For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running a BBS?

I've always enjoyed it as a way to provide a service people like using. I like customizing my BBS and setting things up on it that people want to use. I have also created some BBS add-ons and little software tools that I've shared, which I enjoy. I also like the networked message groups that are available.

At the same time, sometimes I get into a mood where I feel like there are other things that are more important to me, and my attention to my BBS drops a bit. I'm going through some things right now and I feel like my motivation to work on BBS stuff right now isn't what it once was, but I still like keeping my BBS running.

Also, running a BBS is a fairly obscure hobby. It seems there aren't many people these days who know what an old-school BBS is, and they might not totally understand it if you try to explain it to them.

Nightfox

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For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running a BBS?

I'm nucking futs (just kidding) <BG>.

Seriously, I agree with all your points. It's a diversion...the message
areas are enjoyable, and the doorgames keep my mind sharp. Plus, I can
promote it through my other hobbies.

Daryl

... Status quo. Latin for the mess we're in. -Jeve Moorman
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Nightfox wrote to All <=-

For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running
a BBS?

It's a sysop-only message base, so... ;-)

I've always enjoyed it as a way to provide a service people like
using. I like customizing my BBS and setting things up on it
that people want to use. I have also created some BBS add-ons
and little software tools that I've shared, which I enjoy. I
also like the networked message groups that are available.

I have a few regular every-day callers that seem to like how mine is set
up. They do messaging (echomail) and play some door games. I haven't
created any add-ons myself. I do it because I enjoy tweaking things the
way I like, and do a lot of echomail messaging. Also play a couple of
door games every day. I guess I mostly do it because it's challenging
to keep things updated and working properly, and occasionally add new features/content.

At the same time, sometimes I get into a mood where I feel like
there are other things that are more important to me, and my
attention to my BBS drops a bit. I'm going through some things
right now and I feel like my motivation to work on BBS stuff
right now isn't what it once was, but I still like keeping my BBS
running.

Agreed. I go through periods where I just "use" the BBS and don't have
as much motivation to upgrade/improve it. Seems to run in cycles.

Also, running a BBS is a fairly obscure hobby. It seems there
aren't many people these days who know what an old-school BBS is,
and they might not totally understand it if you try to explain it
to them.

Absolutely. I've tried to show some people how it looks and works, and
mostly they go..."meh". I think if a person didn't do this stuff back
when it was more popular, like in the 90's or so, they don't know about
it, and generally don't care much. It's not as "exciting" to them as
the graphical web/internet and I've had folks tell me it's too
old-fashioned. Seems it's either they love it or don't care at all, not
much middle ground.

I enjoy it enough to keep doing it, if only for myself. :-)



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Ulcers

Nightfox wrote:

For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running a BBS?

To bne honest...nothing really. I could drop it tomorrow and it wouldn't
bother me. Probably give me more free time to do other stuff that I'd rather
be doing :)

I've always enjoyed it as a way to provide a service people like using. I like customizing my BBS and setting things up on it that people want to use. I have also created some BBS add-ons and little software tools that I've shared, which I enjoy. I also like the networked message groups that are available.

I suck at graphics. That's the main reason it took me to years to do my own menus. I do like providing all the messages areas to people. Shame nobody actually posts in them. I do appreciate your add-ins. They really enhance my BBS.

At the same time, sometimes I get into a mood where I feel like there are other things that are more important to me, and my attention to my BBS drops a bit. I'm going through some things right now and I feel like my motivation to work on BBS stuff right now isn't what it once was, but I still like keeping my BBS running.

You can't always be a sysop. Let it run itself for a while. Trust me, live
will go on if it chokes on its own code for a few days or a week.

Also, running a BBS is a fairly obscure hobby. It seems there aren't many people these days who know what an old-school BBS is, and they might not totally understand it if you try to explain it to them.

These days people want pointy and clicky with lots of pretty graphics and instant feedback and gratification. Who has time to wait 3 days for an answer to netmail.

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Nightfox to All on Tue Apr 06 2021 12:45 pm

For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running a BBS?

My main reason for getting mine started was so my buddy and I could play Usurper and LORD again. Once I got those running, I kept finding more interesting games to add, and gradually customizing more little things here and there.

While he and I no longer play these games as much as when I first got them up set up, I still keep the board running for the few regulars who do call every day to play the games they like, and for the occasional new user who drops in, checks the board out, and leaves a very polite 'thank you' email for keeping it running.
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I enjoy it enough to keep doing it, if only for myself. :-)

I feel the same way.

Daryl

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Re: What do you get out of ru
By: Daryl Stout to Nightfox on Tue Apr 06 2021 09:05 pm

Seriously, I agree with all your points. It's a diversion...the message areas are enjoyable, and the doorgames keep my mind sharp. Plus, I can promote it through my other hobbies.

There have been times when I've been really into it (maybe as I'm an introvert), but other times when I'm not so into it and it doesn't seem very important to me for a little while.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Nelgin to Nightfox on Wed Apr 07 2021 03:53 am

nobody actually posts in them. I do appreciate your add-ins. They really enhance my BBS.

Thanks - I'm glad you find them useful.

Nightfox

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Nightfox to All on Tue Apr 06 2021 12:45 pm

For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running a BBS?

In all honesty, I keep running it because I enjoy the community aspect of it, the games, message areas, and just the general hobby of it.

I've always enjoyed it as a way to provide a service people like using. I like customizing my BBS and setting things up on it that people want to use. I have also created some BBS add-ons and little software tools that I've shared, which I enjoy. I also like the networked message groups that are available.

When I was younger and not busy, spending the time to customize the BBS was fun, enjoyable, and gave me the ability to experiment and learn. Now, trying to find the time to customize it to where I want, it seems to take forever. I can't seem to find "what works" versus "what is necessary". The default Synchronet "out of the box" experience is pretty good but I'd love to take it to the next level (plus, this whole recovery from surgery has been hell and my ability to stay focused has been minimal).

At the same time, sometimes I get into a mood where I feel like there are other things that are more important to me, and my attention to my BBS drops a bit. I'm going through some things right now and I feel like my motivation to work on BBS stuff right now isn't what it once was, but I still like keeping my BBS running.

To my previous paragraph, right now I focus on playing games and reading / writing messages. When my motivation returns and the ability to actually focus, I might take the time to evolve it.

Also, running a BBS is a fairly obscure hobby. It seems there aren't many people these days who know what an old-school BBS is, and they might not totally understand it if you try to explain it to them.

I think that's what makes it fun. The obscure nature of BBSing today means we have a different quality of user. It's no longer everyone with a modem but now a select group of people who want to communicate, openly, without the censorship and annoyances of current social media.

Brian Klauss <-> Dream Master
Caught in a Dream | caughtinadream.com a Synchronet BBS

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Dream Master to Nightfox on Wed Apr 07 2021 04:42 pm

Also, running a BBS is a fairly obscure hobby. It seems there aren't
many people these days who know what an old-school BBS is, and they
might not totally understand it if you try to explain it to them.

I think that's what makes it fun. The obscure nature of BBSing today means we have a different quality of user. It's no longer everyone with a modem but now a select group of people who want to communicate, openly, without the censorship and annoyances of current social media.

Sometimes I think it can be difficult to explain to a significant other. Some people could also be a bit distrusting and wonder who you're talking to online.

Nightfox

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Nightfox to All on Tue Apr 06 2021 12:45 pm

For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running a BBS?

I've always enjoyed it as a way to provide a service people like using. I like customizing my BBS and setting things up on it that people want to use. I have also created some BBS add-ons and little software tools that I've shared, which I enjoy. I also like the networked message groups that are available.

It's the same for me. I enjoy poking my head in from time to time to see what's going on, but I've discovered a lot of other hobbies over the last couple years that grab my attention (Ham Radio is a big one), so I'll go weeks without checking my board, sometimes.

I get a lot of messages from users thanking me for having the BBS up, and that really just makes it worth it.

At the same time, sometimes I get into a mood where I feel like there are other things that are more important to me, and my attention to my BBS drops a bit. I'm going through some things right now and I feel like my motivation to work on BBS stuff right now isn't what it once was, but I still like keeping my BBS running.

Yep, I think this is my first check-in on my BBS in 10 days. I had some spare time while waiting for a maintenance event to start at work, and the HF bands suck right now, so BBS it is! Also, the video game I was playing got boring. :)

Also, running a BBS is a fairly obscure hobby. It seems there aren't many people these days who know what an old-school BBS is, and they might not totally understand it if you try to explain it to them.

That doesn't stop me from trying, though! I enjoy the wierd looks on peoples faces when I do! :)

DaiTengu

... Behind every successful man is an astonished mother-in-law.

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Wed Apr 07 2021 07:28 pm

I think that's what makes it fun. The obscure nature of BBSing today means we have a different quality of user. It's no longer everyone with a modem but now a select group of people who want to communicate, openly, without the censorship and annoyances of current social media.

Sometimes I think it can be difficult to explain to a significant other. Some people could also be a bit distrusting and wonder who you're talking to online.

This is where it makes it easy for me... my wife and I met on a BBS I worked for back in 1994. I explained what I was doing, she was 100% cool with it.

Brian Klauss <-> Dream Master
Caught in a Dream | caughtinadream.com a Synchronet BBS

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Dream Master to Nightfox on Wed Apr 07 2021 11:21 pm

Sometimes I think it can be difficult to explain to a significant
other. Some people could also be a bit distrusting and wonder who
you're talking to online.

This is where it makes it easy for me... my wife and I met on a BBS I worked for back in 1994. I explained what I was doing, she was 100% cool with it.

That's cool. Seems like a fairly rare case. :)

Nightfox

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Nightfox to All on Tue Apr 06 2021 12:45 pm

For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running a BBS?

Well, for me, it's the thrill of keeping the old school programs alive, and having people login to play the games, and see what networking was in the old days. Back in the 80's and 90's, we didn't have facebook, twitter, and the other 100 or so networks. What we had was FidoNet, and dozens of other small networks that kept people in touch with each other.

As a sysop in the 90's, I got to know my users, and was interactive with them, playing games, internode chats, messageing each other. It was a constant struggle, to stay ahead with the newest software, but it's what we did, and we had fun doing it.

This hobby still excites me, and I try my best to keep 3 BBS's running, and operating well, and fun for the users. I run one New School system, Synchronet, and two Old School systems, GAP and RemoteAccess. I also introduced last year, Odin's Maze, A game server with over 200 registered games for people to play online. I feeling for the game server was to get more BBS's involved in playing the games, so the users had some compition, and bake the old games more enjoyable.

I guess to sum it up, I have always had some form of a bbs up and running since 1991, and I just can't let that part of me go. The hobby does not have the closeness it once had where sysops got togeather and swapped stories with each other, but it's still has it rewards. As long as I can make one person happy, I will continue to run a BBS.


SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Thu Apr 08 2021 08:20 am

This is where it makes it easy for me... my wife and I met on a BBS
I worked for back in 1994. I explained what I was doing, she was
100% cool with it.

That's cool. Seems like a fairly rare case. :)

It is rare. I've posted this before. BBSing was a big part of my divorce. On the plus side it helped my keep my sanity during hard times. I love this BBS shit and will be using them till I kick the bucket. :-)

... The older you get, the more important is is not to act your age.

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As a sysop in the 90's, I got to know my users, and was interactive
with them, playing games, internode chats, messageing each other. It
was a constant struggle, to stay ahead with the newest software, but
it's what we did, and we had fun doing it.

I liked the face to face meetings...where you got to put a face to
other local users. It was on a BBS from the local college where I met
the woman who become my Co-Sysop, and eventually my wife (we were literally "Married With Modem"). It's coming up on 14 years since her death, and I'm keeping the BBS going in her memory.

Daryl

... Calculus And Alcohol Don't Mix -- Please Don't Drink And Derive.
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For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running a BBS?

It's a way for me to keep connected with and reminded of how older
software and networking approaches handled things. That can be both a
real eye opener and helper when trying to figure things out on modern
projects rather than just assuming the latest libraries/protocols are inherently the best approach. Have you seen how bloated and slow even
basic web pages and programs are becoming?

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For the BBS sysops out there, what motivates you to keep running a BBS?

Nightfox

Personally, I have mixed feelings about running a BBS; some days I am motivated to customize menus and JS mods for the board; other days I could care less if it all blew up and disappeared :-)

I still get a small sense of satisfaction when I have a new user Validate their account with emailval and actually use the BBS, even just once, and I feel more of a sense of satisfaction when users make return visits, but that is secondary, as I run the BBS for me. I've had some form of BBS running since 1995, especially Synchronet BBS since 2001. From 2001 - 2019 the main purpose of my BBS was as an SMTP/POP3 server for my business. Now I run it mainly for the heat the PCs put out to keep my toes warm while I edit the wiki with misinformation on cold winter days :-P

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Thu Apr 08 2021 04:17 pm

and operating well, and fun for the users. I run one New School system, Synchronet, and two Old School systems, GAP and RemoteAccess. I also

RemoteAccess is what I ran in the 90s. I liked it. I have good memories from those days.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Underminer to Nightfox on Fri Apr 09 2021 07:56 am

inherently the best approach. Have you seen how bloated and slow even basic web pages and programs are becoming?

Web sites & browsers have seemed a bit bloated for a while now.

Nightfox

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C.G.,

I to liked the face to face interactions. Once a year, I used to have a bbs kegger at the house, and a lot of the users came. I love putting a face to a name. It's so anonomus now, hell, users don't want to give a real name, yet alone a phone numer and address. Those days are long
gone

Putting faces to names also helps promote accountability for one's messages.

literally "Married With Modem"). It's coming up on 14 years since her death, and I'm keeping the BBS going in her memory.

That's a very good reason to keep the bbs going :)

She and I competed in several doorgames. While she was a great winner, she sure was a sore loser. <G>

--- Old farts never die! They just smell that way...

If you can smell the fart, you're not social distancing enough. <G>

Daryl

... I have disposable income. I dispose of it awfully fast.
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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Fri Apr 09 2021 03:56 pm

RemoteAccess is what I ran in the 90s. I liked it. I have good
memories from those days.

It still holds it's own even after all these years.

I imagine.
When I decided to set up a BBS again in 2007, initially I had started with EleBBS, which is a modern clone of RemoteAccess (EleBBS runs on 32-bit Windows; I don't remember if EleBBS supports other platforms). I saw an issue where EleBBS wasn't exiting out to run events - I thought that might have been a bug, so I looked elsewhere and found Synchronet.

Events may work differently in EleBBS than I expected. Using EleBBS would have been really retro for me since it looked like RemoteAccess, which I used to use.

Nightfox

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On 04-09-21 08:20, Nightfox wrote to DesotoFireflite <=-

RemoteAccess is what I ran in the 90s. I liked it. I have good
memories from those days.

I liked RA too, that's whyat I ran in the 90s as well.


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Re: What do you get out of ru
By: Daryl Stout to DesotoFireflite on Fri Apr 09 2021 07:34 pm

That's a very good reason to keep the bbs going :)

She and I competed in several doorgames. While she was a great winner, she sure was a sore loser. <G>

I think we all tend to be sore losers. I wish I would have known baoth of you back then, it would have been worth a trip out that way to talk and relax

--- Old farts never die! They just smell that way...

If you can smell the fart, you're not social distancing enough. <G>

After chile, there is no such thing as social distancing with me.. hehehe

SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallabbs.com
Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

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Re: What do you get out of running a BBS?
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Fri Apr 09 2021 09:40 pm

I imagine.
When I decided to set up a BBS again in 2007, initially I had started with EleBBS, which is a modern clone of RemoteAccess (EleBBS runs on 32-bit Windows; I don't remember if EleBBS supports other platforms). I saw an issue where EleBBS wasn't exiting out to run events - I thought that might have been a bug, so I looked elsewhere and found Synchronet.

Events may work differently in EleBBS than I expected. Using EleBBS would have been really retro for me since it looked like RemoteAccess, which I used to use.

I really wish he would have continued with his elebbs project as it was going in the right direction. I always had trouble with the event processor also, but I just let a outside event processer handle it. Ultamatly, I returned to RA, as it was more stable.

I really miss GAP, as I was a beta tester, and it was nice getting the new copies while everyone else was using the old ones :) I'm still running a support board since Kenny Died trying to keep it alive.

SBBS is my main system, and I'm very happy with it, but the old me prefers my GAP and RA, as thats what I cut my teeth with in the old days. I'm just glad people like Mike made the program Netfoss and net2bbs, so they can still be enjoyed still today.

it's nice seeing the old stories here of what keeps this hobby alive.

SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallabbs.com
Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

--- Constipation is the thief of time. Diarrhoea waits for no man.
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C.G.,

I think we all tend to be sore losers. I wish I would have known baoth
of you back then, it would have been worth a trip out that way to talk
and relax

She had poor eyesight, but she'd spot typos in bulletins and configuration files on the first try!!

If you can smell the fart, you're not social distancing enough. <G>

After chile, there is no such thing as social distancing with me..

There was a commercial awhile back, I want to say from Tractor Supply Company, but I'm not sure.

The family is asking The Good Lord to bless the food they are about
to partake in, and thanking Him for what He has provided. The family
dog patiently waits under the table while they pray.

As soon as they say "Amen!", the dog bounds out of the kitchen, and
heads upstairs into the bedroom. He opens the chest of drawers, and
starts digging like mad. He doesn't find what he wants in the first
few drawers, but he finally comes upon his quarry...military gas masks!!

The dog now has it on, and he runs back downstairs, and takes his
place below the kitchen table.

The menu is baked beans, pinto beans, cabbage, legumes, chili with
and without beans, and all the stuff that causes severe flatulence,
with plenty of methane stench to boot.

The announcer says in the voice over "We have what you need". <G>

It's like a radio commercial for the Swiffer Pet Hair Cleanup.
Some dogs and cats will shed like the dickens. My late wife and I
had smoothie, short haired dachshunds (only one at a time). This
way, they were easier to spot fleas, ticks, chiggers, etc., on...
and easier to clean.

But in the radio commercial, they note at the end of it:

"Swiffer Pet Hair Cleaner...because Shed Happens". <BG>

Daryl

... Of course I'm on topic!! What conference is this??!!
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Re: What do you get out of ru
By: Daryl Stout to DesotoFireflite on Sun Apr 11 2021 09:40 pm

There was a commercial awhile back, I want to say from Tractor Supply Company, but I'm not sure.

Thank you for the great laugh.... still laughing

SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallabbs.com
Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

--- Fartvergnugen: The pleasure of breaking wind.
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Quoting Desotofireflite to Nightfox <=-

Subject: What do you get out of running a BBS?

I really miss GAP, as I was a beta tester, and it was nice getting the
new copies while everyone else was using the old ones :) I'm still
running a support board since Kenny Died trying to keep it alive.

SBBS is my main system, and I'm very happy with it, but the old me
prefers my GAP and RA, as thats what I cut my teeth with in the old
days. I'm just glad people like Mike made the program Netfoss and
net2bbs, so they can still be enjoyed still today.

I didn't know Kenny Gardner was dead. Sad. :-(
I enjoyed reading David Wolfe's books about GAP-BBS and set up my
first BBS. It worked, but my poor technical knowledge discouraged
me at the time. On 2016 i return with Synchronet and i love it.

it's nice seeing the old stories here of what keeps this hobby alive.

Yes! :-))


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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: Mauro Veiga to DESOTOFIREFLITE on Mon Apr 12 2021 10:52 am

I didn't know Kenny Gardner was dead. Sad. :-(
I enjoyed reading David Wolfe's books about GAP-BBS and set up my
first BBS. It worked, but my poor technical knowledge discouraged
me at the time. On 2016 i return with Synchronet and i love it.

Yes, it's been about 2 years now. We were actually working on GAP to be telnet aware built in. I got to know him very well. He was a good friend, and I will miss him.

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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: DesotoFireflite to Mauro Veiga on Mon Apr 12 2021 02:42 pm

Yes, it's been about 2 years now. We were actually working on GAP to be telnet aware built in. I got to know him very well. He was a good friend, and I will miss him.

what is that even?
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I didn't know Kenny Gardner was dead. Sad. :-(
I enjoyed reading David Wolfe's books about GAP-BBS and set up my
first BBS. It worked, but my poor technical knowledge discouraged
me at the time. On 2016 i return with Synchronet and i love it.

Yes, it's been about 2 years now. We were actually working on GAP to
be telnet aware built in. I got to know him very well. He was a good friend, and I will miss him.

Sad. My sincere condolences. :-(
I remember the GAP-BBS website. It was great.

At the time I used GAP I remember that found the internal QWK poor
in resources and was looking for a compatible QWK door. I only
found MAINMAIL but it was no longer possible to register or it was
expensive, I don't remember. There was another compatible QWK door?

You still have backup of the GAP installation. In the future, I'll
test the GAP with ECHODOOR that you mentioned.


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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: DesotoFireflite to Mauro Veiga on Mon Apr 12 2021 02:42 pm

Yes, it's been about 2 years now. We were actually working on GAP to be telnet aware built in. I got to know him very well. He was a good friend, and I will miss him.

what is that even?

About Kenny Gardner, developer of GAP-BBS.


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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: Mauro Veiga to MRO on Tue Apr 13 2021 12:40 pm

telnet aware built in. I got to know him very well. He was a good friend, and I will miss him.

what is that even?

About Kenny Gardner, developer of GAP-BBS.

"telnet aware" built in
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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Tue Apr 13 2021 02:58 am

Yes, it's been about 2 years now. We were actually working on GAP to
be telnet aware built in. I got to know him very well. He was a good
friend, and I will miss him.

what is that even?

I assume you are asking what GAP is? Yes

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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: Mauro Veiga to DESOTOFIREFLITE on Tue Apr 13 2021 12:39 pm

Sad. My sincere condolences. :-(
I remember the GAP-BBS website. It was great.
You still have backup of the GAP installation. In the future, I'll
test the GAP with ECHODOOR that you mentioned.

Yes, I have it all. You will have to install 6.6 first, then update to 6.7 99 node. Just yell when you are ready, or log into my sbbs system by telnet, and choose 2 for GAPm all the files are there, or on my website also

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Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: MRO to Mauro Veiga on Tue Apr 13 2021 02:55 pm

what is that even?

"telnet aware" built in

All I meant, was he was planning on taking out the comm routines, and putting in telnet so it didn't rely on telnet front ends.

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Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallabbs.com
Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

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Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Tue Apr 13 2021 05:59 pm

Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: MRO to Mauro Veiga on Tue Apr 13 2021 02:55 pm

what is that even?

"telnet aware" built in

All I meant, was he was planning on taking out the comm routines, and putting in telnet so it didn't rely on telnet front ends.

Ah, so he was porting (from MS-DOS) to a modern OS or had he already done that part?
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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Tue Apr 13 2021 04:02 pm

Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Tue Apr 13 2021 02:58 am

Yes, it's been about 2 years now. We were actually working on GAP to
be telnet aware built in. I got to know him very well. He was a good
friend, and I will miss him.

what is that even?

I assume you are asking what GAP is? Yes

no.

what do you mean 'telnet aware built in'
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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Tue Apr 13 2021 05:59 pm

Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: MRO to Mauro Veiga on Tue Apr 13 2021 02:55 pm

what is that even?

"telnet aware" built in

All I meant, was he was planning on taking out the comm routines, and putting in telnet so it didn't rely on telnet front ends.

SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallabbs.com

okay that's totally different and wasnt likely to happen.

that's adding a telnet server.
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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Tue Apr 13 2021 08:33 pm

All I meant, was he was planning on taking out the comm routines, and putting in telnet so it didn't rely on telnet front ends.

Ah, so he was porting (from MS-DOS) to a modern OS or had he already done that part?

he was probably going to do like wwiv did
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Quoting Desotofireflite to Mauro Veiga <=-

Sad. My sincere condolences. :-(
I remember the GAP-BBS website. It was great.
You still have backup of the GAP installation. In the future, I'll
test the GAP with ECHODOOR that you mentioned.

Yes, I have it all. You will have to install 6.6 first, then update to
6.7 99 node. Just yell when you are ready, or log into my sbbs system
by telnet, and choose 2 for GAPm all the files are there, or on my
website also

I downloaded all. Thanks, Desotofireflite. :-))


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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Tue Apr 13 2021 08:33 pm

All I meant, was he was planning on taking out the comm routines, and
putting in telnet so it didn't rely on telnet front ends.

Ah, so he was porting (from MS-DOS) to a modern OS or had he already done that part? --

He was in the process of switching everything to windows, which is done, and the next step was working on the telnet part of it, and removing the comm routines, which was in the very early stages. Version 6.7 is compiled for windows 10 in mind, and is stable, but he never got to complete the next step before he passed. I hope that answered your question.

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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: DesotoFireflite to Digital Man on Wed Apr 14 2021 03:24 pm

Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Tue Apr 13 2021 08:33 pm

All I meant, was he was planning on taking out the comm routines, and
putting in telnet so it didn't rely on telnet front ends.

Ah, so he was porting (from MS-DOS) to a modern OS or had he already done that part? --

He was in the process of switching everything to windows, which is done, and the next step was working on the telnet part of it, and removing the comm routines, which was in the very early stages. Version 6.7 is compiled for windows 10 in mind, and is stable, but he never got to complete the next step before he passed. I hope that answered your question.

Yup. Did he open source it? It'd be nice if he lived on through his program.
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Re: Re: What do you get out o
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Wed Apr 14 2021 02:03 pm

Yup. Did he open source it? It'd be nice if he lived on through his program. --

No, as I understand, he was very protective of the software, and did not wish to release the source. I respect his wishes, and only discussed it once with relitives, and the answer was the same.

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