• Starship

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sun Apr 16 09:27:14 2023
    First test launch looks to be 8am EST on 17 April. I'm looking forward to it.

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Avon on Sat Apr 15 16:44:28 2023
    On 16 Apr 2023, Avon said the following...

    First test launch looks to be 8am EST on 17 April. I'm looking forward
    to it.

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    Is that a convenient time for you to watch it live?

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to ogg on Mon Apr 17 12:08:47 2023
    On 15 Apr 2023 at 04:44p, ogg pondered and said...

    Is that a convenient time for you to watch it live?

    It's not great, coverage starts tonight at midnight my time and runs until about 2.30am... assuming it all happens and runs according to plans :)

    But at least it's not happening while I am at work.

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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:3/179 to Avon on Mon Apr 17 16:28:04 2023
    First test launch looks to be 8am EST on 17 April. I'm looking forward
    to it.

    I must admit I do enjoy watching his rockets blow up LOL I love those shockwaves hit the cameras ;)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Michael Borthwick on Mon Apr 17 19:45:08 2023
    On 17 Apr 2023 at 04:28p, Michael Borthwick pondered and said...

    First test launch looks to be 8am EST on 17 April. I'm looking forwar to it.

    I must admit I do enjoy watching his rockets blow up LOL I love those shockwaves hit the cameras ;)

    It looks like my late night is getting later, I thought it was a midnight launch for me but it looks to be a 1am start :)

    Yeah he's just hoping it doesn't go bang on the launch pad, but I do think the chances are rather high it will go bang at some stage, but hopefully not too early in the 2.5 hours of the test.

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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:3/179 to Avon on Mon Apr 17 18:05:24 2023
    think the chances are rather high it will go bang at some stage, but hopefully not too early in the 2.5 hours of the test.

    Well just think the earlier it goes bang the quicker you get to bed ;)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Michael Borthwick on Mon Apr 17 22:11:13 2023
    Well just think the earlier it goes bang the quicker you get to bed ;)

    I'm hoping it does not go bang too quick :)

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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:3/179 to Avon on Mon Apr 17 22:22:07 2023
    It looks like my late night is getting later, I thought it was a midnight

    T+5 and we're not streaming yet. Hopefully it kicks off soon, my eyelids are being held open by matches atm...

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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:3/179 to Avon on Mon Apr 17 23:21:25 2023
    I'm hoping it does not go bang too quick :)

    Well that was disappointing :(

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Michael Borthwick on Tue Apr 18 13:14:50 2023
    On 17 Apr 2023 at 11:21p, Michael Borthwick pondered and said...

    I'm hoping it does not go bang too quick :)

    Well that was disappointing :(

    Yep, but not totally unexpected. If it's going to bang at some stage they want it to be in the air first :)

    I got to bed around 1.30am my local time, today at work is a struggle.

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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:3/179 to Avon on Tue Apr 18 11:54:20 2023
    I got to bed around 1.30am my local time, today at work is a struggle.

    When I was 18 I could dance the night away at a nightclub in town until we got kicked out at 5am. A few hours sleep and I was ready for lunch...

    Now I stay up till 11ish and i'm a complete wreck for the rest of the next day :(

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Michael Borthwick on Wed Apr 19 08:48:58 2023
    On 18 Apr 2023 at 11:54a, Michael Borthwick pondered and said...

    When I was 18 I could dance the night away at a nightclub in town until
    we got kicked out at 5am. A few hours sleep and I was ready for lunch...

    Now I stay up till 11ish and i'm a complete wreck for the rest of the
    next day :(

    Yep same here... I've some zz now so am feeling better... looks like next attempt will be around 1am-2am on Friday morning my time

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Michael Borthwick on Sun Apr 23 17:05:30 2023
    On 21 Apr 2023 at 11:01a, Michael Borthwick pondered and said...

    I didn't stay up to see it but I hear it went off with a bang! ;)

    I saw a great graphic that displayed the flight path after launch and it looked like a drunk blowfly :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Michael Borthwick on Sun Apr 23 17:06:58 2023
    On 21 Apr 2023 at 12:38p, Michael Borthwick pondered and said...

    Apparently the stage 2 wouldn't disconnect from the stage 1 which
    probably didn't help.

    Yeah stage 2 separation was an issue for sure. Scott Manley did a good review of what happened over on YT - https://youtu.be/w8q24QLXixo

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Sun Apr 23 17:08:08 2023
    On 22 Apr 2023 at 10:29a, Vorlon pondered and said...

    From the video and reports I've seen they had some engines decide to not work. The thing left a big whole in the launchpad, and concreate was seen flying around... Bet some of that went up into the rocket making a few dints into the plumbing.

    I think the launchpad (stage 0 as the call it) is going to be a bigger issue than the rockets, the damage the test launch inflicted shows there's some real work to be done and issues addressed before the next one flies.

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195.5 to Avon on Sun Apr 23 23:24:46 2023

    On Sunday April 23 2023, Avon said to Vorlon:

    The thing left a big whole in the launchpad, and concreate
    was seen flying around... Bet some of that went up into the rocket
    making a few dints into the plumbing.

    I think the launchpad (stage 0 as the call it) is going to be a bigger issue than the rockets, the damage the test launch inflicted shows
    there's some real work to be done and issues addressed before the next
    one flies.

    I read they have a couple of options.

    1. Flame trench.
    2. More water to supress things.

    They have nothing much of either at this stage.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Mon Apr 24 19:45:28 2023
    On 23 Apr 2023 at 04:24p, Vorlon pondered and said...

    I read they have a couple of options.

    1. Flame trench.
    2. More water to supress things.

    They have nothing much of either at this stage.

    Did they have any water suppression? Not sure if they did.

    I think there proximity to the tank farm is also in question when you see the damage the flying concrete etc. did to some of those tanks too.

    Seems (in hindsight) strange they thought the most powerful blast off could be handled by the config on the ground they put in place.

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195.5 to Avon on Tue Apr 25 21:31:03 2023
    Hi Avon,

    On Sunday April 23 2023, Avon said to Vorlon:

    From the video and reports I've seen they had some engines decide to
    not work. The thing left a big whole in the launchpad, and concreate
    was seen flying around... Bet some of that went up into the rocket
    making a few dints into the plumbing.

    I think the launchpad (stage 0 as the call it) is going to be a bigger issue than the rockets, the damage the test launch inflicted shows
    there's some real work to be done and issues addressed before the next
    one flies.

    Want a job as a Concrete fixer?! The video you linked to in your last
    message show's just how big that hole was... $-(

    Thet are going to have to look at a diffent way to fix that hole making
    device! #-;

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Wed Apr 26 02:40:37 2023
    On 25 Apr 2023 at 02:31p, Vorlon pondered and said...

    Want a job as a Concrete fixer?! The video you linked to in your last message show's just how big that hole was... $-(
    Thet are going to have to look at a diffent way to fix that hole making device! #-;

    I agree, it's a mess and I'd be suprised if it's seen to be a quick fix. I think they had some metal plates they planned to install below the launch mount but had ran out of time. Flame diversion will be key to getting this sorted.

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195.5 to Avon on Wed Apr 26 18:32:22 2023
    Hio Avon,

    On Tuesday April 25 2023, Avon said to Vorlon:

    Want a job as a Concrete fixer?! The video you linked to in your last
    message show's just how big that hole was... $-( Thet are going to
    have to look at a diffent way to fix that hole making device! #-;

    I agree, it's a mess and I'd be suprised if it's seen to be a quick fix.

    Just back a truck or two up with dirt and concrete and tip away! $-)

    I think they had some metal plates they planned to install below the
    launch mount but had ran out of time. Flame diversion will be key to getting this sorted.

    They should have got that done. It might have saved the launch pad from so
    much damage... But when you look at it, they didn't expect it to even get
    off the pad, so it was a huge win but at the same time a fail.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Thu Apr 27 01:35:06 2023
    On 26 Apr 2023 at 11:32a, Vorlon pondered and said...

    They should have got that done. It might have saved the launch pad from
    so much damage... But when you look at it, they didn't expect it to even get off the pad, so it was a huge win but at the same time a fail.

    I think they always hoped it would fly and the vibe I picked up was to clear the tower vs going boom would be seen as a win. But how long until the boom was the variable at play. I didn't expect the flight to run 90 mins but I was surprised stage 2 separation didn't occur.

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195.5 to Avon on Fri Apr 28 18:59:08 2023
    Hi Avon,

    On Wednesday April 26 2023, Avon said to Vorlon:

    They should have got that done. It might have saved the launch pad
    from so much damage... But when you look at it, they didn't expect it
    to even get off the pad, so it was a huge win but at the same time a
    fail.

    I think they always hoped it would fly and the vibe I picked up was to clear the tower vs going boom would be seen as a win. But how long until the boom was the variable at play.

    It was a 'test' flight, so anythhing past the tower is a win. At least there was no expensive cargo onboard!

    I didn't expect the flight to run 90 mins but I was surprised stage 2 separation didn't occur.

    Yep stage 2 at the end was like watching a baby roll around on the floor!.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Fri Apr 28 22:25:34 2023
    On 28 Apr 2023 at 11:59a, Vorlon pondered and said...

    It was a 'test' flight, so anythhing past the tower is a win. At least there was no expensive cargo onboard!

    Do you watch the YouTube channel WAI? He's quite good at covering Starship stuff... I also watch Everyday Astronaut too.

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195.5 to Avon on Sat Apr 29 16:17:56 2023
    Hi Avon,

    On Friday April 28 2023, Avon said to Vorlon:

    It was a 'test' flight, so anythhing past the tower is a win. At least
    there was no expensive cargo onboard!

    Do you watch the YouTube channel WAI? He's quite good at covering
    Starship stuff... I also watch Everyday Astronaut too.

    No that's one channel I'm not following. I'm a fan of
    https://arstechnica.com/ and when they cover spacex, is when I'll watch a
    video or two.

    There is a issue with my youtube account/subscriptions in that I'm not
    getting notifications for new content, so I'm having to rememeber to go
    there at least once a week... Then the issue of getting lost in all the
    content comes up.... #-/


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Sun Apr 30 00:33:39 2023
    On 29 Apr 2023 at 09:17a, Vorlon pondered and said...

    There is a issue with my youtube account/subscriptions in that I'm not getting notifications for new content, so I'm having to rememeber to go there at least once a week... Then the issue of getting lost in all the content comes up.... #-/

    I think when you sub to a channel there seems to be a number of options as to how many alerts and how often you want to get them... at least I think that's the case?

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195.5 to Avon on Sun Apr 30 17:50:36 2023
    Hi Avon,

    On Saturday April 29 2023, Avon said to Vorlon:

    There is a issue with my youtube account/subscriptions in that I'm not
    getting notifications for new content, so I'm having to rememeber to
    go there at least once a week... Then the issue of getting lost in all
    the content comes up.... #-/

    I think when you sub to a channel there seems to be a number of options
    as to how many alerts and how often you want to get them... at least I think that's the case?

    When I login I can see what channel's I'm subscribed to that have new
    content. The subscribed bell is on for them all with the "all" option.

    Unless I'm not thinking right, shouldn't I also receive a email when the channel has new content?

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Vorlon on Sun Apr 30 04:14:13 2023
    When I login I can see what channel's I'm subscribed to that have new content. The subscribed bell is on for them all with the "all" option.

    Unless I'm not thinking right, shouldn't I also receive a email when the channel has new content?

    \/orlon
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    Stephen

    I've never received an email for any subscribed channel with new content.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Mon May 1 01:35:13 2023
    On 30 Apr 2023 at 10:50a, Vorlon pondered and said...

    When I login I can see what channel's I'm subscribed to that have new content. The subscribed bell is on for them all with the "all" option.

    Unless I'm not thinking right, shouldn't I also receive a email when the channel has new content?

    I'm honestly not sure.. I can't say I've seen email alerts but then again I may not be checking the email I had set up with my YouTube account.

    [time passes]

    Nope can't see anything here..

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195.5 to ogg on Tue May 2 18:18:53 2023
    Hi Ogg,

    On Saturday April 29 2023, Ogg said to Vorlon:

    When I login I can see what channel's I'm subscribed to that have new
    content. The subscribed bell is on for them all with the "all" option.
    Unless I'm not thinking right, shouldn't I also receive a email when
    the channel has new content?
    \/orlon aka Stephen

    I've never received an email for any subscribed channel with new
    content.
    Oh, OK. I had it in my mind that a email wold be sent when new content was
    in one of the channel's.


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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195.5 to Avon on Tue May 2 18:20:13 2023
    Hi Avon,

    On Sunday April 30 2023, Avon said to Vorlon:

    On 30 Apr 2023 at 10:50a, Vorlon pondered and said...

    When I login I can see what channel's I'm subscribed to that have new
    content. The subscribed bell is on for them all with the "all" option.
    Unless I'm not thinking right, shouldn't I also receive a email when
    the channel has new content?

    I'm honestly not sure.. I can't say I've seen email alerts but then
    again I may not be checking the email I had set up with my YouTube
    account.

    [time passes]

    Nope can't see anything here..
    Oh.. I just thought that they would send out one when new content was
    uploaded to the channel.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Wed May 3 03:04:39 2023
    On 02 May 2023 at 11:20a, Vorlon pondered and said...

    Nope can't see anything here..
    Oh.. I just thought that they would send out one when new content was uploaded to the channel.

    It's not a silly idea but nope, looks like the app will notify you but that's about it.

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195.5 to Avon on Wed May 3 17:48:53 2023
    Hi Avon,

    On Tuesday May 02 2023, Avon said to Vorlon:

    Nope can't see anything here.. Oh.. I just thought that they would
    send out one when new content was uploaded to the channel.

    It's not a silly idea but nope, looks like the app will notify you but that's about it.

    https://arstechnica.com have released a story:

    "Elon Musk provides detailed review of Starship's first launch and
    what's next"

    "Weirdly, we did not see evidence of the rock tornado actually damaging engines."



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