Hello.

How do I setup the web interface to not use telnet but have folks use a much safer way of connecting such as SSH, and/or Rlogin.

Thanks.
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Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Mikesla to All on Sat Sep 10 2022 07:25 pm

How do I setup the web interface to not use telnet but have folks use a much safer way of connecting such as SSH, and/or Rlogin.

I'm not sure if fTelnet can use those other protocols - but I don't think RLogin is any safer than telnet. With RLogin, everything is still passed in the clear. SSH is the only one that would encrypt anything.

Nightfox

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Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Nightfox to Mikesla on Sat Sep 10 2022 04:32 pm

Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Mikesla to All on Sat Sep 10 2022 07:25 pm

How do I setup the web interface to not use telnet but have folks use a much safer way of connecting such as SSH, and/or Rlogin.

I'm not sure if fTelnet can use those other protocols - but I don't think RLogin is any safer than telnet. With RLogin, everything is still passed in the clear. SSH is the only one that would encrypt anything.

fTelnet uses a websocket (not Telnet) and can do websocket over TLS, very safe. --
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Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Sep 10 2022 04:44 pm

fTelnet uses a websocket (not Telnet) and can do websocket over TLS, very safe.

Ah, that's good to know. It seems that it connects to Synchronet's telnet server though? I thought it was effectively a telnet connection (or RLogin, if you configure it that way).

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Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Sep 10 2022 06:05 pm

Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Sep 10 2022 04:44 pm

fTelnet uses a websocket (not Telnet) and can do websocket over TLS, very safe.

Ah, that's good to know. It seems that it connects to Synchronet's telnet server though? I thought it was effectively a telnet connection (or RLogin, if you configure it that way).

fTelnet connects to a websocket service (e.g. Synchronet's websocketservice.js) which in turn connects to a Telnet or Rlogin server and plays a proxy role for the data.
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Thank You. I thought I would give it a shot. I'm not all that concerned about it but best to see if it could be done.

Cheers, and thanks for the help.

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Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Mikesla to All on Sat Sep 10 2022 07:25 pm

How do I setup the web interface to not use telnet but have folks use a much safer way of connecting such as SSH, and/or Rlogin.

I'm not sure if fTelnet can use those other protocols - but I don't
think RLogin is any safer than telnet. With RLogin, everything is
still passed in the clear. SSH is the only one that would encrypt anything.

Nightfox

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Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Mikesla to Nightfox on Sun Sep 11 2022 12:46 am

Thank You. I thought I would give it a shot. I'm not all that concerned about it but best to see if it could be done.

I was a bit mistaken. fTelnet communicates over websocket, which can use TLS (which is secure) and gets forwarded to Synchronet's telnet service.

Nightfox

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Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Nightfox to Mikesla on Sat Sep 10 2022 16:32:01

How do I setup the web interface to not use telnet but have folks use a much safer way of connecting such as SSH, and/or Rlogin.

I'm not sure if fTelnet can use those other protocols - but I don't think RLogin is any safer than telnet. With RLogin, everything is still passed in the clear. SSH is the only one that would encrypt
anything.

yea rlogin is the same as telnet effectively.. if i remember right, it was originally designed as a "restricted login" (hence the name) to a "restricted shell" (/bin/rsh) so that people could have guest accounts on the university machines and not do anything "silly".

ssh would be the only one to encrypt it.

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On 9/10/22 16:25, Mikesla wrote:

How do I setup the web interface to not use telnet but have folks
use a much safer way of connecting such as SSH, and/or Rlogin.

RLogin isn't safer than Telnet... also, the protocol the user uses is a websocket or secure-websocket connection to the BBS... the "telnet"
connection is local from the websocket server to the BBS.

You can block the telnet port from internet access if you like.
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On 9/10/22 18:05, Nightfox wrote:

fTelnet uses a websocket (not Telnet) and can do websocket over TLS,
very safe.

Ah, that's good to know. It seems that it connects to Synchronet's
telnet server though? I thought it was effectively a telnet
connection (or RLogin, if you configure it that way).

Browser -> sbbs-websocket -> localhost-telnet
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Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Sat Sep 10 2022 09:55 pm

Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Nightfox to Mikesla on Sat Sep 10 2022 16:32:01

How do I setup the web interface to not use telnet but have folks use a much safer way of connecting such as SSH, and/or Rlogin.

I'm not sure if fTelnet can use those other protocols - but I don't think RLogin is any safer than telnet. With RLogin, everything is still passed in the clear. SSH is the only one that would encrypt
anything.

yea rlogin is the same as telnet effectively.. if i remember right, it was originally designed as a "restricted login" (hence the name) to a "restricted shell" (/bin/rsh) so that people could have guest accounts on the university machines and not do anything "silly".

I think the 'r' in rlogin stands for remote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_r-commands#rlogin

ssh would be the only one to encrypt it.

There are terminal/shell protocols that use TLS for encryption (e.g. telnets, websockets) instead of SSH.
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Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Nightfox to Mikesla on Sat Sep 10 2022 04:32 pm

Re: Web Interface/Connection
By: Mikesla to All on Sat Sep 10 2022 07:25 pm

How do I setup the web interface to not use telnet but have folks use a much safer way of connecting such as SSH, and/or Rlogin.

I'm not sure if fTelnet can use those other protocols - but I don't think RLogin is any safer than telnet. With RLogin, everything is still passed in the clear. SSH is the only one that would encrypt anything.

Nightfox

Thanks Nightfox.

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