• What's Everyone Watching?

    From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to All on Fri Jan 28 13:06:31 2022
    I am presently watching The Book of Boba Fett on Disney+ which is still being released weekly. We are on episode 5/7 now and things are beginning to reach a climax.

    Other than that I am working through Netflix's Neymar: The Perfect Chaos. I am always blown away by the quality of pretty much any Netflix docuseries and this one is no different. It chronicles the journey of the Brazillian football star Neymar from his impoverished youth in Sao Paulo to joining Santos on a youth contract and thereafter making it big with FC Barcelona and later Paris Saint-Germain.

    What are all of you watching?

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Andeddu on Fri Jan 28 10:24:22 2022
    Re: What's Everyone Watching?
    By: Andeddu to All on Fri Jan 28 2022 01:06 pm

    What are all of you watching?

    I'm enjoying 1883.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Fri Jan 28 20:35:00 2022
    Andeddu wrote to All <=-

    I am presently watching The Book of Boba Fett on Disney+ which is

    <SNIP>

    What are all of you watching?

    Currently on season 2 of Ozark on Netflix. Outstanding.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Digital Man on Mon Jan 31 06:31:00 2022
    Digital Man wrote to Andeddu <=-

    What are all of you watching?

    I'm enjoying 1883.

    Same here. I saw The Hero a while back, and Sam Elliot looked 15 years older in it than he does in 1883. Loved his character in both.

    His talk with Elsa in the latest episode was gut-wrenching.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Andeddu on Mon Jan 31 16:11:51 2022
    On 1/28/22 06:06, Andeddu wrote:

    What are all of you watching?

    Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
    liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
    think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
    transition very well in the earlier episodes... If they'd done more of
    the flashbacks in chronological order, with "5 years earlier" or
    something similar when he came out of the sarlac pitt (sp) it would have
    been better. The editing isn't as good as it could/should be.

    Started on Peacemaker this past weekend, far better than it has any
    right to be, but my expectations were incredibly low.

    I also watch Rookie, Blue Bloods, Superman & Lois and a handful of others.
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  • From aLPHA@VERT/ALPHACOM to Tracker1 on Tue Feb 1 02:20:02 2022
    Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
    liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
    think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the

    Right-on. So bummed what the series turned into, the myth of Fett was
    much more interesting than this stuff. But yeah, last week's EP --
    basically S3 EP1 of The Mandolorian -- was pretty good!

    Started on Peacemaker this past weekend, far better than it has any
    right to be, but my expectations were incredibly low.

    So into this show. Violent, flithy and funny. And some deep cuts from the
    DC Universe.. Hell, Kite Man even got a shout last week!

    Started The Guilded Age with my wife, but alas -- felt like network TV
    garbage writing, which is a shame, I actually liked Downton Abbey...



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Tue Feb 1 00:48:42 2022
    Re: Re: What's Everyone Watching?
    By: Tracker1 to Andeddu on Mon Jan 31 2022 04:11 pm

    On 1/28/22 06:06, Andeddu wrote:

    What are all of you watching?

    Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
    liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
    think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
    transition very well in the earlier episodes... If they'd done more of
    the flashbacks in chronological order, with "5 years earlier" or
    something similar when he came out of the sarlac pitt (sp) it would have been better. The editing isn't as good as it could/should be.

    Started on Peacemaker this past weekend, far better than it has any
    right to be, but my expectations were incredibly low.

    I also watch Rookie, Blue Bloods, Superman & Lois and a handful of others. --

    i'm not going to watch it because disney canceled that muscle chick.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Tracker1 on Tue Feb 1 16:15:30 2022
    Re: Re: What's Everyone Watching?
    By: Tracker1 to Andeddu on Mon Jan 31 2022 04:11 pm

    Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
    liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
    think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
    transition very well in the earlier episodes... If they'd done more of
    the flashbacks in chronological order, with "5 years earlier" or
    something similar when he came out of the sarlac pitt (sp) it would have been better. The editing isn't as good as it could/should be.

    I feel the same way about Boba Fett's character. In the original movies he was quiet, mysterious and clearly morally bankrupt. Disney have retconned this version of Fett and turned him into a naive do-gooder who is soft on his enemies. I am still enjoying the series though as the spin-offs are way better than the main-line movies which are just embarrassing. Episode 5 is, ironically, the best so far for me also which is hilarious because Fett doesn't feature in it for even a second. Some of the decisions in the earlier episodes are strange too, such as the augmented Vespa gang who couldn't have looked more ridiculous and out of place in a Star Wars production. There are only 2 more episodes remaining so I reckon it'll reach a rushed conclusion.

    TBoBF overall lacks the quality writing of The Mandalorian.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to aLPHA on Tue Feb 1 16:20:24 2022
    Re: Re: What's Everyone Watching?
    By: aLPHA to Tracker1 on Tue Feb 01 2022 02:20 am

    Right-on. So bummed what the series turned into, the myth of Fett was
    much more interesting than this stuff. But yeah, last week's EP --
    basically S3 EP1 of The Mandolorian -- was pretty good!

    He is a literal clone of Jango who was absolutely fucking ruthless... despite being the Daimio, Fennec Shand clearly wears the trousers in their relationship.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Andeddu on Wed Feb 2 06:50:00 2022
    Andeddu wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    second. Some of the decisions in the earlier episodes are strange too, such as the augmented Vespa gang who couldn't have looked more
    ridiculous and out of place in a Star Wars production.

    Kitted-up vespa speeders on a rim world that's obviously at the tail end of the supply runs, based on the overall look and feel of Tatooine.

    I would like to see Luke's speeder appear in the background somewhere.


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Feb 3 17:49:32 2022
    Re: Re: What's Everyone Watching?
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Andeddu on Wed Feb 02 2022 06:50 am

    Kitted-up vespa speeders on a rim world that's obviously at the tail end of the supply runs, based on the overall look and feel of Tatooine.

    I would like to see Luke's speeder appear in the background somewhere.

    The entire American Grafitti vibe I got from those Vespas was so jarring. The gang felt like they were shoe-horned in also... I could have done without them and their weird outfits.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Andeddu on Fri Feb 4 06:53:00 2022
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    The entire American Grafitti vibe I got from those Vespas was so
    jarring. The gang felt like they were shoe-horned in also... I could
    have done without them and their weird outfits.

    It reminded me of the William Gibson/Neal Stephenson cyberpunk worlds, or if one of them had written "Hackers". Again, doesn't fit into the rim world trope.


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 7 01:08:25 2022
    Re: Re: What's Everyone Watching?
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Andeddu on Fri Feb 04 2022 06:53 am

    It reminded me of the William Gibson/Neal Stephenson cyberpunk worlds, or if one of them had written "Hackers". Again, doesn't fit into the rim world trope.

    They don't appear to be natives nor do they seem to have a legitimate place on Tatooine other than being a gang of ruffians. It's a bit of a strange design choice to include them, but nevermind... they are canon now.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Mon Feb 14 17:06:00 2022
    After watching Episode IX, I am not even sure Disney considered Episode VI canon!

    Maybe not! That really would not surprise me. People thought that JJ
    Abrams ruined the prequels... I don't think they were ready for what Disney might have had in mind.

    I would be surprised if Disney gave consideration to anything in TCW as it would appear most of the writers have only the most rudimentary understanding of the universe and characters. There is talk of Bib Fortuna being the former daimyo after Jabba the Hutt... but that's all we hear of it.

    Book SPOILERS!
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    I had heard that, in TBOBF, Bobba Fett supposedly dethrowned Bib Fortuna
    before taking over Jabba's palace. If that is not the case, then maybe
    they did retain some of the litterary canon. In one of the books, it is explained that the palace used to be a monestary, and the brainwalkers are former monks who had isolated themselves from all physical sensations. Apparently, when Jabba's crime syndicate moved in, they did not kick the
    monks out, and both the still-embodied monks and the brainwalkers still
    inhabit part of the palace.

    After Jabba's demise at the Saralac's pit, Fortuna returns to the Palace to find that the monks (with most of Jabba's people gone to the rebel
    execution) have taken the full Palace back over.

    He tries to reinstall himself as the new being in charge, but the monks
    seal him up in the throne room. He had been plotting with them to
    overthrow Jabba, and then plotting on his own to seize total control. The monks apparently found out. Ultimately, Bib is turned into a brainwalker, as are a few others of Jabba's crew that either remained at, or returned to, the Palace.

    Being a walker does not stop Fortuna from trying to regain access to the Palace's central computers... some of his secret codes are still valid...
    but, as a walker, he does not have hands or eyes. He teaches himself to manipulate spoons and other "eating implements" with his two front legs.
    The last you hear of him, he is still trying somehow to access the computer without dropping his tool or being found out.

    That is all from "Tales From Jabba's Palace," an official Lucasfilm's book
    that tells background stories of many of the "minor" characters at Jabba's Palace when Luke arrives at the beginning of Return of the Jedi, and follows most of them through the aftermath of Jabba's death.

    If Fortuna was successful at getting into the computer, it is possible that
    he did eventually take over and that he may have even found a body to have
    his brain put back into.

    The book also tells the story of how Bobba escaped the Saralac before being
    too digested to escape.

    The last episode of TBOBF was a massive let down. I would say that only 3/7 episodes were good with the rest being extremely mediocre.

    That is too bad. I think many had high hopes for it, based on how they
    enjoyed The Mandalorian.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Gamgee on Mon Feb 14 19:27:00 2022
    Hello Gamgee!

    ** On Friday 28.01.22 - 20:35, Gamgee wrote to Andeddu:

    What are all of you watching?

    Currently on season 2 of Ozark on Netflix. Outstanding.

    I kinda binged the seven episodes of Ozark S4 P1 the last three
    nights. Amazing. A great continuation of a convoluted twisty
    story.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Tue Feb 15 07:45:00 2022
    Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-

    What are all of you watching?

    Currently on season 2 of Ozark on Netflix. Outstanding.

    I kinda binged the seven episodes of Ozark S4 P1 the last three
    nights. Amazing. A great continuation of a convoluted twisty
    story.

    Yes, it's been very enjoyable, with some unexpected twists. I'm now
    finished to the same point with it as you are.

    Any idea when S4 P2 is due out?



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Gamgee on Tue Feb 15 18:17:00 2022
    Hello Gamgee!

    ** On Tuesday 15.02.22 - 07:45, Gamgee wrote to Ogg:

    Yes, it's been very enjoyable, with some unexpected twists. I'm now finished to the same point with it as you are.

    Any idea when S4 P2 is due out?

    Not really. Even Jason Bateman (as one of the Executive
    Producers) ..just states "Sometime very soon."

    If he wants the show to qualify as a contender for one of the
    tv/film awards, it has to be released on or before May
    sometime.

    The meetup between Javi and Ruth ought to be pretty intense.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Wed Feb 16 07:29:00 2022
    Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Yes, it's been very enjoyable, with some unexpected twists. I'm now finished to the same point with it as you are.

    Any idea when S4 P2 is due out?

    Not really. Even Jason Bateman (as one of the Executive
    Producers) ..just states "Sometime very soon."

    Okay, that's encouraging, at least.

    If he wants the show to qualify as a contender for one of the
    tv/film awards, it has to be released on or before May
    sometime.

    Ahhh, that should help, then.

    The meetup between Javi and Ruth ought to be pretty intense.

    Indeed. My money's on Ruth. ;-)


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Fri Feb 18 18:46:17 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Mon Feb 14 2022 05:06 pm

    After watching Episode IX, I am not even sure Disney considered Episode VI canon!

    Maybe not! That really would not surprise me. People thought that JJ Abrams ruined the prequels... I don't think they were ready for what Disney might have had in mind.

    Lucas mentioned many times in interviews that Anakin/Vader is The Chosen One who would being balance to the force. Abrams bringing back Palpatine and making him even more powerful and in control of a seperate line of the Empire from the First Order and subsequently having Rey kill him makes a mockery of the entire series. It seems like Disney has retconned the previous movies and landed Rey with the mantle of The Chosen One.

    I had heard that, in TBOBF, Bobba Fett supposedly dethrowned Bib Fortuna before taking over Jabba's palace. If that is not the case, then maybe
    they did retain some of the litterary canon. In one of the books, it is

    <SNIP>

    Disney have retconned that as, if you recall The Mandalorian S2 finale, Boba Fett shoots him in the face whilst he is on the throne and usurps him as the Daimyo.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Sat Feb 19 09:46:00 2022
    Disney have retconned that as, if you recall The Mandalorian S2 finale, Boba Fett shoots him in the face whilst he is on the throne and usurps him as the Daimyo.

    Ahh, so it happened in that show. I unfortunately don't have Disney+ so I
    have missed a lot of their retconning. Maybe that is a good thing. :)


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 19:42:14 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Tue Feb 22 2022 10:50 pm

    Re: TBOBF
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:17 pm

    i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.

    Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than the O in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out show after show to se what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.


    The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.

    The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.

    The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Dark Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fast and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Wed Feb 23 23:29:45 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Tue Feb 22 2022 11:19 pm

    i'm talking about everything he did starting with fucking with the movies in the 90s to how they are now. at THAT time the original saga was great. the dialog sucked but it wasnt bad thanks to studio intervention and his wife helping out. that's why she got a ton of money in the divorce.

    when lucas had full control, he got real weird and messed up everything. I don't like any of the newer starwars movies. i dont even like the disney movies. they are super super fast and superficial.

    lucas used his starwars stuff sparingly because he was a shut in all those years and decided to build ILM. he also was making a lot of money each year just riding it out.

    it's fitting that he sold to disney because he was like walt disney.

    but the real reason he sold was because he thought the world was going to end in 2012. dude's a delusional nut.

    I quite like the remastered versions of the OT because they were carried out tastefully. Continuity issues such as Jabba the Hut being a human being in Episode IV were also fixed.

    Hahaha, I never heard about Lucas being into astrology and numerology... I guess it's just a Hollywood thing.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Wed Feb 23 18:59:11 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:42 pm

    The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.

    The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.

    The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Dark Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fast and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.

    I had the same thoughts. The explanation and reton with the midichlorians seemed weird, and the prequels generally seemed to have a lighter feel to them. I've had the general feeling that people tended to consider the prequel movies more kid-friendly (which actually seemed to start with Return of the Jedi in the original trilogy due to the Ewoks). Although the scenes in Revenge of the Sith with Anakin burning and then getting his Darth Vader suit felt fairly grim.

    When the Star Wars 1-6 set was first released on blu-ray (around 2011 or 2012), I bought a set. But I'm actually not sure if I'm interested in owning that set anymore and have considered selling it. I've seen 4K releases of the original trilogy now, but last I checked, they were around $25-$30 apiece, which seemed a little steep.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thu Feb 24 02:28:07 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:42 pm


    The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.


    yeah that was strange.

    and jarjar was bad.


    it was just overthought and had no soul.

    the old one had soul, even though it was full of holes and issues.

    i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big deal.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Thu Feb 24 02:29:37 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Feb 23 2022 05:29 pm


    I quite like the remastered versions of the OT because they were carried out tastefully. Continuity issues such as Jabba the Hut being a human being in Episode IV were also fixed.

    Hahaha, I never heard about Lucas being into astrology and numerology... I guess it's just a Hollywood thing.


    go look up seth rogan talkling about lucas.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Arelor on Thu Feb 24 22:48:48 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:42 pm

    The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.

    The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.

    The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Dark Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fast and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.

    The plot was far more complex in the prequel trilogy. The collapse of the Republic and the destruction of what was for the creation of what must be was so clever and true to life from a historical standpoint. There are weak points such as the Padme/Anakin romance cringe fest along with Jar Jar Binks, etc... but the story on the whole was somewhat of a masterpiece.

    Watching Palpatine pulling the strings from behind the scenes and controlling both sides of the trade conflict via his secret order of the Sith and thereafter enacting "temporary" emergency measures through the senate by subverting key members of the cabinet was a stroke of genius. Order 66 and the sacking of the Jedi Temple along with the purging of all jedi was downright Machiavellian! By the end of Episode III we're given a glimpse of the transformation of the Republic into the new Empire and the viewer is left scratching their heads over how it all happened.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Thu Feb 24 22:58:24 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Feb 23 2022 08:28 pm

    i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big deal.

    Episodes 7-9 are all special effects with nothing else to offer.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 18:05:00 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Feb 23 2022 12:59 pm

    Re: TBOBF
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:42 pm

    The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.

    The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.

    The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Da Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fa and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think the is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.

    I had the same thoughts. The explanation and reton with the midichlorians s hich actually seemed to start with Return of the Jedi in the original trilog

    When the Star Wars 1-6 set was first released on blu-ray (around 2011 or 201 t last I checked, they were around $25-$30 apiece, which seemed a little ste

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    I hated the midichlorian explanation. That burst the belief that follows
    most systems of faith where all you need to become a force user is to give yourself to the force. Midichlorians made force using an exclusive club.

    Regarding the Jedi being a sect of warrior monks, that did make sense. Attachments to property or people can cloud focus and decision making.Also it makes me laugh at all the fans who had Jedi themed weddings.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thu Feb 24 18:17:00 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Feb 23 2022 08:28 pm

    Re: TBOBF
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:42 pm


    The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems wei to me.


    yeah that was strange.

    and jarjar was bad.


    it was just overthought and had no soul.

    the old one had soul, even though it was full of holes and issues.

    i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big

    midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined
    the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Thu Feb 24 22:38:20 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 04:58 pm

    Re: TBOBF
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Feb 23 2022 08:28 pm

    i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. b deal.

    Episodes 7-9 are all special effects with nothing else to offer.


    Luke having to decide whether to complete his training as a Jedi or save his friends.

    Darth Vader trapped by the dark side and not bothering to try to escape because nobody ever escapes the dark side... or maybe that is an exaggeration.

    The Luke-Leia-Solo chemistry is just better than the ones the main characters in the prequel get (which is not saying much anyway).

    Characters and character development just work better in the originals even if the plot is simplistic adventure IMO.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Fri Feb 25 02:52:48 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 12:17 pm


    i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space.
    big

    midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.


    he could have made it into some brain advancement instead of bugs in the blood. and some people have more than others.

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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBSTEST to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 25 18:03:00 2022
    --- MOONDOG wrote ---
    midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring
    the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.


    The mistake is explaining it at all beyond what Yoda said in Empire.

    I don't know why kids today are so hung up on everything being explained...






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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sat Feb 26 02:05:00 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Feb 24 2022 08:52 pm

    Re: TBOBF
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 12:17 pm


    i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big

    midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring th force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruine the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flo through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.


    he could have made it into some brain advancement instead of bugs in the blo

    It played off more like a genetic attribute rather than side effect or
    residual though, claiming a person can devote their life to the force, and never become something because they lack a Midi count

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to the doctor on Sat Feb 26 02:07:00 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: the doctor to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:03 pm

    --- MOONDOG wrote ---
    midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring
    the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms th are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.


    The mistake is explaining it at all beyond what Yoda said in Empire.

    I don't know why kids today are so hung up on everything being explained...






    I also get the impression Lucas wanted something else other than "I have a feeling about this kid" to be a benchmark of whether Annikin should be
    drafted at such a late age.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Arelor on Sat Feb 26 23:21:16 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: Arelor to Andeddu on Thu Feb 24 2022 04:38 pm

    The Luke-Leia-Solo chemistry is just better than the ones the main characters in the prequel get (which is not saying much anyway).

    Characters and character development just work better in the originals even if the plot is simplistic adventure IMO.

    Agreed. I guess that is what made the OT so special. As much as I liked the prequel characters, I just couldn't anywhere near as good a connection with them. The Episode VII-IX characters I actively disliked.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to the doctor on Sat Feb 26 23:28:45 2022
    Re: TBOBF
    By: the doctor to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:03 pm

    The mistake is explaining it at all beyond what Yoda said in Empire.

    I don't know why kids today are so hung up on everything being explained...

    They almost retconned it in the Disney trilogy after speculation that Rey was a nobody with no special lineage. This was prior to Abrams deciding at the 11th hour that she'd be the grand-daughter of Emperor Palaptine.

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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBSTEST to ANDEDDU on Mon Feb 28 21:47:00 2022
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    Re: TBOBF
    By: the doctor to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:03
    pm

    They almost retconned it in the Disney trilogy after speculation that Rey was a nobody with no special lineage. This was prior to Abrams deciding at the 11th hour that she'd be the grand-daughter of Emperor Palaptine.

    Which was an attempt to wreck what I loved about The Last Jedi.

    I thought it should have a MOSFILM logo at the end. The revolution is for everybody.



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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Andeddu on Fri Mar 25 09:25:30 2022
    On 2/22/22 15:50, Andeddu wrote:
    i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.

    Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than
    the OT in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star
    Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out
    show after show to see what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.

    I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add
    value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it
    flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just
    bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
    and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I
    think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
    too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
    figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through
    the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Sat Mar 26 10:42:00 2022
    I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add
    value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it
    flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just
    bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
    and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I
    think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
    too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
    figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through
    the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).

    The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three
    are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first
    6 or Clone Wars.

    It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.

    I still do want to see Rogue One.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 27 01:16:00 2022
    Re: Re: TBOBF
    By: Dumas Walker to TRACKER1 on Sat Mar 26 2022 10:42 am

    I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
    and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
    too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
    figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).

    The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first 6 or Clone Wars.

    It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.

    I still do want to see Rogue One.


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    Rogue One works well as a stand alone story in the SW universe as well as a pre-cursor to ANH

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sun Mar 27 11:04:00 2022
    I still do want to see Rogue One.

    Rogue One works well as a stand alone story in the SW universe as well as a pre-cursor to ANH

    I have heard that. Shortly after it came out, I had one SW fan (who I
    don't think cared much for 1-3) tell me that someone could watch Rogue One,
    and then the original three, and not really miss anything. As that was Disney's first SW movie, they had high hopes for the future ones.

    I have not kept in touch with them, but wonder if they still feel that way
    or not. :)


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Wed Mar 30 23:42:15 2022
    On 3/26/22 07:42, Dumas Walker wrote:

    The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three
    are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first
    6 or Clone Wars.

    It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.

    I still do want to see Rogue One.

    Rogue One is definitely the best of the recent films... I would consider watching the Clone Wars series as well as the Rebels series. Rogue One
    is far from perfect, but still very good. It's really the only movie
    where Darth Vader actually looks terrifying on screen.
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