• Re: Rick Beato

    From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Tue May 16 13:44:00 2023
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    There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips
    from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in
    terms of what he speaks about.


    I love his "what makes this song great" series. Dissecting a song
    instrument by instrument really makes the musicianship show through.




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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 17 21:31:01 2023
    On 16 May 2023 at 06:44a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    I love his "what makes this song great" series. Dissecting a song instrument by instrument really makes the musicianship show through.

    I have enjoyed those also, gee there's a few of us here watching him. I wonder what other channels we like?

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sun May 14 19:44:22 2023
    There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in terms of what he speaks about.

    He put up a clip with some comments about AI and the impact on musicians etc. that I thought was good.

    Would recommend it as a watch. https://youtu.be/-eAQOhDNLt4

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  • From Hawk@21:2/158 to Avon on Sun May 14 04:16:42 2023
    There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in terms of what he speaks about.

    Oh Yea Rick Beato is fantastic! I've watched tons of his guitar videos.
    Cool that you follow him.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Avon on Sun May 14 08:16:43 2023
    There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in terms of what he speaks about.

    I also like Rick's content. I love his "what makes this song great" series. He's a producer but in actuality is a phenomenal musician in his own right...the way he understands music and can break it down is a sight to behold.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to esc on Mon May 15 03:37:45 2023
    On 14 May 2023 at 01:16a, esc pondered and said...

    I also like Rick's content. I love his "what makes this song great" series. He's a producer but in actuality is a phenomenal musician in his own right...the way he understands music and can break it down is a
    sight to behold.

    I need to watch some of those :)

    My viewing is a bit eclectic and I don't follow all of his stuff but whenever I do dip my toe in the pond I like what I find :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Hawk on Mon May 15 03:38:18 2023
    On 13 May 2023 at 09:16p, Hawk pondered and said...

    Oh Yea Rick Beato is fantastic! I've watched tons of his guitar videos.
    Cool that you follow him.

    Any others you'd recommend Hawk? :)

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Avon on Sun May 14 15:21:00 2023
    Hello Avon!

    ** On Sunday 14.05.23 - 12:44, Avon wrote to All:

    There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in terms of what he speaks about.

    He put up a clip with some comments about AI and the impact on musicians etc. that I thought was good.

    Would recommend it as a watch. https://youtu.be/-eAQOhDNLt4

    For now, "sound a-likes" get away with capitalizing on
    mimicking if the material is presented as a parody. Dunno if
    labeling something as "Fake AI [insert artist's name] will be
    enough to qualify as "parody".

    If/when the law steps up and recognizes that we own the sound
    of our voices, then this Fake Drake/Cobain stuff for the
    purposes of profit will be muted.

    Rick Beato thinks that listeners won't care, and compared the
    trend to tape machines being replaced by digital recorders, and
    speaker/amps replaced by a simple laptop - but that's
    different. That gear is simply the medium that delivers the
    music material. But creating SOURCE material that intentially
    capitalizes on an existing artists "sound" and style for the
    purposes of profit, without the original person's permission,
    should be prohibited. People SHOULD care.

    Beato makes a brief comment on someone's creation of an
    artifical female singer's voice and that creator's stipulation
    that the voice is free to use by anyone as long as the creator
    gets 50% of the income.

    Maybe this is just an exploratory fad. If the fake or AI
    material is labeled as such, maybe the public will grow tired
    of it after a while and yearn for real music and real artists.



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  • From Dunsen@21:2/150 to Avon on Sun May 14 13:39:22 2023
    Hey! I watched this guy before. He has some good theory videos that I like. 12Tone mentions him a few times as well. (Personally like 12Tone over Beato, but they're both good.)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Ogg on Mon May 15 18:36:44 2023
    On 14 May 2023 at 08:21a, Ogg pondered and said...

    Rick Beato thinks that listeners won't care, and compared the
    trend to tape machines being replaced by digital recorders, and speaker/amps replaced by a simple laptop - but that's
    different. That gear is simply the medium that delivers the
    music material. But creating SOURCE material that intentially capitalizes on an existing artists "sound" and style for the
    purposes of profit, without the original person's permission,
    should be prohibited. People SHOULD care.

    good points and ones that I agree with.

    Beato makes a brief comment on someone's creation of an
    artifical female singer's voice and that creator's stipulation
    that the voice is free to use by anyone as long as the creator
    gets 50% of the income.

    the trick becomes how does the artist even know their likeness (in sound terms) is being used?

    Maybe this is just an exploratory fad. If the fake or AI
    material is labeled as such, maybe the public will grow tired
    of it after a while and yearn for real music and real artists.

    If what it sounds like sounds artificial then perhaps yes, but the alarm bells for all is that this stuff sounds very close to the original artist..

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Avon on Mon May 15 16:09:00 2023
    Hello Avon!

    Beato makes a brief comment on someone's creation of an
    artifical female singer's voice and that creator's stipulation
    that the voice is free to use by anyone as long as the creator
    gets 50% of the income.

    the trick becomes how does the artist even know their
    likeness (in sound terms) is being used?

    Yes.. that is tricky. Perhaps the voice could be used by
    cooperations in commercials or new songs ..in which case, then
    the awareness of it would eventually spread and reach the
    "owner's" ears. Even if it were used in new songs and labelled
    as an AI-voice, then that would be the invitational vector to
    begin investigations. Dishonest and unscrupulous people might
    be able to get away with commandeering an AI-voice for their
    own uses, but if the matter reaches litigation, they could be
    faced with damages retroactively.


    Maybe this is just an exploratory fad. If the fake or AI
    material is labeled as such, maybe the public will grow
    tired of it after a while and yearn for real music and
    real artists.

    If what it sounds like sounds artificial then perhaps yes,
    but the alarm bells for all is that this stuff sounds very
    close to the original artist..

    Ah... if it is very close to the original artist, then that
    voice and the material will not be able to hide. The original
    artist's name will be essential on the artificial product for
    successful promotion. And if that name is part of the product,
    the original artist will eventually find out - and litigations
    will ensue. Existing laws already exist that other people
    can't arbitarily use anyone else's name on their product
    without permission. Even using "Fake Drake" or "Drake-AI" tied
    to the audio item is swimming in dangerous waters.

    We have rights to our likeness, and that includes what we look
    like and sound like.

    When the self-title album KLAATU first came out, the talk was
    that it was a Beatles come-back. The band intentionally
    avoided the press and public performances for a long time.
    "The band elected to include no photos, no individual musician
    credits, and no biographical information in the album package"

    The Beatles sound-alike was not intentional, but the Beatles
    masquerade was started by a journalist in the UK and "not
    denied" by the record company in the US.


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