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    From Melkor@VERT/STARFRON to All on Sat Mar 7 20:58:54 2020
    Im trying to get fidonet setup on my bbs. Everything is fine until it tries to send my netmail app. binkit connects fine but then it says unable to open the .out file and not sent. Any ideas?

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Melkor on Sat Mar 7 16:04:02 2020
    Re: Fidonet
    By: Melkor to All on Sat Mar 07 2020 08:58 pm

    Im trying to get fidonet setup on my bbs. Everything is fine until it tries to send my netmail app. binkit connects fine but then it says unable to open the .out file and not sent. Any ideas?

    Post the exact/complete error message, please.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Melkor on Sat Mar 7 18:42:40 2020
    Re: Fidonet
    By: Melkor to All on Sat Mar 07 2020 20:58:54


    Im trying to get fidonet setup on my bbs. Everything is fine
    until it tries to send my netmail app. binkit connects fine
    but then it says unable to open the .out file and not sent.
    Any ideas?

    please post the output of your sbbsecho where it packed that message to the destination...
    please post the output of your binkit log where it attempted to deliver the out file...

    the log for sbbsecho will generally be found in /sbbs/data/sbbsecho.log...
    the log for binkit will generally be found in the same place as your other event/service/bbs log data...

    what we're looking for is the paths that each uses and ensuring they are the same...


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  • From Melkor@VERT/STARFRON to Rampage on Sun Mar 8 01:55:29 2020
    Re: Fidonet
    By: Rampage to Melkor on Sat Mar 07 2020 06:42 pm

    please post the output of your sbbsecho where it packed that message to the destination... please post the output of your binkit log where it attempted to deliver the out file...
    Packing netmail (1.msg) from William Williams (1:19/9999) to Marc Lewis (1:19/0) attr 0181, subject: fidonet app
    SBBSecho (pid 11141) exiting error level 0, netmail (0 imported, 1 exported, 1 packed)
    Binkout connects to his system fine then says unable to open '../sbbs/fido/outbound/0013000.out' not sent.
    I was told to try changing ownership of the /sbbs folder tree when I did that it sent 2 messages. Then I wrote another one to appoligize and explain the problem and had the same problem sending it.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Melkor on Sun Mar 8 13:48:58 2020
    Re: Fidonet
    By: Melkor to Rampage on Sun Mar 08 2020 01:55:29


    Melkor> I was told to try changing ownership of the /sbbs folder
    Melkor> tree when I did that it sent 2 messages. Then I wrote
    Melkor> another one to appoligize and explain the problem and
    Melkor> had the same problem sending it.

    yeah, sounds like a classic permissions problem... to make things easy, i run everything as the same user and never use root... the BBS and mailer(s) are started when the system boots and then they drop privs to the normal user privs after they have opened the necessary low range ports... since everything is running as the same user and the entire BBS directory tree is owned by that user, there's no problems...

    IF, on the other hand, you are using (eg) var/spool/something for mailer transfers, that can cause problems that are a little harder to work around but can be done...


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Rampage on Mon Mar 9 08:19:00 2020
    On 03-08-20 13:48, Rampage wrote to Melkor <=-

    yeah, sounds like a classic permissions problem... to make things easy,
    i run everything as the same user and never use root... the BBS and mailer(s) are started when the system boots and then they drop privs to the normal user privs after they have opened the necessary low range ports... since everything is running as the same user and the entire
    BBS directory tree is owned by that user, there's no problems...

    I start everything as the BBS user, which means using the "setcap" method to give sbbs permission to bind low ports as a non root user. This is documented on the Synchronet wiki "Running SBBS as a non root user" or similar.

    IF, on the other hand, you are using (eg) var/spool/something for
    mailer transfers, that can cause problems that are a little harder to
    work around but can be done...

    I use binkp mailer sessions between my 2 BBSs on the same host, because it's the easiest way to get around permissions issues, since each BBS runs as a different user. Also, they started out on separate machines, so keeping binkp as the transport means minimal changes were eneded.


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  • From MSGRetired@VERT/TACBBS to ALL on Sun May 5 10:08:50 2024
    Havent had much luck setting up Fidonet. My old net 322 seems to be defunct and my fresh set up cant seem to send any netmail. Tried sending to my RC 1:16/0 but it says system not found. Same when trying to send to the NC 1:322/0 ..

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MSGRetired on Sun May 5 14:28:01 2024
    Re: Fidonet
    By: MSGRetired to ALL on Sun May 05 2024 10:08 am

    Havent had much luck setting up Fidonet. My old net 322 seems to be defunct and my fresh set up cant seem to send any netmail. Tried sending to my RC 1:16/0 but it says system not found. Same when trying to send to the NC

    Are you asking for help?

    Did you try this the instructions from here: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:fidonet
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to MSGRetired on Sun May 5 17:52:16 2024
    Re: Fidonet
    By: MSGRetired to ALL on Sun May 05 2024 10:08 am

    Havent had much luck setting up Fidonet. My old net 322 seems to be defunct and my fresh set up cant seem to send any netmail. Tried sending to my RC 1:16/0 but it says system not found. Same when trying to send to the NC 1:322/0 ..

    Well, if Net 322 is defunct (which I can verify it is), sending a netmail to NC322 won't work...

    You didn't say where you're located, but it sounds like you need a Nodelist. You can get that here: http://fido-z1.darkrealms.ca/nodelist.htm

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  • From MSGRetired@VERT/TACBBS to Gamgee on Mon May 6 05:08:24 2024
    Thanks for the current nodelist, the one I had was from last year. I am located in Massachusetts. Looks like there is no net in MA any longer so I may need to reach out to the Region 16 coordinator.

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