• avat-in and out

    From poison@poison@MEMTW.remove-11ak-this to All on Mon May 11 22:09:19 2020
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    What exactly are the avat-in and out doing exactly? Updating avatars between all the bbs? It seems to take my vm to a crawl when it runs. Is there any reason to run this 24 times a day or can this be set to run at midnight?

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-geh-this to poison on Mon May 11 22:11:51 2020
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    Re: avat-in and out
    By: poison to All on Mon May 11 2020 03:09 pm

    What exactly are the avat-in and out doing exactly?

    Imports and exports avatars:
    http://wiki.synchro.net/module:avatars

    Updating avatars betwee all the bbs?

    Yup.

    It seems to take my vm to a crawl when it runs.

    That's odd.

    Is there any
    reason to run this 24 times a day or can this be set to run at midnight?

    You can certainly run it less frequently, or not at all if you like.


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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@PALANT.remove-12b1-this to poison on Tue May 12 03:19:00 2020
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    poison wrote to All <=-

    What exactly are the avat-in and out doing exactly? Updating
    avatars between all the bbs? It seems to take my vm to a crawl
    when it runs. Is there any reason to run this 24 times a day or
    can this be set to run at midnight?

    I can see no reason to run it 24 times a day, even if it doesn't
    load down a system. Mine runs once a day.



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  • From poison@poison@1:229/424.remove-80x-this to Digital Man on Tue May 12 04:51:45 2020
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    Re: avat-in and out
    By: Digital Man to poison on Mon May 11 2020 03:11 pm

    It seems to take my vm to a crawl when it runs.
    That's odd.
    It's not that odd if you knew what I was running the bbs on now. 8-) Synology DS216+II NAS with 8gb of ram as a VM. Everything seems to run fine until this event runs and then it crawls. Since you said its fine to change the frequency I will just run it at midnight. Thanks!

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-80x-this to poison on Tue May 12 03:58:41 2020
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    Re: avat-in and out
    By: poison to Digital Man on Mon May 11 2020 09:51 pm

    Re: avat-in and out
    By: Digital Man to poison on Mon May 11 2020 03:11 pm

    It seems to take my vm to a crawl when it runs.
    That's odd.
    It's not that odd if you knew what I was running the bbs on now. 8-) Synology DS216+II NAS with 8gb of ram as a VM. Everything seems to run fine until this event runs and then it crawls. Since you said its fine to change the frequency I will just run it at midnight. Thanks!

    It's odd because that task is not very intensive. I suspect you're going to see other Synchronet things/events taxing that VM as well. :-(

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  • From poison@poison@1:229/424.remove-jvo-this to Digital Man on Tue May 12 06:29:51 2020
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    Re: avat-in and out
    By: Digital Man to poison on Mon May 11 2020 08:58 pm

    The other events seem fine when they run. I think its anything disk intensive is spiking the vm CPU until it finishes. Mail doesn't bother it and nightly game maint doesn't bother it except for the one for usurper. I don't expect it to break any speed records as the cpu in the NAS is a lowend dual core celeron. 8-) It is kind of cool that it works though.

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-jvo-this to poison on Tue May 12 05:01:20 2020
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    Re: avat-in and out
    By: poison to Digital Man on Mon May 11 2020 11:29 pm

    Re: avat-in and out
    By: Digital Man to poison on Mon May 11 2020 08:58 pm

    The other events seem fine when they run. I think its anything disk intensive is spiking the vm CPU until it finishes. Mail doesn't bother it and nightly game maint doesn't bother it except for the one for usurper. I don't expect it to break any speed records as the cpu in the NAS is a lowend dual core celeron. 8-) It is kind of cool that it works though.

    Well if anything, I would either AVAT-IN (import) to possibly use a lot of I/O (scanning the msgbase) but not AVAT-OUT (export). And even AVAT-IN is only going to scan *new* messages that were imported since the last time it ran. So yeah, doesn't really make sense.

    digital man

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  • From poison@poison@1:229/424.remove-l23-this to Digital Man on Tue May 12 07:52:10 2020
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    Re: avat-in and out
    By: Digital Man to poison on Mon May 11 2020 10:01 pm

    It really looks like it runs through a huge list. The last one said it imported 3341

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-5es-this to poison on Tue May 12 09:16:15 2020
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    Re: avat-in and out
    By: poison to Digital Man on Tue May 12 2020 12:52 am

    Re: avat-in and out
    By: Digital Man to poison on Mon May 11 2020 10:01 pm

    It really looks like it runs through a huge list. The last one said it imported 3341

    1. that import (not export).

    2. that sounds like it's re-importing the entire message base?
    double-check your the [avatars] section of your data/subs/syncdata.ini file, the "import_ptr" value should be updated every time the avatars.js import event run and the next run should read that value and skip all the previously scanned messages. There is a debug log line output from avatars.js as well which may be helpful "import_ptr = x last_msg = y". These values and the values in the syncdata.ini file and the actual message numbers (e.g. last_msg value as displayed with the "smbutil s" command) of your syncdata sub-board would be helpful in getting to bottom of it.

    digital man

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  • From Rampage@rampage@SESTAR.remove-2pv-this to Gamgee on Tue May 12 15:08:10 2020
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    Re: Re: avat-in and out
    By: Gamgee to poison on Mon May 11 2020 20:19:00


    What exactly are the avat-in and out doing exactly? Updating
    avatars between all the bbs? It seems to take my vm to a crawl
    when it runs. Is there any reason to run this 24 times a day or
    can this be set to run at midnight?

    Gamgee> I can see no reason to run it 24 times a day, even if it doesn't
    Gamgee> load down a system. Mine runs once a day.

    it just depends on how up-to-date you want them to be on your system...

    kinda like QWKnet polling... in the synchronet areas that are gated between FTN and QWKnets, i regularly get new posts on the FTN side sooner than from the QWKnetworking side... this because FTN is running ASAP and passing the mail on as soon as it is ready whereas QWKnetworking is more like end users pulling the mail from a bbs for offline use... sure, the QWKnet polling can be increased for more lively traffic flow but that means more, possibly empty, polling...


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  • From Rampage@rampage@SESTAR.remove-2pv-this to poison on Tue May 12 15:18:01 2020
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    Re: avat-in and out
    By: poison to Digital Man on Tue May 12 2020 00:52:10


    poison> It really looks like it runs through a huge list. The last one
    poison> said it imported 3341

    that number should drop quite a lot the next time the event runs... the avatars are not updated all that often...

    the above would seem to be like a first time import after just starting the sbbs distributed database message area... the avatar import should keep up with the last message it imported from and continue from that message the next time the import is run...

    that message base is also where the synchronet BBS list and the dating matcher door are updated from ;)


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  • From poison@poison@1:229/424.remove-nuq-this to Digital Man on Tue May 12 14:14:17 2020
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    Re: avat-in and out
    By: Digital Man to poison on Tue May 12 2020 02:16 am

    Ok thanks will check that.

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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@1:123/115.remove-nuq-this to Rampage on Tue May 12 15:57:00 2020
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    Rampage wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: avat-in and out

    What exactly are the avat-in and out doing exactly? Updating
    avatars between all the bbs? It seems to take my vm to a crawl
    when it runs. Is there any reason to run this 24 times a day or
    can this be set to run at midnight?

    Gamgee> I can see no reason to run it 24 times a day, even if it
    doesn't load down a system. Mine runs once a day.

    it just depends on how up-to-date you want them to be on your
    system...

    Yeah... I think once per day is plenty.

    kinda like QWKnet polling... in the synchronet areas that are
    gated between FTN and QWKnets, i regularly get new posts on the
    FTN side sooner than from the QWKnetworking side... this because
    FTN is running ASAP and passing the mail on as soon as it is
    ready whereas QWKnetworking is more like end users pulling the
    mail from a bbs for offline use... sure, the QWKnet polling can
    be increased for more lively traffic flow but that means more,
    possibly empty, polling...

    Yep, I see that too. I have my QWK polling at 12/day which seems
    to be fine.



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