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  • tickitjs does not match TicFilePwd when 4D address is used in .tic fil

    From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab issue in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 20:44:09 2021
    open https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240

    Within the fido config utility (echocfg) when entering a 4D address (NNN:NNN/NNN.0) the address is written in 3D format, i.e. with the point (0) removed. This works fine for most uses cases, however if an inbound .tic file uses a 4D address, then tickit.js will not match the Pw entry and TicFilePwd entry, and the following error occurs:

    Configured TicFilePwd is empty, but TIC file has a password, node: 39:13/0.0

    Suggested fix, within tickit.js as well as trying to match NNN:NNN/NNN also try NNN:NNN/NNN.0 in case 4D format is used in a .tic file.

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  • From Deuc¿@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 20:52:43 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1724

    Sounds like something isn't use the address parsing thing in the FIDO object.

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  • From Deuc¿@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 20:56:14 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1725

    It would be helpful to have log lines before and after the error, not just the error. It looks like there's a weird hack to check passwords twice in some cases.

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 20:58:45 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1726

    I've imported the file for now, by editing the sbbsecho.ini file and adding the .0 point, however any further edits with echocfg restore the address back to a 3D address.

    Also if 4D was added to echocfg, then I would imagine I would need to add every linked address twice, firstly in 3D format them 4D format, to cater for both types in .tic files.

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:00:21 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1727

    The next time I get a file with a 4D address, I'll copy the whole text into this log.

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:00:47 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1728

    The next time I get a file with a 4D address, I'll copy the whole text into this log.

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  • From waldo kitty@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:04:49 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1729

    as the guy that added a lot to tickit and spent time in this particular area, i can say that tickit specifically does two rounds through the addresses in sbbsecho.ini looking for a remote system's password... the first loop is without the 5D domain and the second loop adds the 5D domain... it should be finding them in 4D or 5D mode...

    i really wanted to fix up the C/C++ code so that an address lookup would automatically work with either 4D or 5D FTN addresses but my C/C++ is woefully ugh...

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  • From waldo kitty@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:06:43 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1730

    .0?? that's interesting... x:y/z, x:y/z.0, x:y/z@foobar, and x:y/z.0@foobar should all be the same...

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:12:37 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1731

    That's right - it did two passes - one without the @ and one with.

    I will post the full text the next time it errors.

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:16:54 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1732

    Agreed although tickit.js only checks for two of those four combinations at the moment I believe....

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  • From waldo kitty@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:19:47 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1733

    i'm just trying to understand how it missed the address... you only added the .0 in sbbsecho.ini?

    FWIW: FTN addressing is weird...
    fidonet started with only the node number aka 1D...
    then it added nets y/z for 2D...
    then points and zones both came about the same time... address representation may or may not be done with the zone so x:y/z and y/z.d are both 3D... when the zone is left off, your default zone is assumed...
    x:y/s.d is probably best known as 4D...
    finally @domain was added and then you have x:y/z@domain (5D) and y/z.d@domain (4D)...
    so you can see that there are two 3D and 4D representations in FTN software but few support the @domain format... my original work on tickit was was party to further true 5D in sbbs as well as enhancing tickit to work properly in a HUB configuration...

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  • From waldo kitty@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:21:17 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1734

    yeah, the C/C++ code should already be handling the .0 internally... i haven't been in the code in a couple of years, though... haven't even switched to git from cvs yet :(

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:23:11 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1735

    I'm assuming that tickit.js sees something like NNN:NNN/NNN.0 in the tic file, then searches sbbsecho.ini for a matching address, which it won't find, as the address is in 3D format - NNN:NNN/NNN

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  • From waldo kitty@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:25:09 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1736

    ahhhhh!!! in the TIC file? yeah, ok... can you grab that TIC the next time, too? i would really like to see it... mask out the password, of course...

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:25:52 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1737

    No problem.

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  • From waldo kitty@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 19 21:29:11 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1738

    yeah, that "weird hack" is to make it work with domains because i couldn't figure out the C/C++ code right to handle 3D/4D and 3D/4D+domain properly... initial attempts worked but were shot down for a reason i don't recall so i punted and just did the dual lookup in tickit... the attempts might have been due to adding more logging but it has been too long to remember that part clearly...

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  • From Rob Swindell@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Sat Mar 20 22:50:50 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1742

    This should be fixed with the most recent commit to fido_syscfg.js. Can you confirm?

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Sun Mar 21 00:02:25 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1743

    Hi Rob - what was the fix? (just so I know what I'm testing).

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  • From Rob Swindell@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Sun Mar 21 01:54:33 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1744

    A tic file address with a .0 point specified should match the same address (without the .0 point) from sbbsecho.ini now.

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Sun Mar 21 19:38:06 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1746

    As soon as I get my next 4D .tic file I will you know. Might be Friday though for the next nodelist.

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  • From Keyop Troy@VERT to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Fri Mar 26 22:51:12 2021
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240#note_1772

    So I've received the next nodelist from my hub and it went through ok, and I haven't tried the fix DigitalMan provided as I wanted to see it fail first before applying the latest code. Also my hub upgraded their system last weekend so this might explain why I don't have 4D problems this week. I will post another note on here if I spot the same problem again in future.

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  • From Rob Swindell@VERT to GitLab issue in main/sbbs on Tue Apr 13 08:00:38 2021
    close https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/240

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