I don't see a mention of RIP graphics there.. My guess would be Mystic doesn't support RIP, but I don't know for sure.

Back in the good ol' days if you didn't have native rip support, you could substitute rip files for ans files and move your ans files to asc files. This would give you default rip with fallback to ansi in the case of missing rip/ans files. Never saw a rip client without ANSI support.

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Re: Re: Door games w/ graphical terminal clients
By: StormTrooper to Nightfox on Mon Jan 02 2023 08:30 am

I don't see a mention of RIP graphics there.. My guess would be
Mystic doesn't support RIP, but I don't know for sure.

Back in the good ol' days if you didn't have native rip support, you could substitute rip files for ans files and move your ans files to asc files. This would give you default rip with fallback to ansi in the case of missing rip/ans files. Never saw a rip client without ANSI support.

Yes, I don't think I said RIP clients don't have ANSI support..?

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Yes, I don't think I said RIP clients don't have ANSI support..?

That wasn't the implication, only at the minimum they all support ANSI fallback from RIP and I haven't seen otherwise.

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On 17 Dec 2022, paulie420 said the following...

Well, just an FYI - there are several bbSes (and networks) that offer
LoRD w/ RIP. Fairly sure that DoorParty has a RIP option in RPG 1, and I've played using RIP at other bbSes, too... they're out there.

The easiest way to use RIP is with the newest (beta?) SyncTerm - you
have to create a ~/.syncterm/cache for any extra sound/files. If you run Windows, RipTel will get you connecting.

Black Flag bbS has two RIP-only bbSes; one uses RIP 1.5 and one uses RIP 3. (A Searchlight and a Mystic bbS.)
blackflag.acid.org:24 Searchlight RIP
blackflag.acid.org:23 Mystic RIP

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Well been using Netrunner this whole time. Going to have to finally give the one a try and probably re-enter my phone book. I didn't even realize that Mystic had a RIP option. I will have to check that out.

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Well been using Netrunner this whole time. Going to have to finally give the one a try and probably re-enter my phone book. I didn't even
realize that Mystic had a RIP option. I will have to check that out.

Yea, RIP is basically ASCII files that are converted by the terminal software - so Mystic has the capability of sending them; just like SIXEL gfx... problem is not a lot of people DESIGN RIP anym0re - bbSes like Black Flag that have been around since back in the day might have a RIP theme, but for the rest of us its a lot harder to get a theme put together.

Another bbS did it recently - gosh, is it... dangit - can't think of it. But, some new bbS put together a RIP theme that I was fairly impressed with...

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Well been using Netrunner this whole time. Going to have to finally give the one a try and probably re-enter my phone book. I didn't even
realize that Mystic had a RIP option. I will have to check that out.

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is there any good windows based rip graphics programs to make menus?


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is there any good windows based rip graphics programs to make menus?

I know PabloDraw can create .rip graphics. I am not sure how you get mystic to display .rip however? do you just save the graphics file as an .asc and SyncTerm will display it properly? If someone could explain that part of it I would appreciate it.


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Re: Re: Door games w/ graphical terminal clients
By: MaNDaRaX to Utopian Galt on Wed Dec 21 2022 10:44 pm

I know PabloDraw can create .rip graphics. I am not sure how you get mystic to display .rip however? do you just save the graphics file as an .asc and SyncTerm will display it properly? If someone could explain that part of it I would appreciate it.

I don't know about Mystic, but for Synchronet, RIP files are saved with a .rip extension. And the filename extension doesn't matter for SyncTerm - SyncTerm isn't even aware of the filenames used on the BBS system. Synchronet will choose the file to display based on what terminal it detects and send that to the user.

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I don't know about Mystic, but for Synchronet, RIP files are saved with
a .rip extension. And the filename extension doesn't matter for

Yeah, I tried saving them as .rip files. but mystic did not seem to show the file when requested. So not sure what you have to do in mystic to get it to show a .rip


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Re: Re: Door games w/ graphical terminal clients
By: MaNDaRaX to Nightfox on Thu Dec 22 2022 06:08 pm

Yeah, I tried saving them as .rip files. but mystic did not seem to show the file when requested. So not sure what you have to do in mystic to get it to show a .rip

I just did a quick search through Mystic's list of features on the Mystic web site:
http://www.mysticbbs.com/features.html

I don't see a mention of RIP graphics there.. My guess would be Mystic doesn't support RIP, but I don't know for sure.

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I don't see a mention of RIP graphics there.. My guess would be Mystic doesn't support RIP, but I don't know for sure.

I am just basing trying to do it on that Mystic would pass on the rip file to a terminal program capable of displaying it. I thought someone had mentioned they have seen it done with Mystic. However, maybe I understood their statements incorrectly.


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Yea, RIP is basically ASCII files that are converted by the terminal software - so Mystic has the capability of sending them; just like SIXE gfx... problem is not a lot of people DESIGN RIP anym0re - bbSes like

is there any good windows based rip graphics programs to make menus?

I know of TombART for DOS; dunno about more current options - that was one of the issues w/ adding RIP graphics.

I do know, however, that there have been some cool RIP art releases in 2o22 - I wonder what those artists are using.



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On 22 Dec 2022 at 04:48p, Nightfox pondered and said...

I don't see a mention of RIP graphics there.. My guess would be Mystic doesn't support RIP, but I don't know for sure.

To my knowledge that's correct...

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I'm pretty sure you can. In the 90s, I remember trying a RIP terminal
on some BBSes that didn't have any RIP menus or anything, but RIP-supporting doors (such as Legend of the Red Dragon) could detect RIP capabilities in the user's terminal and RIP would work in the door.

Neat. I'll have to do some testing, as I'd love to offer LoRD w/ RIP at 2o - but not system-wide... worth checking out.

Remember some of the old doors that had graphical clients? The blog 'Break into chat' wrote about some of these - I remember playing one or too using their own terminal softwares to get those graphics.



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Re: Re: Door games w/ graphical terminal clients
By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Fri Dec 16 2022 05:49 pm

Remember some of the old doors that had graphical clients? The blog 'Break into chat' wrote about some of these - I remember playing one or too using their own terminal softwares to get those graphics.

Yeah, if I remember right, Land of Devastation (or maybe it was another door) had graphical EGA and VGA terminal programs you could use to get graphics from those door games. Those were interesting.

Also, years ago, I found out that Operation: Overkill II has some extended sound support, and SyncTerm supports that.. If you play Operation: Overkill II with SyncTerm, when the game asks you if you're using an OOII terminal, try answering Yes, and you should hear a sound when you first enter the game.

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Remember some of the old doors that had graphical clients? The blog 'Break

The two that come to mind are, The Pit, and Operation Overkill II. OOII also used ansi music I think, although the terminal had some kind of digitised sounds, wav I think.

Some of the terminal software let you install extra transfer protocols, and
you could insert the game terminals as download protocols and just fire them off when you selected the door to play.

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Also, years ago, I found out that Operation: Overkill II has some
extended sound support, and SyncTerm supports that.. If you play Operation: Overkill II with SyncTerm, when the game asks you if you're using an OOII terminal, try answering Yes, and you should hear a sound when you first enter the game.

Ahhhh, neat. Thanks for that little tidbit; I enj0y all the things that aren't standard telnet - I'll try it out.



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On 16 Dec 2022, paulie420 said the following...

Neat. I'll have to do some testing, as I'd love to offer LoRD w/ RIP at
2o - but not system-wide... worth checking out.
pAULIE42o

If you guys get his going I would love to see this return to the scene. Back when this was out I was too lazy as a kid looks for the warez boards and only played ANSI as a result. Would love to see what I missed out on.

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Neat. I'll have to do some testing, as I'd love to offer LoRD w/ RIP 2o - but not system-wide... worth checking out.

If you guys get his going I would love to see this return to the scene. Back when this was out I was too lazy as a kid looks for the warez
boards and only played ANSI as a result. Would love to see what I
missed out on.

Well, just an FYI - there are several bbSes (and networks) that offer LoRD w/ RIP. Fairly sure that DoorParty has a RIP option in RPG 1, and I've played using RIP at other bbSes, too... they're out there.

The easiest way to use RIP is with the newest (beta?) SyncTerm - you have to create a ~/.syncterm/cache for any extra sound/files. If you run Windows, RipTel will get you connecting.

Black Flag bbS has two RIP-only bbSes; one uses RIP 1.5 and one uses RIP 3. (A Searchlight and a Mystic bbS.)
blackflag.acid.org:24 Searchlight RIP
blackflag.acid.org:23 Mystic RIP

:P



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