• ANSI Ad for DoveNet?

    From JaXson@VERT/RUINS to All on Thu May 12 10:01:00 2022
    Hi all,

    Curious to know if someone has an ANSI Affiliate Advertisement for DoveNet as is commonly found in FTN's? If not, would it be ok if I request from a couple of ANSI groups on Discord? I like to have each FTN/QWK's ANSI load when a user jumps to the FTN/QWK's message group, along with any posting rules that may differ from the rest (such as FidoNet requiring real names ..)

    I have one for weednet, not DevNet, and not DoveNet .. I'd appreciate any pointing in the right direction.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to JaXson on Thu May 12 10:06:15 2022
    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: JaXson to All on Thu May 12 2022 10:01 am

    Hi all,

    Curious to know if someone has an ANSI Affiliate Advertisement for DoveNet as is commonly found in FTN's?

    I don't recall there ever being an "official ANSI" for DOVE-Net. Might have been some created/published ad-hoc at one time or another however (likely long ago). Would probably be pretty hard to find if they were.

    If not, would it be ok if I request from a
    couple of ANSI groups on Discord? I like to have each FTN/QWK's ANSI load when a user jumps to the FTN/QWK's message group, along with any posting rules that may differ from the rest (such as FidoNet requiring real names ..)

    I have one for weednet, not DevNet, and not DoveNet .. I'd appreciate any pointing in the right direction.

    It's a fine idea. Hopefully someone artistic offers something up?

    Also FYI: FidoNet doesn't require real names, just most of its public echoes carry a "real name" policy. The network itself has no such policy.
    --
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  • From Xerxes@VERT/KN6Q to Digital Man on Thu May 12 13:31:00 2022
    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Digital Man to JaXson on Thu May 12 2022 10:06 am

    Also FYI: FidoNet doesn't require real names, just most of its public echoes carry a "real name" policy. The network itself has no such policy.

    Fun to know I've had this wrong for 30 years, lol ---------------------------------------------------------
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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to Xerxes on Fri May 13 11:16:35 2022
    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Xerxes to Digital Man on Thu May 12 2022 01:31 pm

    Also FYI: FidoNet doesn't require real names, just most of its
    public echoes carry a "real name" policy. The network itself has no
    such policy.

    Fun to know I've had this wrong for 30 years, lol

    I was about to say the same thing. I could have sworn the policy document made it clear that real names were mandatory, but now I can find no such mention of it one way or the other as I read through it again.

    Mandela effect?

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  • From Xerxes@VERT/KN6Q to Codefenix on Fri May 13 11:56:00 2022
    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Codefenix to Xerxes on Fri May 13 2022 11:16 am


    Also FYI: FidoNet doesn't require real names, just most of its
    public echoes carry a "real name" policy. The network itself has no
    such policy.

    Fun to know I've had this wrong for 30 years, lol

    I was about to say the same thing. I could have sworn the policy document made it clear that real names were mandatory, but now I can find no such mention of it one way or the other as I read through it again.

    Mandela effect?

    I think I just assumed based on what I saw. The policy document hasn't changed in ages, I doubt I read it closely enough back in the day. More like "Everyone is using real names? That must be the rule." Because, in particular back then, I'd always prefer to use my handle if possible.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Xerxes on Fri May 13 10:36:57 2022
    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Xerxes to Codefenix on Fri May 13 2022 11:56 am

    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Codefenix to Xerxes on Fri May 13 2022 11:16 am


    Also FYI: FidoNet doesn't require real names, just most of its
    public echoes carry a "real name" policy. The network itself has no
    such policy.

    Fun to know I've had this wrong for 30 years, lol

    I was about to say the same thing. I could have sworn the policy document made it clear that real names were mandatory, but now I can find no such mention of it one way or the other as I read through it again.

    Mandela effect?

    I think I just assumed based on what I saw. The policy document hasn't changed in ages, I doubt I read it closely enough back in the day. More like "Everyone is using real names? That must be the rule." Because, in particular back then, I'd always prefer to use my handle if possible.

    It's a common misconception. This SYNCHRONET and other Synchronet-related echoes, for example, have no such rule. The use of aliases is fine in some echoes.
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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Fri May 13 19:16:06 2022
    On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:36:57 -0700
    "Digital Man" <digital.man@VERT> wrote:


    It's a common misconception. This SYNCHRONET and other
    Synchronet-related echoes, for example, have no such rule. The use of
    aliases is fine in some echoes.

    Rather than try and keep up with which are which, I just force all my
    FTN networks to use real name. I can't be bothered with trying to pick
    through and figure which are which.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Codefenix on Fri May 13 17:46:53 2022
    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Codefenix to Xerxes on Fri May 13 2022 11:16 am


    Fun to know I've had this wrong for 30 years, lol

    I was about to say the same thing. I could have sworn the policy document made it clear that real names were mandatory, but now I can find no such mention of it one way or the other as I read through it again.



    no it's only certain echos. you can sign your name
    i always get bugged about it when i post.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nelgin on Sat May 14 09:32:16 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Nelgin to All on Fri May 13 2022 07:16 pm


    Rather than try and keep up with which are which, I just force all my
    FTN networks to use real name. I can't be bothered with trying to pick through and figure which are which.


    it's probably just 2 echos.

    if you got it wrong ward will certainly cry about it.
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  • From JaXson@VERT/RUINS to Digital Man on Mon May 30 14:24:00 2022
    I don't recall there ever being an "official ANSI" for DOVE-Net. Might have been some created/published ad-hoc at one time or another however (likely long ago). Would probably be pretty hard to find if they were.

    I'll search around, and if I find one, send it your way. Thanks for the reply!

    It's a fine idea. Hopefully someone artistic offers something up?

    There are two groups that have a request section within their Discord Groups. I'm just now getting to my emails, I'll fire off a request prior to forgetting :)

    Also FYI: FidoNet doesn't require real names, just most of its public echoes carry a "real name" policy. The network itself has no such policy.

    When I had FidoNet, I just set all echos to real name. It seemed a bit pointless these days considering most/some use a fake real names. With all other FTN's and QWK networks I've seen, I just set all echos to alias allowed. However this is great info to know if I decide to pick back up Fido :)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to JaXson on Mon May 30 17:19:32 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: JaXson to Digital Man on Mon May 30 2022 02:24 pm

    When I had FidoNet, I just set all echos to real name. It seemed a bit pointless these days considering most/some use a fake real names. With all other FTN's and QWK networks I've seen, I just set all echos to alias

    people can't pronounce my real name so i've been using a fake name for like 26 years.
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  • From JaXson@VERT/RUINS to MRO on Wed Jun 1 16:14:00 2022

    people can't pronounce my real name so i've been using a fake name for like 26 years.

    People must not be trying hard enough. I've been using fake names since the C64 BBS'ing days of the 80's, because I can :) Plus we were mostly a bunch of Pirates back in the day .. the wooden leg variety of course ;)

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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to JaXson on Sun Oct 30 19:45:29 2022
    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: JaXson to All on Thu May 12 2022 10:01 am


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Codefenix on Sun Oct 30 16:53:22 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Codefenix to JaXson on Sun Oct 30 2022 02:45 pm

    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: JaXson to All on Thu May 12 2022 10:01 am

    You have the skillz! :-)
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Codefenix on Sun Oct 30 21:23:34 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Codefenix to JaXson on Sun Oct 30 2022 02:45 pm

    Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: JaXson to All on Thu May 12 2022 10:01 am




    that looks like you stole it from a mystic bbs
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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Mon Oct 31 14:05:32 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: MRO to Codefenix on Sun Oct 30 2022 04:23 pm

    that looks like you stole it from a mystic bbs

    I'll grant you that it's blue lettering surrounded by gray, because I tend to use those colors a lot in my own logos & menus. Aside from that, I don't see how it resembles the Mystic.

    Maybe I'll recolor the lettering white/light gray surrounded by blue, keeping it more inline with the Sync logo.

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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to all on Mon Oct 31 18:31:29 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Codefenix to MRO on Mon Oct 31 2022 09:05 am


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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to All on Mon Oct 31 18:32:18 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Codefenix to all on Mon Oct 31 2022 01:31 pm

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Codefenix on Mon Oct 31 23:20:57 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Codefenix to All on Mon Oct 31 2022 01:32 pm

    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: Codefenix to all on Mon Oct 31 2022 01:31 pm

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    i think a colored asskey one would be more suitable.
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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Tue Nov 1 14:56:50 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: MRO to Codefenix on Mon Oct 31 2022 06:20 pm

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Codefenix on Tue Nov 1 22:59:16 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet? (colored ascii)
    By: Codefenix to MRO on Tue Nov 01 2022 09:56 am

    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet?
    By: MRO to Codefenix on Mon Oct 31 2022 06:20 pm
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    that's a good one, i like that.
    when i said asskey i was thinking more ami-x style or whatever they call it. spidy style. but this is good.
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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Fri Nov 4 23:45:42 2022
    Re: Re: ANSI Ad for DoveNet? (colored ascii)
    By: MRO to Codefenix on Tue Nov 01 2022 05:59 pm

    when i said asskey i was thinking more ami-x style or whatever they call it. spidy style. but this is good.

    Something on this order?
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    But with color?

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