town with about two street lights and a gas station.

    But then I remembered... British. :)

    Heh. I'm actually an American, but I've lived in the UK for about 21 years now...

    I'm addicted to my socialist healthcare now, so I'm staying.



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Thu Feb 24 18:42:00 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Arelor to MRO on Tue Feb 22 2022 05:22 pm

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Feb 22 2022 02:58 pm

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue Feb 22 2022 09:01 am


    Also, costly for whom? If you don't own a car at all, taking public t can be less expensive than owning a car and paying for gas, maintenanc insurance, etc..

    public transportation is inconvenient, costly to the user and the city an dangerous due to the types of people that use it.

    i took public transportation for a while when i had to share a car and it money and took more time. i was often late to work and i got home an hour lived 15 mins away by car. i took my bike in the summer months and beat time.

    the only good thing is i was the only guy on the bus in the morning. so t waste of city money to drive one dude to 1 place with 2 buses.

    It really depends on the area.

    In my city, public transport funded by the administration (ie. taxes) is usu but also close to useless. It is the sort of public transport which does sch trips which are programmed to arrive to factory X half an hour after the corresponding turn begins :-S

    Collective transport funded by private enterprises is a bit better. It is mu than using a car but coverage is very limited. If you are likely enough to h private bus doing a regular line you want to travel, at hours which are fine it is great. If such coincidence does not happen, you either don't get to us you get to use it at very inconvenient hours.

    A friend of mine emigrated to Japan. He came back recently to pay a visit to family. The first thing he did upon purchasing a subway card was to say "You robbed like this anywhere but home."


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    Closest thing to public transportation is Dial a Ride. It is funded by passengers and state grants and millages. there is a fixed route and demand response service. Demand response is more expensive. Either way, you're at the mercy of when the bus shows up or how much they have to deviate off the fixed route to fulfill demand response. DART covers two townships, so you better be prepared to take the scenic route and lots of time to spare for travel. For example, if i wanted to go to the store, I would have to call
    the central hub, and let them know where I live. They will give me an
    estimate of what time a bus may be diverted to my area. Once finished
    shopping, I will have to wait outside the store for the bus heading back
    close to my home to come back through. Buses only run 7am to 5 pm M-F. Saturdays are 10am to 3pm. That's demand response. Fixed route is only M-F 10am -5pm.

    No Sundays, no major holidays. If you're sick or
    appear to be sick with something contageous, forget that ride to the walk-in clinic.

    Asuming I worked within the bus route's boundaries. there would be no way for me to fit most companies work shifts within their running hours including
    a deviated route schedule. Overtime is out of the question.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDRE on Thu Feb 24 21:59:00 2022
    In which state/country is this Manchester? I have been back and forth through a Manchester in Ohio. They don't appear to have public transport, but they probably do have plenty of crack/meth heads.

    Northern England. X43 would be like those big coach buses you can take between >earby major cities in the US.

    I figured it was but wanted to be sure there was not some other Manchester
    here that I needed to avoid at night! :)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Fri Feb 25 03:03:43 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Feb 24 2022 12:42 pm

    Closest thing to public transportation is Dial a Ride. It is funded by passengers and state grants and millages. there is a fixed route and demand response service. Demand response is more expensive. Either way, you're at the mercy of when the bus shows up or how much they have to deviate off the fixed route to fulfill demand response. DART covers two townships, so you better be prepared to take the scenic route and lots of time to spare for travel. For example, if i wanted to go to the store, I would have to call the central hub, and let them know where I live. They will give me an estimate of what time a bus may be diverted to my area. Once finished shopping, I will have to wait outside the store for the bus heading back close to my home to come back through. Buses only run 7am to 5 pm M-F. Saturdays are 10am to 3pm. That's demand response. Fixed route is only M-F


    we had something like that in my home city when they drastically cut the bus service. it fell apart.

    stuff like this is why ridesharing services thrive.
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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CAUGHT to Dumas Walker on Fri Feb 25 06:09:00 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to DREAM MASTER on Wed Feb 23 2022 04:16 pm

    How long is that $200 pass good for?

    Here, in Colorado, one month.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dream Master on Fri Feb 25 15:17:53 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dream Master to Dumas Walker on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:09 am

    How long is that $200 pass good for?

    Here, in Colorado, one month.

    If you can do without a car, then depending on your situation, $200 per month for a public transit pass may be less expensive than car insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan, etc.. And without a car, you don't have to worry about the cost of maintenance and repairs.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DREAM MASTER on Fri Feb 25 21:33:00 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to DREAM MASTER on Wed Feb 23 2022 04:16 pm

    How long is that $200 pass good for?

    Here, in Colorado, one month.

    That is about the same as upkeep on my vehicle, at least until Biden got elected and gas went back up to Obama-era prices.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Fri Feb 25 23:34:40 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Fri Feb 25 2022 09:17 am

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dream Master to Dumas Walker on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:09 am

    How long is that $200 pass good for?

    Here, in Colorado, one month.

    If you can do without a car, then depending on your situation, $200 per mont for a public transit pass may be less expensive than car insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan, etc.. And without a car, you don't h to worry about the cost of maintenance and repairs.

    Nightfox


    I feel like some sort of Armchair Macho saying this, but if you live in a middle sized town you don't need any transport but a good pair of boots. As long as you are young and have time to spare :-)

    They used to run the numbers every now and then in journals and documentaries around here, and collective transport (buses, metros and such) are more cost effective than your regular car, but more modest means of private transport (such as motorbikes or budget cars) were even cheaper.

    My main gripe with collective transport is that the administration is trying to push it very hard, but they don't have an actual plan. The proper way of having people use collective transport would be to make collective transport so damn good that you would not need private transport at all - this is, you would not bother getting a car because you know you can use a bus instead and get all the transport you need for little buck. However, the administrations here are doing it the other way around: they attempt to make it harder for you to use your own transportation, in the hope that you will give up and send your car to the scrap yard, but they don't offer you an alternative. Which means, they may force Francisco to give his car up because he can no longer pay the asociated taxes, but then Francisco is given no means for travelling between his village and the cattle market office for work. What the government does is to give you a bus that passes-by every 4 days at the 20:00 and tells you to be a good citizen and use that instead of your car.

    I am undescribably bummed by this because there is talk here about increasing the costs of private intercity transport by billing tolls each time you go in or out of a small to middle-sized town. If you don't want to pay the toll you are supposed to get an inoperative collective transport instead, which obviously won¨'t cut it. Lots of small parcel delivery tasks would be overburdened: if you have a small company delivering packages to nearby villages from a city, they will bleed you dry each time your van goes in and out. As you may guess, the end result is that Grannie Antonieta, the end consumer, is going to be the one paying the price in the end, because distribution companies are just going to add the tax costs to the prices of final products.

    And this is yet another reason why Spanish Administration is not worth the napalm needed to make it burn in Hell.


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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CAUGHT to Nightfox on Fri Feb 25 20:24:35 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Fri Feb 25 2022 09:17 am

    Here, in Colorado, one month.

    If you can do without a car, then depending on your situation, $200 per month for a public transit pass may be less expensive than car insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan, etc.. And without a car, you don't have to worry about the cost of maintenance and repairs.

    Prior to COVID, my company provided $80 towards the pass, costing me $120/mo. The savings and overall reduction in frustration was well worth. At the time, I had car payments, but not paying for parking, etc., was well worth it.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Fri Feb 25 22:31:34 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to DREAM MASTER on Fri Feb 25 2022 03:33 pm

    How long is that $200 pass good for?

    Here, in Colorado, one month.

    That is about the same as upkeep on my vehicle, at least until Biden got elected and gas went back up to Obama-era prices.

    Obama-era? I remember when gas got above $4.00 a gallon (and trending toward $5) in 2008, when George W Bush was still president.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Sat Feb 26 00:48:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to Dream Master <=-

    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dream Master to Dumas Walker on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:09 am

    How long is that $200 pass good for?

    Here, in Colorado, one month.

    If you can do without a car, then depending on your situation,
    $200 per month for a public transit pass may be less expensive
    than car insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan,
    etc.. And without a car, you don't have to worry about the cost
    of maintenance and repairs.

    Sure, it's very likely the cheaper option, but you give up the freedom
    (and the convenience) that a car provides. EASILY worth the extra cost,
    to me.



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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CAUGHT to Dumas Walker on Sat Feb 26 05:00:33 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Dumas Walker to DREAM MASTER on Fri Feb 25 2022 03:33 pm

    Here, in Colorado, one month.

    That is about the same as upkeep on my vehicle, at least until Biden got elected and gas went back up to Obama-era prices.

    Since I work from home, we can't count me. My wife babysits our grandchildren at our daughter's house, one of our vehicles needs to be filled up about once a week ($65/week). My other daughter steals my car when she goes to work, requiring a fill-up about once every week and a half ($55/10 days). Between these two, $400ish a month.

    I've been going back and forth on replacing my car with a new Ford Expedition Platinum Max (love the room and comfort, the tech is okay, good power). After renting one in Southern California and Boston, I discovered it gets worse gas mileage than most V8s (RAM 1500, for example). I'm torn. Plus, do I really want my daughter driving my newest vehicle? ;)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Sat Feb 26 06:34:21 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Fri Feb 25 2022 06:48 pm

    $200 per month for a public transit pass may be less expensive
    than car insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan,
    etc.. And without a car, you don't have to worry about the cost
    of maintenance and repairs.

    Sure, it's very likely the cheaper option, but you give up the freedom (and the convenience) that a car provides. EASILY worth the extra cost,
    to me.

    Yeah. I like the freedom and convenience of having a car and normally would want to take public transit only if I had a good reason to.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Sat Feb 26 16:18:00 2022
    Here, in Colorado, one month.

    That is about the same as upkeep on my vehicle, at least until Biden got elected and gas went back up to Obama-era prices.

    Obama-era? I remember when gas got above $4.00 a gallon (and trending toward ) in 2008, when George W Bush was still president.

    For whatever reason, they didn't get that high here.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DREAM MASTER on Sat Feb 26 16:24:00 2022
    That is about the same as upkeep on my vehicle, at least until Biden got elected and gas went back up to Obama-era prices.

    Since I work from home, we can't count me. My wife babysits our grandchildren
    t our daughter's house, one of our vehicles needs to be filled up about once a
    eek ($65/week). My other daughter steals my car when she goes to work, requir
    g a fill-up about once every week and a half ($55/10 days). Between these two
    $400ish a month.

    I've been going back and forth on replacing my car with a new Ford Expedition atinum Max (love the room and comfort, the tech is okay, good power). After r
    ting one in Southern California and Boston, I discovered it gets worse gas mil
    ge than most V8s (RAM 1500, for example). I'm torn. Plus, do I really want m
    daughter driving my newest vehicle? ;)

    I also work from home 4 days a week currently. Work is roughly a 10-mile roundtrip. The difference may be that I don't buy SUVs or big trucks. :)
    I know some people, for whatever reason, do need them but I don't have a
    big family or reason to haul a lot of people/stuff around so I usually
    don't.

    There are some places I go when I am on vacation where it would be nice to
    at least have a car with AWD and/or better ground clearance, though!


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sat Feb 26 13:03:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to Dream Master <=-

    If you can do without a car, then depending on your situation, $200 per month for a public transit pass may be less expensive than car
    insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan, etc.. And
    without a car, you don't have to worry about the cost of maintenance
    and repairs.

    If you're in a big city, add in the cost of parking tickets. When I was in college in San Francisco without a parking space, tickets may have been my biggest expense.

    This was before smart phones and calendars that could tell you if it was the first or third Friday of the month when looking at the street cleaning
    signs.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sat Feb 26 13:05:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    That is about the same as upkeep on my vehicle, at least until Biden got elected and gas went back up to Obama-era prices.

    Obama-era? I remember when gas got above $4.00 a gallon (and trending toward $5) in 2008, when George W Bush was still president.

    This is the debate echo, not the FACTS echo.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dream Master on Sat Feb 26 13:08:00 2022
    Dream Master wrote to Dumas Walker <=-


    Since I work from home, we can't count me. My wife babysits our grandchildren at our daughter's house, one of our vehicles needs to be filled up about once a week ($65/week). My other daughter steals my
    car when she goes to work, requiring a fill-up about once every week
    and a half ($55/10 days). Between these two, $400ish a month.

    I work mostly from home nowadays (only go into the office to babysit a
    handful of servers) and drive a Prius Plug-in from 2014. 10 miles of
    electric range and a blended 55 mpg means I fill up once every 2 weeks or
    so. about $40 each time. :)

    I'm looking for something new, but the MPG keeps me driving it. I hate the
    new Priuses.


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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Feb 27 15:59:13 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Feb 26 2022 07:05 am

    This is the debate echo, not the FACTS echo.

    Everyone thinks they've got the facts. I did a search in here and General the other day for the word "fact." Sure had a lot of hits.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Sun Feb 27 17:14:00 2022
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Friday 25.02.22 - 17:34, Arelor wrote to Nightfox:

    [...] but then Francisco is given no means for travelling
    between his village and the cattle market office for work.
    What the government does is to give you a bus that passes-
    by every 4 days at the 20:00 and tells you to be a good
    citizen and use that instead of your car.

    I am undescribably bummed by this because there is talk
    here about increasing the costs of private intercity
    transport by billing tolls each time you go in or out of a
    small to middle-sized town. [...]

    Isn't that nightmare and the stupidity of that approach being
    debated in your parliament?


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Sun Feb 27 17:27:21 2022
    Re: Things I miss
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Feb 27 2022 11:14 am

    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Friday 25.02.22 - 17:34, Arelor wrote to Nightfox:

    [...] but then Francisco is given no means for travelling
    between his village and the cattle market office for work.
    What the government does is to give you a bus that passes-
    by every 4 days at the 20:00 and tells you to be a good
    citizen and use that instead of your car.

    I am undescribably bummed by this because there is talk
    here about increasing the costs of private intercity
    transport by billing tolls each time you go in or out of a
    small to middle-sized town. [...]

    Isn't that nightmare and the stupidity of that approach being
    debated in your parliament?

    They debate everything, and they always take the worst decision possible.

    I wish I was looking the trainwreck from outside. Then I could have popcorn watching a moronic country self-destruct.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Sun Feb 27 17:33:35 2022
    Re: Things I miss
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Feb 27 2022 11:14 am

    Isn't that nightmare and the stupidity of that approach being
    debated in your parliament?

    Besides, it is not a reality yet, but a clearly estated intention. MOst likely they will start soft-removing (aka taxing to death) vehicles they dislike and then proceed down on the rest of vehicles until regular people cannot use a vehicle for personal use anymore. The transition is a decade long plan.

    They started a year ago or so by impossing impossible speed limits and removing parking areas in the cities who are on board with the idea, as to make it impractical to use a car in them. Some cities have gone bonkers, turning some vital roads into single lane avenues so traffic is deadly slow and a car is no use.

    The fun part is most people I know are not on board with the idea. So much for democracy and rules doing what the people tells them to do.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Feb 27 21:22:36 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Feb 26 2022 07:03 am

    If you can do without a car, then depending on your situation, $200
    per month for a public transit pass may be less expensive than car
    insurance, gas, perhaps a car loan if you have a loan, etc.. And
    without a car, you don't have to worry about the cost of maintenance
    and repairs.

    If you're in a big city, add in the cost of parking tickets. When I was in college in San Francisco without a parking space, tickets may have been my biggest expense.

    This was before smart phones and calendars that could tell you if it was the first or third Friday of the month when looking at the street cleaning signs.

    Yep, parking tickets are another factor.

    Nightfox

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 28 05:34:29 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Feb 26 2022 07:05 am

    That is about the same as upkeep on my vehicle, at least until Biden
    got elected and gas went back up to Obama-era prices.

    Obama-era? I remember when gas got above $4.00 a gallon (and
    trending toward $5) in 2008, when George W Bush was still president.

    This is the debate echo, not the FACTS echo.

    REALLY? Facts can be debated you know.
    Are you people just trying to run conservatives out of any and all forms of media?
    It's like you think only socialist's can say anything.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 28 05:41:01 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dream Master on Sat Feb 26 2022 07:08 am

    Since I work from home, we can't count me. My wife babysits our
    grandchildren at our daughter's house, one of our vehicles needs to
    be filled up about once a week ($65/week). My other daughter steals
    my car when she goes to work, requiring a fill-up about once every
    week and a half ($55/10 days). Between these two, $400ish a month.

    I work mostly from home nowadays (only go into the office to babysit a handful of servers) and drive a Prius Plug-in from 2014. 10 miles of electric range and a blended 55 mpg means I fill up once every 2 weeks or so. about $40 each time. :)

    I'm looking for something new, but the MPG keeps me driving it. I hate the new Priuses.

    I drive a 2017 nissan versa sedan good old 100% reliable gas engine, I get 39 to 43 MPG and don't ever need to plug it in.
    about $35 to fill it up every other week.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Denn on Mon Feb 28 12:12:00 2022
    Denn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    REALLY? Facts can be debated you know.

    Are you people just trying to run conservatives out of any and all
    forms of media?

    It's like you think only socialist's can say anything.

    Wow. Just... wow.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Mar 2 18:16:15 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon Feb 28 2022 06:12 am

    REALLY? Facts can be debated you know.

    Are you people just trying to run conservatives out of any and all
    forms of media?

    It's like you think only socialist's can say anything.

    Wow. Just... wow.

    and the sad part is that what I said is true.

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  • From cr1mson@VERT/STEPPING to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Mar 10 01:48:00 2022
    Re: Re: Things I miss
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon Feb 28 2022 06:12 am

    Denn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    REALLY? Facts can be debated you know.

    Are you people just trying to run conservatives out of any and all
    forms of media?

    It's like you think only socialist's can say anything.

    I think anyone will say anything pushed enough and often enough. I think it's just human nature. Along the way people put labels on things. It had to be better just to see things as it were then defining anything.
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