I'm sorry, but I've read through these, and am now more confused. http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dosemu
http://www.icequake.net/bbs/syncmods/

When I setup SBBS, I could have swore I did USE_DOSEMU=1, but when I open a terminal in Linux, the drives do not correspond to the drives in these how-to's.
C:/ Looks blank. Just a tmp, autoexec.bat and config.sys
D:/ looks like either bin or usr
E:/ Looks like root.

I'm supposed to goto E:/ and then goto D:/ for the dropfile, and I just seem to be missing something here.

I got the sunrise doors and would like to set them up, but just feel I am at a roadblock right now.

Grease
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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to All on Wed Jan 08 2020 08:44 pm

I'm sorry, but I've read through these, and am now more confused. http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dosemu
http://www.icequake.net/bbs/syncmods/

When I setup SBBS, I could have swore I did USE_DOSEMU=1, but when I open a terminal in Linux, the drives do not correspond to the drives in these how-to's.
C:/ Looks blank. Just a tmp, autoexec.bat and config.sys
D:/ looks like either bin or usr
E:/ Looks like root.

I'm supposed to goto E:/ and then goto D:/ for the dropfile, and I just seem to be missing something here.

I got the sunrise doors and would like to set them up, but just feel I am at a roadblock right now.

Please explain exactly how you "open a terminal in Linux" and then see DOS drive mappings. That's not how those mappings work - they're only mapped when DOSEMU is being run and specifically, when run from sbbs (e.g. not from a shell prompt).

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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Grease on Wed Jan 08 2020 08:41 pm

Please explain exactly how you "open a terminal in Linux" and then see DOS drive mappings. That's not how those mappings work - they're only mapped when DOSEMU is being run and specifically, when run from sbbs (e.g. not from a shell prompt).

I click on terminal icon, type in dosemu, and I get a new terminal window with DOS in it.

So, the remap is done through sbbs? OK. How would I be able to check? Or to be able to see if it is there?

I'm in the dark about running DOS in Linux and if something goes wrong, I have no clue what happened.

Grease
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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to Digital Man on Thu Jan 09 2020 09:54 am

Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Grease on Wed Jan 08 2020 08:41 pm

Please explain exactly how you "open a terminal in Linux" and then see DOS drive mappings. That's not how those mappings work - they're only mapped when DOSEMU is being run and specifically, when run from sbbs (e.g. not from a shell prompt).

I click on terminal icon, type in dosemu, and I get a new terminal window with DOS in it.

Okay, in that process, the drive mappings would be different.

So, the remap is done through sbbs? OK. How would I be able to check? Or to be able to see if it is there?

You could setup a DOS door that just runs command.com maybe?

I'm in the dark about running DOS in Linux and if something goes wrong, I have no clue what happened.

I've never used/run DOSemu myself, so my ability to help debug any issues is limited.

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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to All on Wed Jan 08 2020 20:44:08

When I setup SBBS, I could have swore I did USE_DOSEMU=1, but when I open a terminal in Linux, the drives do not correspond to the drives in these how-to's.
C:/ Looks blank. Just a tmp, autoexec.bat and config.sys
D:/ looks like either bin or usr
E:/ Looks like root.

I'm supposed to goto E:/ and then goto D:/ for the dropfile, and I just seem to be missing something here.

yeah, you are... there's more than one dosemu setup at play here... a normal linux user gets their .dosemu directory in their home directory whereas from within sbbs, the .dosemu directory is placed in sbbs/ctrl and sbbs sets up its own environment for that one...


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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Rampage to Grease on Thu Jan 09 2020 01:55 pm

whereas from within sbbs, the .dosemu directory is placed in sbbs/ctrl and sbbs sets up its own environment for that one...

Is there a way to see if it's there, or is it something that creates itself when you fire it up to run a door?

Grease
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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Will Milberger to Rampage on Thu Jan 09 2020 05:33 pm

Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Rampage to Grease on Thu Jan 09 2020 01:55 pm

whereas from within sbbs, the .dosemu directory is placed in sbbs/ctrl and sbbs sets up its own environment for that one...

Is there a way to see if it's there, or is it something that creates itself when you fire it up to run a door?

The dosemu.conf file is created by you, but the default is usually fine. The drive mappings (you were asking about) are setup by sbbs (xtrn.cpp) in an external.bat file created in the current sbbs node's directory (e.g. /sbbs/node1) at the time you run the DOS external from sbbs's terminal server. And that external.bat is in turn executed via dosemu.bin.

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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to Digital Man on Thu Jan 09 2020 09:54 am

Please explain exactly how you "open a terminal in Linux" and then see DOS drive mappings. That's not how those mappings work - they're only mapped when DOSEMU is being run and specifically, when run from sbbs (e.g. not from a shell prompt).

I click on terminal icon, type in dosemu, and I get a new terminal window with DOS in it.

So, the remap is done through sbbs? OK. How would I be able to check? Or to be able to see if it is there?

What's the output you're getting when trying to run the game trough the External programs menu in Synchronet?

Do you have emusetup.bat in your ctrl dir?

Did a external.bat file get created in your node directory when you ran the game?

I'm in the dark about running DOS in Linux and if something goes wrong, I have no clue what happened.

If dosemu is trying to load the game, it will create a dosemu_boot.log in your node dir that should be able to point you to any problems.

Does the door work loading it manually through dosemu, for example, in LORD you can run LOCAL.BAT to load a local version without a drop file.

Note that running dosemu manually, your log file will be in your users home directory, ~/.dosemu/boot.log. Additionally, you can map your drives manually as well if you must: lredir E: linux\fs/sbbs/xtrn (use your path to xtrn).

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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Grease on Thu Jan 09 2020 10:04 am

I've never used/run DOSemu myself, so my ability to help debug any issues is limited.

Ok, looks like I'll just have to jump out there and see how it goes.

Grease
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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Altere to Grease on Thu Jan 09 2020 05:57 pm

What's the output you're getting when trying to run the game trough the External programs menu in Synchronet?

I have not ran a game yet. I am confused on how to set it up and if DOSEMU is actually set up in SBBS.

Do you have emusetup.bat in your ctrl dir?

Yes. I have copied the one here: http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dosemu and placed it in the ctrl directory.

Did a external.bat file get created in your node directory when you ran the game?

Have not ran a game. I am confused about the switching of lredir and how and where all the drives show up.
I am going to try to set up a game now and see how it goes. I'm just going to copy what is on that wiki.

Grease
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Grease wrote:

I'm sorry, but I've read through these, and am now more confused. http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dosemu
http://www.icequake.net/bbs/syncmods/

When I setup SBBS, I could have swore I did USE_DOSEMU=1, but when I open a terminal in Linux, the drives do not correspond to the drives in these how-to's.
C:/ Looks blank. Just a tmp, autoexec.bat and config.sys
D:/ looks like either bin or usr
E:/ Looks like root.

I'm supposed to goto E:/ and then goto D:/ for the dropfile, and I just seem to be missing something here.

I got the sunrise doors and would like to set them up, but just feel I am at a roadblock right now.

What OS are you running? These instructions should work if you are running Ubuntu. I've never got dosemu to work on CentOS.

When you run a DOS door it'll create external.bat in your node directory.

At the bottom of the file is some command comment that you can use to run locally. Give this a try.


This should give you a C:> prompt

Run the following commends to setup your environment

set DSZLOG=D:\PROTOCOL.LOG
set SBBSNODE=D:
set SBBSNNUM=1
set SBBSCTRL=F:
set SBBSDATA=G:
set SBBSEXEC=H:
set PCBNODE=1
lredir del E:
lredir del F:
lredir del G:
lredir del H:
lredir E: linux\fs\sbbs\xtrn
lredir F: linux\fs\sbbs\ctrl
lredir G: linux\fs\sbbs\data
lredir H: linux\fs\sbbs\exec
E:

Don't ask, it just works.

my next line is

call F:\emusetup.bat

I am putting my fossil driver in there (No idea if I need it, again, it just works)

so my /sbbs/ctrl/emusetup.bat contains:
e:\dosutils\x00.exe eliminate

You'll need a copy of x00.exe and stick it in your /sbbs/xtrn/dosutils directory (create it if it doesn't exist).

At this point E: is pointing to your /sbbs/xtrn directory. If you've not already create dir for your game, and uncompress it. I recommend no more
than 8 characters for a directory name. Once created you can CD in DOSEMU. There's usually some configurtion you need to do either there'll be a config file or sometimes a setup program that needs to be run under dos. This procedure can be used to do that. You'll need to configure the number of
nodes, drop file, etc. All this should be on the synchro wiki. I believe there's a walkthrough on setting a game up.

Most games have an option to run locally, usually using /L or /LOCAL or something similar. Check the docs. Most files that are .DOC are actually
text and not Word format :)

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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Will Milberger to Rampage on Thu Jan 09 2020 17:33:11

whereas from within sbbs, the .dosemu directory is placed in

sbbs/ctrl and sbbs sets up its own environment for that one...

Is there a way to see if it's there, or is it something that creates itself when you fire it up to run a door?

if it doesn't already exist, it will be created the first time dosemu is used from within sbbs...

how can you tell if it is there? in bash, you can use one of these two oneliners on the command line...

[ -d "$SBBSCTRL/.dosemu" ] && echo "it exists!" || echo "sorry..."

test -d "$SBBSCTRL/.dosemu" && echo "it exists!" || echo "sorry..."

they are both the same... make sure your SBBSCTRL environment variable is set properly...


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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Altere to Grease on Thu Jan 09 2020 17:57:10

Do you have emusetup.bat in your ctrl dir?

FWIW: you do not need sbbs/ctrl/emusetup.bat if you set up your sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/autoexec.bat and config.sys manually... i do not use emusetup.bat at all...

i copied bnu.com and x00.exe into my sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c and modified my autoexec.bat to load one of them all the time... i also modified my config.sys to always load nansi.sys so ANSI is always interpreted... no emusetup.bat needed at all ;)


/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/tmp/
/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/temp/
/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/autoexec.bat
/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/autoexec.org /sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/bnu.com/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/config.org /sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/config.sys/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/x00.exe


----->8 snip 8<-----
@echo off
rem autoexec.bat for DOSEMU + FreeDOS
path z:\bin;z:\gnu;z:\dosemu
set HELPPATH=z:\help
set TEMP=c:\tmp
rem blaster
share
rem *************************
rem * load one of: *
rem * dosemu's fossil.exe *
rem * or bnu.com *
rem * or x00.exe *
rem *************************
rem fossil
bnu /P:1 /L:0=38400 /F+ /Z0 /M+ /T:4096 /R:4096
rem x00 eliminate
prompt $p $g
unix -s DOSDRIVE_D
if "%DOSDRIVE_D%" == "" goto nodrived
lredir del d: > nul
lredir d: linux\fs%DOSDRIVE_D%
:nodrived
rem uncomment to load another bitmap font
rem loadhi display con=(vga,437,2)
rem mode con codepage prepare=((850) z:\cpi\ega.cpx)
rem mode con codepage select 850
rem chcp 850
lredir e: linux\fs/media/cdrom c
unix -s DOSEMU_VERSION
echo "Welcome to dosemu %DOSEMU_VERSION%!"
unix -e
----->8 snip 8<-----


----->8 snip 8<-----
rem config.sys for DOSEMU + FreeDOS
rem note that the initial "D:" is set to "Z:" at the end
SWITCHES=/F
DOS=UMB,HIGH
dosdata=umb
lastdrive=Z
files=40
stacks=0
buffers=10
device=d:\dosemu\ems.sys
devicehigh=d:\dosemu\cdrom.sys
devicehigh=d:\bin\nansi.sys
install=d:\dosemu\lredir.com z: linux\fs\${DOSEMU_LIB_DIR}/drive_z ro shellhigh=z:\command.com /e:1024 /p
----->8 snip 8<-----



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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Grease on Fri Jan 10 2020 05:17 am

What OS are you running? These instructions should work if you are running Ubuntu. I've never got dosemu to work on CentOS.

Ubuntu. DOSEMU works on its' own windowed terminal. Trying through SBBS. I'm going to go through what you have posted here. Last night, I tried what I could make of the wiki. I got door.sys in the directory and in the console log, I got a DOS not allowed error.

When you run a DOS door it'll create external.bat in your node directory.

I did not get this in the directory. Does it delete after it runs? I checked node.log and crash.log, no reference to running a door. I also checked in /sbbs/xtrn/3pair, and nothing there either.

Run the following commends to setup your environment
set DSZLOG=D:\PROTOCOL.LOG
set SBBSNODE=D:
set SBBSNNUM=1
set SBBSCTRL=F: (more)

Is this in the external.bat? I did not find one.
I'll keep messing with it. Thank you for the help.

Grease
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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Rampage to Will Milberger on Fri Jan 10 2020 06:45 am

I did this one:

test -d "$SBBSCTRL/.dosemu" && echo "it exists!" || echo "sorry..."

I got:

"sorry..."

Now what do I do? I could have sworn I did DOSEMU=1 when I setup SBBS.
Could Ubuntu's DOSEMU blow out the SBBS one?
Is there a way to put it in through CVS or something?

Grease
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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Rampage to Altere on Fri Jan 10 2020 06:59 am

i copied bnu.com and x00.exe into my sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c and modified my autoexec.bat to load one of them all the time... i also modified my config.sys to always load nansi.sys so ANSI is always interpreted... no emusetup.bat needed at all ;)

I don't have this directory. I have it in my home directory and dosemu in in my bin directory. Can I move it to sbbs/ctrl? Or can I use it from there?

/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/tmp/
/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/temp/
/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/autoexec.bat /sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/autoexec.org /sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/bnu.com/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/config.org /sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/config.sys/sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu/drive_c/x00.exe

Doesn't exist. Can I make them?
Sorry to be trouble. Thank you for the help.

Grease
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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to Altere on Thu Jan 09 2020 08:01 pm

Did a external.bat file get created in your node directory when you ran the game?

Have not ran a game. I am confused about the switching of lredir and how and where all the drives show up.
I am going to try to set up a game now and see how it goes. I'm just going to copy what is on that wiki.

If you don't need to run any configuration utilities to configure the game before running it you don't need to run dosemu manually and setup the environment. Just add in scfg, recycle nodes, login and run the door. Synchronet handles the rest.

Note: I read ahead on another response of yours about DOS not allowed? If you're getting this through Synchronet it would make me think you did not compile it with USE_DOSEMU=1. This is why I asked what the output or errors were when trying to run the door from within Synchronet were.

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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to Nelgin on Fri Jan 10 2020 09:46 am

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Grease on Fri Jan 10 2020 05:17 am

What OS are you running? These instructions should work if you are running Ubuntu. I've never got dosemu to work on CentOS.

Ubuntu. DOSEMU works on its' own windowed terminal. Trying through SBBS. I'm going to go through what you have posted here. Last night, I tried what I could make of the wiki. I got door.sys in the directory and in the console log, I got a DOS not allowed error.

You definitely need to resolve that "DOS not allowed error" first thing.

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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Altere to Grease on Fri Jan 10 2020 01:40 pm

Note: I read ahead on another response of yours about DOS not allowed? If you're getting this through Synchronet it would make me think you did not compile it with USE_DOSEMU=1. This is why I asked what the output or errors were when trying to run the door from within Synchronet were.

I could have sworn, I did. Mainly because I copied and pasted when I set up sbbs. But I did a test, and it is not there. I do have DOSEMU in Ubuntu. Is there a way to add DOSEMU after the fact? Try and reload it?

Grease
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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Grease on Fri Jan 10 2020 12:08 pm

You definitely need to resolve that "DOS not allowed error" first thing.

Really? <wet fart noise> :(

I could have sworn I did the 'ol DOSEMU=1 thing as I cut and pasted when I setup sbbs. Is there a way to do it after the fact?
Or is it a backup and redo? (please don't tell me that)
I have DOSEMU in Ubuntu.


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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Will Milberger to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 03:15 pm

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Grease on Fri Jan 10 2020 12:08 pm

You definitely need to resolve that "DOS not allowed error" first thing.

Really? <wet fart noise> :(

I could have sworn I did the 'ol DOSEMU=1 thing as I cut and pasted when I setup sbbs.

It's USE_DOSEMU=1

Is there a way to do it after the fact?

You need to rebuild sbbs.

Or is it a backup and redo? (please don't tell me that)

You need to perform a clean rebuild of sbbs and add the USE_DOSEMU=1 option.

I have DOSEMU in Ubuntu.

Good, that's required as wel.

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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Will Milberger on Fri Jan 10 2020 01:29 pm

It's USE_DOSEMU=1

I was just typing less.

You need to rebuild sbbs.

That is not what I needed to hear. Drat.
I guess I'll back up text and configuration files.
Thanks for help.

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Digital wrote:

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Will Milberger to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 03:15 pm

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Grease on Fri Jan 10 2020 12:08 pm

You definitely need to resolve that "DOS not allowed error" first
thing.

Really? <wet fart noise> :(

I could have sworn I did the 'ol DOSEMU=1 thing as I cut and pasted when I
setup sbbs.

It's USE_DOSEMU=1

Is there a way to do it after the fact?

You need to rebuild sbbs.

Or is it a backup and redo? (please don't tell me that)

You need to perform a clean rebuild of sbbs and add the USE_DOSEMU=1 option.

I have DOSEMU in Ubuntu.

Good, that's required as wel.

Put USE_DOSEMU=1 in /sbbs/src/sbbs3/localdefs.mk and you'll never have to
worry about adding it to the command line. The compiler will pick up the setting automatically.

bbs@bbs:~$ cat /sbbs/src/sbbs3/localdefs.mk
USE_DOSEMU=1

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Digital wrote:

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Will Milberger to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 03:15 pm

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Grease on Fri Jan 10 2020 12:08 pm

You definitely need to resolve that "DOS not allowed error" first
thing.

Really? <wet fart noise> :(

I could have sworn I did the 'ol DOSEMU=1 thing as I cut and pasted when I
setup sbbs.

It's USE_DOSEMU=1

Is there a way to do it after the fact?

You need to rebuild sbbs.

Or is it a backup and redo? (please don't tell me that)

You need to perform a clean rebuild of sbbs and add the USE_DOSEMU=1 option.

I have DOSEMU in Ubuntu.

Good, that's required as wel.

Another thing that springs to mind is that with DOSEMU opening in a window, that means your DISPLAY variable is probably say.

Run a shell by using ;SHELL from your main menu when logged in as sysop.

echo $DISPLAY

if DISPLAY is set then that's your problem. I had this initially and I can't remember for the life of me how I resolved it. I obviously unset DISPLAY
before sbbs runs.

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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Will Milberger to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 03:43 pm

You need to rebuild sbbs.

That is not what I needed to hear. Drat.
I guess I'll back up text and configuration files.
Thanks for help.

I won't discourage you from doing a backup but rebuilding the source doesn't replace any of your text or configuration files, just your executables.

http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix

Look near the bottom on Clean Rebuild.

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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 03:54 pm

Put USE_DOSEMU=1 in /sbbs/src/sbbs3/localdefs.mk and you'll never have to worry about adding it to the command line. The compiler will pick up the setting automatically.

It was already in there.

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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to Rampage on Fri Jan 10 2020 10:02:58

test -d "$SBBSCTRL/.dosemu" && echo "it exists!" || echo "sorry..."

I got:

"sorry..."

Now what do I do? I could have sworn I did DOSEMU=1 when I setup SBBS.

you might have but you have not run dosemu VIA sbbs...

Could Ubuntu's DOSEMU blow out the SBBS one?

no

Is there a way to put it in through CVS or something?

no


create yourself a sysop only xtrn command to run dosemu... then it'll configure everything as needed and you can edit it if desired like i pointed out in another of my messages...


DOSEmu command.com

Name DOSEmu command.com
Internal Code DOSEMUCO
Start-up Directory ../xtrn
Command Line command.com
Clean-up Command Line
Execution Cost None
Access Requirements SYSOP
Execution Requirements
Multiple Concurrent Users Yes
Intercept I/O Standard
Native Executable No
Use Shell to Execute No
Modify User Data No
Execute on Event No
Pause After Execution No
BBS Drop File Type None
Place Drop File In Node Directory
Time Options...

run this one time and it'll create the sbbs/ctrl/.dosemu directory... then you can edit the autoexec.bat and config.sys as i showed in my other message... use exitemu to leave dosemu...

then you should be able to set up your DOS doors... you can then also use this as your DOS so you can run your doors' setup programs and similar...


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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Will Milberger to Altere on Fri Jan 10 2020 15:10:38

I could have sworn, I did. Mainly because I copied and pasted
when I set up sbbs. But I did a test, and it is not there. I
do have DOSEMU in Ubuntu. Is there a way to add DOSEMU after
the fact? Try and reload it?

simple recompile with the same options you used the first time and add the DOSEMU one so it will compile with that added in...


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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Will Milberger to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 15:43:06

You need to rebuild sbbs.

That is not what I needed to hear. Drat.
I guess I'll back up text and configuration files.

no need for that... they're not touched when you build the sources... they're only touched when you first install so you have something to start with... i've built mine several times in a day with no ill effects... i have scripts to do all the grunt work, though... i can try to find links to them if you are interested...


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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 04:02 pm

echo $DISPLAY
if DISPLAY is set then that's your problem. I had this initially and I can't remember for the life of me how I resolved it. I obviously unset DISPLAY before sbbs runs.

I get :
:0

Grease
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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Will Milberger to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 03:43 pm

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Will Milberger on Fri Jan 10 2020 01:29 pm

It's USE_DOSEMU=1

I was just typing less.

You need to rebuild sbbs.

That is not what I needed to hear. Drat.
I guess I'll back up text and configuration files.

I didn't say you needed to re-download or overwrite any files (e.g. in /sbbs). Just follow the steps here:
http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix#clean_rebuild

But obviously a backup is never a bad idea.

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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Altere to Will Milberger on Fri Jan 10 2020 04:48 pm

I won't discourage you from doing a backup but rebuilding the source doesn't replace any of your text or configuration files, just your executables.
http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix
Look near the bottom on Clean Rebuild.

Well, that make my Friday night a little more tolerable.
Thanks!

Grease
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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Altere to Will Milberger on Fri Jan 10 2020 04:48 pm

I won't discourage you from doing a backup but rebuilding the source doesn't replace any of your text or configuration files, just your executables.

I just did this. I now have a .dosemu in my sbbs/ctrl. There's nothing in there, but it's there now.

Grease
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Will Milberger wrote to Digital Man <=-

It's USE_DOSEMU=1
You need to rebuild sbbs.

That is not what I needed to hear. Drat.
I guess I'll back up text and configuration files.

You probably should back them up, but most of them won't get
altered by a rebuild. Just follow (carefully) the instructions on
the Wiki for doing a development update. It only takes a few
minutes.



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Will Milberger wrote to Digital Man <=-

I could have sworn I did the 'ol DOSEMU=1 thing as I cut and
pasted when I setup sbbs.

Well, the example command lines on the Wiki do not include the
USE_DOSEMU=1 statement, so if you copy/pasted and executed that
command, it would explain your problem...

Is there a way to do it after the fact?

No.

Or is it a backup and redo? (please don't tell me that)

Yes.

I have DOSEMU in Ubuntu.

Good.


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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Rampage to Grease on Fri Jan 10 2020 07:37 pm

create yourself a sysop only xtrn command to run dosemu... then it'll configure everything as needed and you can edit it if desired like i pointed out in another of my messages...

Okay, some headway. I got the ../ctrl/.dosemu folder
I made the autoexec.bat and config.sys and copied the fossils into the .dosemu directory.
When I try to run the door, or the command .com external, I get these messages:

can't create local /root/.dosemu directory
can't create local /root/.dosemu/run directory
can't open /sbbs/node1/dosemu_boot.log for writing

I can open a terminal and type dosemu, and it loads up the autoexec and config.sys. I can even do it in a shell.
It doesn't load the cdrom, it is root on E:

You and everyone else has been very patient with me, and I thank you.

Grease
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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to Rampage on Fri Jan 10 2020 08:44 pm

When I try to run the door, or the command .com external, I get these messages:
can't create local /root/.dosemu directory
can't create local /root/.dosemu/run directory
can't open /sbbs/node1/dosemu_boot.log for writing

It's not reading the sbbs dosemu. It's still reading the Ubuntu one.

Grease
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Will wrote:

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 04:02 pm

echo $DISPLAY
if DISPLAY is set then that's your problem. I had this initially and I
can't remember for the life of me how I resolved it. I obviously unset
DISPLAY before sbbs runs.

I get :
:0

That's your problem then. When you run a dos door it's trying to open dosemu
in an xwindow which isn't going to work. Like I said, I don't remember how I resolved it myself, I'll have to see if I can find out.

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Will wrote:

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Digital Man on Fri Jan 10 2020 04:02 pm

echo $DISPLAY
if DISPLAY is set then that's your problem. I had this initially and I
can't remember for the life of me how I resolved it. I obviously unset
DISPLAY before sbbs runs.

I get :
:0

Grease
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How are you starting sbbs? From the command line? systemctl?

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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to Rampage on Fri Jan 10 2020 21:22:54

When I try to run the door, or the command .com external, I get these messages:
can't create local /root/.dosemu directory
can't create local /root/.dosemu/run directory
can't open /sbbs/node1/dosemu_boot.log for writing

It's not reading the sbbs dosemu. It's still reading the Ubuntu one.

no, you've got something else wrong...

the first two lines seem to indicate that you're running the bbs as root... you
really should not do that...

the second line seems to indicate that you ran the bbs as root and are now running it under a different user/group that doesn't have permission to write in that area...

i don't know how much customization you have done or how far along you are in your configuration but i would consider to restart from a bare bones OS install
and do it all again...

1. install the OS
2. install dosemu
3. install the build environment
4. do the sbbs install from the ground up
maybe use my bare bones install script from here
https://pastebin.com/atJxybmU

5. intermittently update to the latest code
maybe use my update script from here
https://pastebin.com/yBVEw3iW

there are some vars in the scripts that may need to be adjusted for your desired installation... i put all my sbbs stuff in /sbbs that i created with root and chowned to sbbs/sbbs so my sbbs user can use it... everything in /sbbs
is owned by sbbs/sbbs... i use an init.d script to start sbbs so it runs as root so it can use ports less than 1024... then sbbs drops permissions level to
those of my sbbs/sbbs user/group... if i need to maintain the bbs, i log in as sbbs and do what i need to do...

i've also found a variable down in the update script that i should move to the top with the other editable vars... it is DLDIR and points to $HOME/downloads/sbbs-dev where the latest sbbs_run.tgz file is downloaded to so
the latest text.dat can be extracted and compared to the existing one... the script does this so you know if some prompts have been added or changed so you can update them if you have customized them... in any case the DLDIR may need to be pointed to another directory and that's the only reason i mention it here... the script also assumes it already exists and along with moving the var
to the top, i should have the script check for it and create it if it does not exist...

so you may not want to use my scripts for a few of these reasons... i guess i really should get them up into a repo on my github... maybe i will do that this
weekend? i dunno... either way, the scripts work nicely for those that have used them... i've used them numerous times in several new VMs... mainly for testing but in some cases for hosting new setups...

my c0ffee is kicking and my trains are running wild... gotta go and stop rambling...


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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Will Milberger on Sat Jan 11 2020 04:24 am

How are you starting sbbs? From the command line? systemctl?

I am using SynchronetManagementConsole. It's basically a daemon setup in python.

Grease
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Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Grease to Rampage on Fri Jan 10 2020 08:44 pm

Okay, some headway. I got the ../ctrl/.dosemu folder
I made the autoexec.bat and config.sys and copied the fossils into the .dosemu directory.
When I try to run the door, or the command .com external, I get these messages:

can't create local /root/.dosemu directory
can't create local /root/.dosemu/run directory
can't open /sbbs/node1/dosemu_boot.log for writing

I'm not sure why it's trying to create a folder in /root, what user are you running Synchronet as? Additionally, you've done a lot of copying & creating various files and all of those should be owned by the proper user/group that you're starting Synchronet as.

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Or is it a backup and redo? (please don't tell me that)

Yes and no. I recompile mine copy ever so often. If you recompile it
without pulling any updates, all that will happen is that the binaries will
be updated. Your configs, menus, etc., should all remain (but DO perform a backup FIRST! <grin>).


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Grease wrote:

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Will Milberger on Sat Jan 11 2020 04:24 am

How are you starting sbbs? From the command line? systemctl?

I am using SynchronetManagementConsole. It's basically a daemon setup in python.

Why?

Try to unset DISPLAY before you run the management console or whatever. If
the management console is a gui then you're going to have problems. Why not just it from systemd like everyone else does (or should)?

For grins you can try to change /sbbs/src/sbbs3/xtrn.cpp line 1422

It should look like this:

"/usr/bin/env %s HOME=%s QUIET=1 DOSDRIVE_D=%s %s -I\"video { none }\" -I'keystroke \"\\r\"' %s -f%s -E%s -o%sdosemu_boot.log %s",


Change it to include DISPLAY=""

"/usr/bin/env %s DISPLAY="" HOME=%s QUIET=1 DOSDRIVE_D=%s %s -I\"video { none }\" -I'keystroke \"\\r\"' %s -f%s -E%s -o%sdosemu_boot.log %s",


Then recompile and restart.

Also, someone mentioned that you installed as root but trying to run as a different user. Make sure you chown -R whatever. /sbbs
to ensure that the owner is set correctly. The only time I am root is to
start and stop the BBS through systemd and even that drops the permissions
to my bbs user.

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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Grease on Sat Jan 11 2020 05:57 pm

Grease wrote:

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Will Milberger on Sat Jan 11 2020 04:24 am

How are you starting sbbs? From the command line? systemctl?

I am using SynchronetManagementConsole. It's basically a daemon setup in python.

Why?

Try to unset DISPLAY before you run the management console or whatever. If the management console is a gui then you're going to have problems. Why not just it from systemd like everyone else does (or should)?

For grins you can try to change /sbbs/src/sbbs3/xtrn.cpp line 1422

It should look like this:

"/usr/bin/env %s HOME=%s QUIET=1 DOSDRIVE_D=%s %s -I\"video { none }\" -I'keystroke \"\\r\"' %s -f%s -E%s -o%sdosemu_boot.log %s",

Change it to include DISPLAY=""

"/usr/bin/env %s DISPLAY="" HOME=%s QUIET=1 DOSDRIVE_D=%s %s -I\"video { none }\" -I'keystroke \"\\r\"' %s -f%s -E%s -o%sdosemu_boot.log %s",

Then recompile and restart.

The correct way to insert double-quotes in a C string is the sequence: \"

So that'd be:
"/usr/bin/env %s DISPLAY=\"\" HOME=%s QUIET=1 DOSDRIVE_D=%s %s -I\"video {
none }\" -I'keystroke \"\\r\"' %s -f%s -E%s -o%sdosemu_boot.log %s"

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Will,

You definitely need to resolve that "DOS not allowed error" first thing

Really? <wet fart noise> :(

Ewwww. :P Sounds like your BBS needs the Toilet Stall Graffitti Wall Door....200 flushes in ANSI. <G>

I could have sworn I did the 'ol DOSEMU=1 thing as I cut and pasted when I WM>setup sbbs. Is there a way to do it after the fact?
Or is it a backup and redo? (please don't tell me that)

He may do it anyway. :P

I have DOSEMU in Ubuntu.

I'm just happy I got Windows 10 32-bit working the way I want, and
with a set of utilities, it looks like Windows 7.

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Digital wrote:

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Grease on Sat Jan 11 2020 05:57 pm

Grease wrote:

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Will Milberger on Sat Jan 11 2020 04:24 am

How are you starting sbbs? From the command line? systemctl?

I am using SynchronetManagementConsole. It's basically a daemon setup in
python.

Why?

Try to unset DISPLAY before you run the management console or whatever. If
the management console is a gui then you're going to have problems. Why not
just it from systemd like everyone else does (or should)?

For grins you can try to change /sbbs/src/sbbs3/xtrn.cpp line 1422

It should look like this:

"/usr/bin/env %s HOME=%s QUIET=1 DOSDRIVE_D=%s %s -I\"video { none }\"
-I'keystroke \"\\r\"' %s -f%s -E%s -o%sdosemu_boot.log %s",


Change it to include DISPLAY=""

"/usr/bin/env %s DISPLAY="" HOME=%s QUIET=1 DOSDRIVE_D=%s %s -I\"video {
none }\" -I'keystroke \"\\r\"' %s -f%s -E%s -o%sdosemu_boot.log %s",


Then recompile and restart.

The correct way to insert double-quotes in a C string is the sequence: \"

So that'd be:
"/usr/bin/env %s DISPLAY=\"\" HOME=%s QUIET=1 DOSDRIVE_D=%s %s -I\"video {
none }\" -I'keystroke \"\\r\"' %s -f%s -E%s -o%sdosemu_boot.log %s"

Yup, my bad. Good catch.

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On 01-10-20 16:48, Altere wrote to Will Milberger <=-

I won't discourage you from doing a backup but rebuilding the source doesn't replace any of your text or configuration files, just your executables.

True, but it never hurts to do a backup, just in case something goes horribly pear shaped. :)


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Grease wrote:

I'm sorry, but I've read through these, and am now more confused. http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dosemu
http://www.icequake.net/bbs/syncmods/

When I setup SBBS, I could have swore I did USE_DOSEMU=1, but when I open a terminal in Linux, the drives do not correspond to the drives in these how-to's.
C:/ Looks blank. Just a tmp, autoexec.bat and config.sys
D:/ looks like either bin or usr
E:/ Looks like root.

I'm supposed to goto E:/ and then goto D:/ for the dropfile, and I just seem to be missing something here.

I got the sunrise doors and would like to set them up, but just feel I am at a roadblock right now.

So, we spend a lot of time trying to help you get this going. Did it work?

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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Grease on Thu Jan 16 2020 04:11 am

So, we spend a lot of time trying to help you get this going. Did it work?

Not yet. I did a fresh install of operating system and sbbs. The usb stick wouldn't read my backup, so basically starting over from scratch. Luckily, I had my ansi screens on a different computer. It'll probably be another week or so until I get back to it.

Grease
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Grease wrote:

Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Grease on Thu Jan 16 2020 04:11 am

So, we spend a lot of time trying to help you get this going. Did it work?

Not yet. I did a fresh install of operating system and sbbs. The usb stick wouldn't read my backup, so basically starting over from scratch. Luckily, I had my ansi screens on a different computer. It'll probably be another week or so until I get back to it.

What OS and version are you using?

If you went with Ubuntu (highly recommended, sbbs just works with ubunto) I
can probably tar up my working dosemu setup. You'll just need to make sure
the packages are installed and then drop in my tar. I did this before but
for previous version of Ubuntu, it will have everything you need, config, emusetup.bat, fossil driver, configure all your drives, etc. I need a test subject for it anyway to make sure I got all the components.
Let me know if you're interested.

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Re: Re: Running DOS doors in Synchronet
By: Nelgin to Grease on Thu Jan 16 2020 12:30 pm

What OS and version are you using?

Swapped back to Manjaro (a form of Arch). Close enough to Ubuntu (At least to Debian)

I can probably tar up my working dosemu setup. You'll just need to make sure the packages are installed and then drop in my tar.

Sounds like fun. Willing to give it a try. Getting close enough on things to get back on the BBS to do the tarball on Sunday.
I can d/l from your board, or you can upload it on darkmatt.synchro.net, or email to wilmil@rocketmail.com

Thanks!

Grease
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