• Text.dat Question

    From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-oi7-this to Digital Man on Mon Jun 1 20:10:35 2020
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    To: Digital Man
    Hi Dm. Could you explain this line for me? Thanks. The % areas only please.

    868 "\1h%s\1n\1g \1(%u\1) %u %c in multinode chat"\ 712 NodeActionMultiChat
    869 "%.0s%.0s%.0s channel %u"

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  • From Nelgin@nelgin@EOTLBBS.remove-ruv-this to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 2 00:10:56 2020
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    The wrote:
    Hi Dm. Could you explain this line for me? Thanks. The % areas only please.

    868 "\1h%s\1n\1g \1(%u\1) %u %c in multinode chat"\ 712 NodeActionMultiChat
    869 "%.0s%.0s%.0s channel %u"

    $ The Millionaire $

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    %s is a string
    %u is an unsigned decimal integer
    %c is a character
    .0 is general percision, when used with 0 it's the maxlmum number of
    characters to be printed.

    You can view a reference of all the differnet printf options by looking here
    or any place that has a printf reference.

    https://www.tutorialspoint.com/c_standard_library/c_function_printf.htm

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-5j-this to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 2 00:28:53 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jun 01 2020 01:10 pm

    Hi Dm. Could you explain this line for me? Thanks. The % areas only please.

    868 "\1h%s\1n\1g \1(%u\1) %u %c in multinode chat"\ 712 NodeActionMultiChat
    869 "%.0s%.0s%.0s channel %u"

    Here you go:
    sprintf(str,text[NodeActionMain+node->action]
    ,useron.alias
    ,useron.level
    ,getage(&cfg,useron.birth)
    ,useron.sex
    ,useron.comp
    ,useron.ipaddr
    ,unixtodstr(&cfg,useron.firston,firston)
    ,node->aux&0xff
    ,node->connection
    );


    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-s8h-this to Digital Man on Mon Jun 8 22:21:13 2020
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    To: Digital Man

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jun 01 2020 01:10 pm

    Here you go:
    sprintf(str,text[NodeActionMain+node->action]
    ,useron.alias
    ,useron.level
    ,getage(&cfg,useron.birth)
    ,useron.sex
    ,useron.comp
    ,useron.ipaddr
    ,unixtodstr(&cfg,useron.firston,firston)
    ,node->aux&0xff
    ,node->connection
    );

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #8:
    Derek Smalls: Making a big thing out of it would have been a good idea. Norco, CA WX: 80.5°F, 38.0% humidity, 15 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    Thanks DM as always. After text.dat is completely edited to your own liking, do you have to convert the file before running it in Synchronet?

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-814-this to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 9 02:59:11 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jun 08 2020 03:21 pm

    Thanks DM as always. After text.dat is completely edited to your own liking, do you have to convert the file before running it in Synchronet?

    No, the text.dat doesn't need any conversion. Haven't you done this exercise before?

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@PARKAVE.remove-yuz-this to Digital Man on Tue Jun 9 11:13:27 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Mon Jun 08 2020 07:59 pm

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jun 08 2020 03:21 pm

    Thanks DM as always. After text.dat is completely edited to your own liking, do you have to convert the file before running it in Synchronet?

    No, the text.dat doesn't need any conversion. Haven't you done this exercise before?

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #10:
    Morris: I stand on the hill, not for thrill, but for the breath of a fresh kill Norco, CA WX: 80.2F, 9.0% humidity, 6 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    yes i have but everytime i run it, it either shows weird characters, freezes up at the bullseye or it just boots me off. i dont see what i am doing wrong here for some reason.

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-i01-this to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 9 03:51:19 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 04:13 am

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Mon Jun 08 2020 07:59 pm

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jun 08 2020 03:21 pm

    Thanks DM as always. After text.dat is completely edited to your own liking, do you have to convert the file before running it in Synchronet?

    No, the text.dat doesn't need any conversion. Haven't you done this exercise before?

    yes i have but everytime i run it, it either shows weird characters, freezes up at the bullseye or it just boots me off. i dont see what i am doing wrong here for some reason.

    Maybe revisit your entire approach:
    1. start with a stock text.dat
    2. change one line
    3. test that change
    4. goto 2

    digital man

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-k0-this to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 9 06:52:15 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 04:13:27

    yes i have but everytime i run it, it either shows weird characters, freezes up at the bullseye or
    it just boots me off. i dont see what i am doing wrong here for some reason.

    Likely you're still editing this file on your iPad and you can't / don't save it in the proper format. As has been said many times.

    Try a better editor. Maybe there's an actual programmer's text editor for IOS. Or, if you're still using one of Marisa's servers, maybe you can SSH in and use nano.

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-1fp-this to echicken on Tue Jun 9 11:57:13 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 04:13:27

    Likely you're still editing this file on your iPad and you can't / don't save it in the proper format. As has been said many times.

    Try a better editor. Maybe there's an actual programmer's text editor for IOS. Or, if you're still using one of Marisa's servers, maybe you can SSH in and use nano.

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    I asked her for an editor and she told me that I had to edit on my iPad and send it to the BBS later.

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-xgz-this to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 9 15:37:42 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Tue Jun 09 2020 04:57 am

    I asked her for an editor and she told me that I had to edit on my iPad and send it to the BBS later.

    You shouldn't have to do that. Linux distributions usually have an editor installed, like Nano, vi, vim, etc.. And I'm not sure if you could install an editor yourself, but you may be able to download source for an editor and build it, and just run it from your account directory on her system.

    Nightfox

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  • From DaiTengu@daitengu@ENSEMBLE.remove-110t-this to echicken on Tue Jun 9 21:21:53 2020
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    To: echicken
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Mon Jun 08 2020 11:52 pm

    IOS. Or, if you're still using one of Marisa's servers, maybe you can SSH in and use nano.


    I support this method. I've been a professional linux sysadmin/devops engineer for 20 years at this point, and nano is still my goto.

    emacs and vim can die in a fire.

    DaiTengu

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  • From DaiTengu@daitengu@ENSEMBLE.remove-110t-this to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 9 21:20:11 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 04:13 am

    yes i have but everytime i run it, it either shows weird characters, freezes up at the bullseye or it just boots me off. i dont see what i am doing wrong here for some reason.

    What you're doing wrong is using some weird non-standard editor via a non-standard method to do a thing that even experienced sysops try to avoid doing. (most text.dat lines can be modified via javascript)

    DaiTengu

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-i3u-this to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 9 22:47:12 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: DaiTengu to echicken on Tue Jun 09 2020 14:21:53

    I support this method. I've been a professional linux sysadmin/devops engineer for 20 years at this
    point, and nano is still my goto.

    I know people who are virulent and passionate about vim or emacs. I couldn't give less of a shit. My day to day editing is done in a GUI. The odd time I edit something from a shell, nano gets the job done. I too have been computing for some years now.

    Also, imagine walking a certain someone through using vim from their tablet.

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-hit-this to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 9 21:16:54 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: DaiTengu to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 09 2020 02:20 pm

    What you're doing wrong is using some weird non-standard editor via a non-standard method to do a thing that even experienced sysops try to avoid doing. (most text.dat lines can be modified via javascript)

    I've edited my text.dat with a plain text editor, but I've thought of moving toward having a JavaScript script change some of the lines on login so I don't have to mess with my text.dat directly. I'd think there would be a tradeoff for that though.. If you wanted to change a bunch of lines (or every line in text.dat as an extreme example), I wonder how long it would take for a JavaScript script to do that. I'm thinking it could add a momentary pause during the login process.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-hit-this to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 9 21:18:04 2020
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    To: DaiTengu
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: DaiTengu to echicken on Tue Jun 09 2020 02:21 pm

    I support this method. I've been a professional linux sysadmin/devops engineer for 20 years at this point, and nano is still my goto.

    emacs and vim can die in a fire.

    My first software developer job was in a total Linux environment, and I actually got to really like vim. I had eventually configured vim with some color schemes for a few programming languages and had some macros set up to do various things (insert Doxygen-style comments above functions, remove extra whitespace, etc.).

    Nightfox

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  • From DaiTengu@daitengu@ENSEMBLE.remove-vv-this to echicken on Tue Jun 9 22:58:05 2020
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    To: echicken
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: echicken to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 09 2020 03:47 pm

    I know people who are virulent and passionate about vim or emacs. I couldn't give less of a shit. My day to day editing is done in a GUI. The odd time I edit something from a shell, nano gets the job done. I too have been computing for some years now.

    I know enough to get around in vim and be comfortable with it if I need to, but given an option, I'll install nano. I started out with pico 25+ years ago (with the PINE e-mail reader).


    Also, imagine walking a certain someone through using vim from their tablet.

    I think I'd rather suck the end of a shotgun. I did my time on the helldesk doing user support, I don't want to ever go back to that.

    DaiTengu

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-flh-this to Digital Man on Tue Jun 9 23:34:23 2020
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    Hi. DM. How about converting text.dat to a JavaScript file instead and phase out text.dat? I’d vote for that one for president. I just cast my ballot already. :-)

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  • From DaiTengu@daitengu@ENSEMBLE.remove-706-this to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 00:56:55 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 09 2020 02:18 pm

    I support this method. I've been a professional linux
    sysadmin/devops engineer for 20 years at this point, and nano is
    still my goto.

    emacs and vim can die in a fire.

    My first software developer job was in a total Linux environment, and I actually got to really like vim. I had eventually configured vim with some color schemes for a few programming languages and had some macros set up to do various things (insert Doxygen-style comments above functions, remove extra whitespace, etc.).


    For anything more than a few lines of bash, I wound up using vscode. It's a surprisingly good and versatile IDE.

    DaiTengu

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-4sd-this to Digital Man on Wed Jun 10 01:50:59 2020
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    When you mean disturbing the syntax, you mean what?

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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@PALANT.remove-rbu-this to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 03:19:00 2020
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    DaiTengu wrote to echicken <=-

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Mon Jun 08 2020 11:52 pm

    IOS. Or, if you're still using one of Marisa's servers, maybe you can SSH in and use nano.

    I support this method. I've been a professional linux
    sysadmin/devops engineer for 20 years at this point, and nano is
    still my goto.

    I'm not a professional Linux admin, just a (fairly serious)
    hobbyist, and also use nano as my main editor.

    emacs and vim can die in a fire.

    But vim can be useful - it can do Ctrl-A codes in a text file!

    I'll bring the gasoline to the emacs fire.



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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@PALANT.remove-rbu-this to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 03:16:00 2020
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    To: DaiTengu
    DaiTengu wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 04:13 am

    yes i have but everytime i run it, it either shows weird characters, freezes up at the bullseye or it just boots me off. i dont see what i am doing wrong here for some reason.

    What you're doing wrong is using some weird non-standard editor
    via a non-standard method to do a thing that even experienced
    sysops try to avoid doing. (most text.dat lines can be modified
    via javascript)

    Yep, that's certainly the problem.

    He's been told this before, and just continues to ignore advice
    and recommendations. Not worth bothering with any more.



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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-jh6-this to The Millionaire on Wed Jun 10 06:11:23 2020
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    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 16:34:23

    Hi. DM. How about converting text.dat to a JavaScript file instead and phase
    out text.dat? I'd vote for that one for president. I just cast my ballot already. :-)

    Please explain what problems you think this will solve and how it will do so.

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-86k-this to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 05:42:29 2020
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    To: DaiTengu
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: DaiTengu to Nightfox on Tue Jun 09 2020 05:56 pm

    My first software developer job was in a total Linux environment,
    and I actually got to really like vim. I had eventually configured
    vim with some color schemes for a few programming languages and had
    some macros set up to do various things (insert Doxygen-style
    comments above functions, remove extra whitespace, etc.).

    For anything more than a few lines of bash, I wound up using vscode. It's a surprisingly good and versatile IDE.

    I actually like Visual Studio Code. Visual Studio Code didn't exist when I had my first software job in Linux though.. That was years before Microsoft started opening up to Linux.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-yt0-this to echicken on Wed Jun 10 05:49:21 2020
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    To: echicken
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 09 2020 11:11 pm

    Hi. DM. How about converting text.dat to a JavaScript file instead
    and phase out text.dat? I'd vote for that one for president. I just
    cast my ballot already. :-)

    Please explain what problems you think this will solve and how it will do so.

    That's weird. I see you're replying to a message from The Millionaire, but it seems I don't have his message in my messagebase.

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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-11nm-this to Nightfox on Thu Jun 11 02:36:00 2020
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    To: Nightfox
    On 06-09-20 14:18, Nightfox wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    My first software developer job was in a total Linux environment, and I actually got to really like vim. I had eventually configured vim with

    I've got nothing against vim, I just don't have the exposure need to learn it in detail, and that sort of thing is only done when there's no other option.

    some color schemes for a few programming languages and had some macros
    set up to do various things (insert Doxygen-style comments above functions, remove extra whitespace, etc.).

    That sounds pretty cool. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-11nm-this to DaiTengu on Thu Jun 11 02:33:00 2020
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    To: DaiTengu
    On 06-09-20 14:21, DaiTengu wrote to echicken <=-

    I support this method. I've been a professional linux sysadmin/devops engineer for 20 years at this point, and nano is still my goto.

    nano has been my editor of choice for years. Sure, in the right hands, vi(m) is pretty powerful. As for Emacs, what little exposure I've had to it just didn't make any sense to me.

    I started with pico, when Pine was standard on a lot of systems, then switched to nano when Pine fell out of favour due to licensing issues.


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-11nm-this to Gamgee on Thu Jun 11 02:40:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Gamgee
    On 06-09-20 20:19, Gamgee wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    I'm not a professional Linux admin, just a (fairly serious)
    hobbyist, and also use nano as my main editor.

    I've been both. I worked as a Linux admin for over a decade and I've been a serious Linux hobbyist for 25 years, and nano gets a LOT of use here. If I had a dollar for every time I've run nano, I'd be doing pretty well! :D

    emacs and vim can die in a fire.

    But vim can be useful - it can do Ctrl-A codes in a text file!

    I've heard a lot of good things about what you can do in vim, if you know how to tweak it.

    I'll bring the gasoline to the emacs fire.

    Haha, emacs never did anything for me either. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-11nm-this to Nightfox on Thu Jun 11 02:41:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    On 06-09-20 22:42, Nightfox wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    I actually like Visual Studio Code. Visual Studio Code didn't exist
    when I had my first software job in Linux though.. That was years
    before Microsoft started opening up to Linux.

    I haven't played much with VSCode, but old habits die hard, and it's too second nature to fire up nano, long before the idea of firing up VSCode comes to mind. :)


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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@PALANT.remove-iuo-this to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 14:54:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    Nightfox wrote to echicken <=-

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 09 2020 11:11 pm

    Hi. DM. How about converting text.dat to a JavaScript file instead
    and phase out text.dat? I'd vote for that one for president. I just
    cast my ballot already. :-)

    Please explain what problems you think this will solve and how it will do so.

    That's weird. I see you're replying to a message from The
    Millionaire, but it seems I don't have his message in my
    messagebase.

    He probably deleted you from his text.dat.

    You know, the file that rules all other files.



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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@PALANT.remove-iuo-this to Tony Langdon on Wed Jun 10 15:31:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tony Langdon
    Tony Langdon wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I'm not a professional Linux admin, just a (fairly serious)
    hobbyist, and also use nano as my main editor.

    I've been both. I worked as a Linux admin for over a decade and
    I've been a serious Linux hobbyist for 25 years, and nano gets a
    LOT of use here. If I had a dollar for every time I've run nano,
    I'd be doing pretty well! :D

    Hehe, same here. I'd be retired and on a private island in the
    Pacific somewhere, probably. This message is being written with
    nano, my default editor in MultiMail... ;-)

    emacs and vim can die in a fire.

    But vim can be useful - it can do Ctrl-A codes in a text file!

    I've heard a lot of good things about what you can do in vim, if
    you know how to tweak it.

    Oh yes. I think vi/vim may be the most "extensible" editor there
    is. Very powerful, given enough time to learn it all. Personally
    I'm not willing to expend that much effort, and a basic editor is
    all I need anyway. I do use vim sometimes for touch-ups to
    asc/msg display files, since it does show/insert Ctrl-A codes
    nicely.


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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@PALANT.remove-iuo-this to The Millionaire on Wed Jun 10 14:53:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    When you mean disturbing the syntax, you mean what?

    It's very similar to a disruption in the Force.



    ... Do they dream?
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  • From Android8675@android8675@SHODAN.remove-tlz-this to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 15:59:36 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Nightfox to echicken on Tue Jun 09 2020 10:49 pm

    That's weird. I see you're replying to a message from The Millionaire, but it seems I don't have his message in my messagebase.

    Check your twitlist...

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-h0t-this to Gamgee on Wed Jun 10 15:33:17 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Gamgee
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 2020 07:54 am

    That's weird. I see you're replying to a message from The
    Millionaire, but it seems I don't have his message in my
    messagebase.

    He probably deleted you from his text.dat.

    You know, the file that rules all other files.

    Maybe he figured out what all the formatting specifiers do.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-h0t-this to Gamgee on Wed Jun 10 15:37:06 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Gamgee
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Wed Jun 10 2020 07:53 am

    When you mean disturbing the syntax, you mean what?

    It's very similar to a disruption in the Force.

    Sometimes it's like thousands of voices crying out, and then suddenly being silenced.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-h0t-this to Tony Langdon on Wed Jun 10 15:32:33 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tony Langdon
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 2020 07:41 pm

    I haven't played much with VSCode, but old habits die hard, and it's too second nature to fire up nano, long before the idea of firing up VSCode comes to mind. :)

    There are some other programming text editors for Linux that are decent too. I've used Atom a bit, and it seems fairly good.

    Nightfox

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-suz-this to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 19:39:55 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Wed Jun 10 2020 08:32:33

    There are some other programming text editors for Linux that are decent too. I've used Atom a bit,
    and it seems fairly good.

    Atom was pretty good, except that it would shit its pants if it encountered a really long line of text. Before that I used SublimeText 2. It seems like most everyone who was using either of those has moved on to VS Code now.

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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@1:123/115.remove-suz-this to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 18:23:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    That's weird. I see you're replying to a message from The
    Millionaire, but it seems I don't have his message in my
    messagebase.

    He probably deleted you from his text.dat.
    You know, the file that rules all other files.

    Maybe he figured out what all the formatting specifiers do.

    Yep, he's low-level-formatted you. Are you MFM or RLL? ;-)

    (Yes, I'm old enough to remember doing that, on my Seagate
    ST-225's and ST-238's...).



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  • From Rampage@rampage@SESTAR.remove-kxb-this to Gamgee on Wed Jun 10 19:51:17 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Gamgee
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 2020 11:23:00


    Gamgee> (Yes, I'm old enough to remember doing that, on my Seagate
    Gamgee> ST-225's and ST-238's...).

    /me looks up at the ST-125 HD clock he made years ago...

    had a picture of it somewhere but can't find it naow :/


    )\/(ark

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@poindexter.fortran@REALITY.remove-hd9-this to Tony Langdon on Wed Jun 10 15:14:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tony Langdon
    Tony Langdon wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I've got nothing against vim, I just don't have the exposure need to
    learn it in detail, and that sort of thing is only done when there's no other option.

    I found a great mailing list called VIMTricks that emails a feature a day. I've been using it for years (and plain ol' vi before that) and am
    constantly amazed at what they've built into it.


    ... Don't break the silence
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@poindexter.fortran@REALITY.remove-hd9-this to Tony Langdon on Wed Jun 10 15:13:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tony Langdon
    Tony Langdon wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    nano has been my editor of choice for years. Sure, in the right hands, vi(m) is pretty powerful. As for Emacs, what little exposure I've had
    to it just didn't make any sense to me.

    I started with pico, when Pine was standard on a lot of systems, then switched to nano when Pine fell out of favour due to licensing issues.

    I spent years with PINE/ALPINE and pico/nano as my mail and NNTP client. I
    was on sdf.org a few weeks ago, typed PINE and realized they'd sylinked PINE to MUTT. Gar!


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@poindexter.fortran@REALITY.remove-hd9-this to Tony Langdon on Wed Jun 10 15:16:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tony Langdon
    Tony Langdon wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I've been both. I worked as a Linux admin for over a decade and I've
    been a serious Linux hobbyist for 25 years, and nano gets a LOT of use here. If I had a dollar for every time I've run nano, I'd be doing
    pretty well! :D

    VIM, like notepad, edit and edlin before it have the benefit of always being there.


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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-fcy-this to Android8675 on Wed Jun 10 18:34:30 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Android8675
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 2020 08:59 am

    That's weird. I see you're replying to a message from The
    Millionaire, but it seems I don't have his message in my messagebase.

    Check your twitlist...

    The Millionaire isn't on my twit list.. And I have other recent messages from him.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-fcy-this to Gamgee on Wed Jun 10 18:34:49 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Gamgee
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 2020 11:23 am

    Yep, he's low-level-formatted you. Are you MFM or RLL? ;-)

    (Yes, I'm old enough to remember doing that, on my Seagate
    ST-225's and ST-238's...).

    I remember that too... :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-fcy-this to echicken on Wed Jun 10 18:35:27 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 2020 12:39 pm

    Atom was pretty good, except that it would shit its pants if it encountered a really long line of text. Before that I used SublimeText 2. It seems like most everyone who was using either of those has moved on to VS Code now.

    I had tried Sublime and thought it was decent. I just never really used it much, mainly because it sounded like it required a paid license.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Lizard Master@the.lizard.master@NITEEYES.remove-w3t-this to Tony Langdon on Wed Jun 10 18:51:20 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tony Langdon
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Tony Langdon to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 2020 07:33 pm

    nano has been my editor of choice for years. Sure, in the right hands, vi(m) is pretty powerful. As for Emacs, what little exposure I've had to it just didn't make any sense to me.

    Here you go - https://vim-adventures.com/

    ---TLM

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-eg1-this to echicken on Wed Jun 10 22:16:11 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 16:34:23

    Please explain what problems you think this will solve and how it will do so.

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    When I edit automsg.js login.js, logon.js, logonlist.js they are work fine after.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."Will we ever fear the ecstasy of free thought?" - Thinkman...
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  • From Dumas Walker@dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-11hd-this to THE MILLIONAIRE on Wed Jun 10 21:10:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: THE MILLIONAIRE
    When you mean disturbing the syntax, you mean what?

    Think of syntax like a Godzilla monster that is coded into Synchronet. If you disturb it, it will awaken and eat all of your modifications, returning you
    to a stock installation of Synchronet.


    * SLMR 2.1a * From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-tjk-this to The Millionaire on Thu Jun 11 02:52:36 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Wed Jun 10 2020 15:16:11

    When I edit automsg.js login.js, logon.js, logonlist.js they are work fine after.

    There might be good reasons to move text.dat toward a more JS-ish format, but the fact that you won't use a decent text editor isn't one of them.

    The fact that you can save JS files just fine, however, is a clue in case someone wants to help you troubleshoot this further.

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-tpr-this to The Millionaire on Wed Jun 10 23:37:40 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Wed Jun 10 2020 03:16 pm

    Please explain what problems you think this will solve and how it will
    do so.

    When I edit automsg.js login.js, logon.js, logonlist.js they are work fine after.

    Not all BBS sysops are programmers though, and I might say probably even few BBS sysops are programmers. I tend to think it's better to be able to edit a plaintext configuration file rather than editing some source code. So I think text.dat is fine the way it is. I'm not sure what's happening in your situation, but I'd guess there may be a difference in how the JavaScript engine is interpreting the .js scripts vs. Synchronet reading text.dat. Your editor might still be saving the .js files in a weird format. I don't think changing Synchronet to use a .js script instead of text.dat would be a good solution.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@PALANT.remove-obd-this to Rampage on Thu Jun 11 03:53:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Rampage
    Rampage wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Gamgee> (Yes, I'm old enough to remember doing that, on my
    Gamgee> Seagate ST-225's and ST-238's...).

    /me looks up at the ST-125 HD clock he made years ago...
    had a picture of it somewhere but can't find it naow :/

    Cool, I googled that up and it looks like a fun project!



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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-5y4-this to The Millionaire on Thu Jun 11 04:26:38 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 06:50 pm

    When you mean disturbing the syntax, you mean what?

    I have no idea what you're talking about.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #38:
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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-hlv-this to The Millionaire on Thu Jun 11 04:31:42 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Wed Jun 10 2020 03:16 pm


    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 16:34:23

    Please explain what problems you think this will solve and how it will do so.

    When I edit automsg.js login.js, logon.js, logonlist.js they are work fine after.

    Not if you do it wrong.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #40:
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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-10h8-this to Digital Man on Thu Jun 11 11:14:07 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 09 2020 06:50 pm

    I have no idea what you're talking about.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #38:
    Synchronet first supported Windows NT-based operating systems w/v3.00b (2000). Norco, CA WX: 80.3°F, 23.0% humidity, 4 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    WARNING Make a backup of the text.dat file before you edit it. If you damage the file syntax when editing it, Synchronet may execute erroneously or even fail to initialize.
    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-gou-this to Digital Man on Thu Jun 11 11:16:28 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man
    I thought you said a long time ago that text.dat was deprecated and was going to be replaced.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-10m-this to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jun 12 03:35:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: poindexter FORTRAN
    On 06-10-20 08:14, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I found a great mailing list called VIMTricks that emails a feature a
    day. I've been using it for years (and plain ol' vi before that) and am constantly amazed at what they've built into it.

    That actually sounds like a good way to learn vim in small bites. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-10m-this to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jun 12 03:37:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: poindexter FORTRAN
    On 06-10-20 08:16, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    VIM, like notepad, edit and edlin before it have the benefit of always being there.

    True, though for me, that's something apt (or yum, if I'm on something of a Red Hat flavour) can easily fix. ;)


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-10m-this to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jun 12 03:34:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: poindexter FORTRAN
    On 06-10-20 08:13, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I spent years with PINE/ALPINE and pico/nano as my mail and NNTP
    client. I was on sdf.org a few weeks ago, typed PINE and realized
    they'd sylinked PINE to MUTT. Gar!

    That's a weird choice, one would have thought the pine symlink should point to Alpine. I never got into mutt myself. Others swear by it, but it's not me. I do quite like Alpine.


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-10m-this to Gamgee on Fri Jun 12 03:32:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Gamgee
    On 06-10-20 08:31, Gamgee wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Hehe, same here. I'd be retired and on a private island in the
    Pacific somewhere, probably. This message is being written with
    nano, my default editor in MultiMail... ;-)

    Yep, nano is a real goto. :) I'm in Notepad, because I'm on Windows now, but my travel netbook has Linux, Multimail and nano. :)

    Oh yes. I think vi/vim may be the most "extensible" editor there
    is. Very powerful, given enough time to learn it all. Personally
    I'm not willing to expend that much effort, and a basic editor is
    all I need anyway. I do use vim sometimes for touch-ups to
    asc/msg display files, since it does show/insert Ctrl-A codes
    nicely.

    Yeah I'm in a similar position to you. I appreciate the power of vim, but don't have the time or inclination to master it at this time. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-10m-this to Nightfox on Fri Jun 12 03:33:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    On 06-10-20 08:32, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    There are some other programming text editors for Linux that are decent too. I've used Atom a bit, and it seems fairly good.

    I've never tried Atom, but joe is good if I want to exercise my Wordstar/Borland muscle memory. :D


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-10m-this to The Lizard Master on Fri Jun 12 03:41:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Lizard Master
    On 06-10-20 11:51, The Lizard Master wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Tony Langdon to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 2020 07:33 pm

    nano has been my editor of choice for years. Sure, in the right hands, vi(m) is pretty powerful. As for Emacs, what little exposure I've had to it just didn't make any sense to me.

    Here you go - https://vim-adventures.com/

    Interesting idea, but you are talking to a non gamer here! :)


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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@PALANT.remove-9cy-this to The Millionaire on Thu Jun 11 14:43:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I have no idea what you're talking about.

    WARNING Make a backup of the text.dat file before you edit it. If
    you damage the file syntax when editing it, Synchronet may
    execute erroneously or even fail to initialize.

    So, you're saying that you don't know what the word "syntax"
    means, and can't look it up to find out?



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  • From Daryl Stout@daryl.stout@TBOLT.remove-i8g-this to Nightfox on Thu Jun 11 16:59:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    Not all BBS sysops are programmers though, and I might say probably
    even few BBS sysops are programmers. I tend to think it's better to be able to edit a plaintext configuration file rather than editing some source code. So I think text.dat is fine the way it is. I'm not sure what's happening in your situation, but I'd guess there may be a difference in how the JavaScript engine is interpreting the .js scripts vs. Synchronet reading text.dat. Your editor might still be saving the .js files in a weird format. I don't think changing Synchronet to use
    a .js script instead of text.dat would be a good solution.

    I can write a batchfile, but my programming ends at setting the clock on
    the microwave oven.

    Daryl

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-100b-this to Digital Man on Thu Jun 11 22:06:03 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man
    I tried changing colours in text.dat for the re: by: etc but they didn’t change. Is there another file this info is in?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From DaiTengu@daitengu@ENSEMBLE.remove-nf6-this to echicken on Fri Jun 12 06:13:18 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Wed Jun 10 2020 12:39 pm

    Atom was pretty good, except that it would shit its pants if it encountered a really long line of text. Before that I used SublimeText 2. It seems like most everyone who was using either of those has moved on to VS Code now.

    That's the same path I went. I fought with Atom for a long time, but it just wasn't very good at running on remote machines. VSCode is just so much faster, and so much easier to deal with.

    I still use Sublime 3 for notes on my windows desktop, though! :)

    DaiTengu

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-10hw-this to The Millionaire on Fri Jun 12 17:11:29 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jun 11 2020 04:16 am

    I thought you said a long time ago that text.dat was deprecated and was going to be replaced.

    I certainly don't have any immediate plans to replace it and I don't recall saying that.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #84:
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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-n9y-this to The Millionaire on Fri Jun 12 17:32:33 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jun 11 2020 03:06 pm

    I tried changing colours in text.dat for the re: by: etc but they didn't change. Is there another file this info is in?

    No, that's the file. But once a message is saved, those colors are stored in the message text itself.

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-7br-this to Digital Man on Sat Jun 13 20:32:10 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man
    Mnemonics:

    If we’re using Mnemonics in the text,dat, why are there colours associated with them? For example:

    \1c~Quit

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-smc-this to Digital Man on Sat Jun 13 20:42:17 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man
    Here’s a real example in Line 232 of text.dat:

    282 "\1n\1?\1g\1h%s\1y: \1w~B\1yatch download, "\ 232 FileInfoPrompt
    283 "\1w~E\1yxtended info, "\
    284 "\1w~V\1yiew file, "\
    285 "\1w~Q\1yuit or [~Next]: \1w"
    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-vkc-this to Digital Man on Sun Jun 14 00:11:03 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man
    I found out why my text.dat screws up all the time. It’s because of this:

    “\r\nThis is a test.\r\n” 001 Test Line

    The tags are interfering.

    When I remove them:

    “\r\nThis is a test.\r\n”

    Problems cease. SOLVED.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-ihv-this to The Millionaire on Sun Jun 14 21:51:54 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Jun 13 2020 01:32 pm

    Mnemonics:

    If we're using Mnemonics in the text,dat, why are there colours associated with them? For example:

    \1c~Quit

    If you specify a color code in the strnig, it over-rides the default mnemonics colors.

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-ogh-this to Digital Man on Mon Jun 15 01:16:53 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man
    (/L) Node Activity

    When clicked I get:

    Node Status
    ——————————

    1 in white Name in green and at main menu in green.

    How do I change this? What file?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-r95-this to The Millionaire on Mon Jun 15 03:53:47 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    On 6/9/2020 4:13 AM, The Millionaire wrote:
    yes i have but everytime i run it, it either shows weird characters, freezes up at the bullseye or it just boots me off. i dont see what i am doing wrong here for some reason.

    Okay... download/install "Visual Studio Code" it's a free enhanced editor.

    then you will want to create a file. C:\sbbs\.vscode\settings.json

    Add the following in that file...

    ---- CUT BELOW
    {
    "editor.rulers": [
    76,
    80
    ],
    "editor.tabSize": 2,
    "editor.renderControlCharacters": true,
    "files.encoding": "cp437",
    "files.associations": {
    "*.ssjs": "javascript"
    },
    "[javascript]": {
    // "editor.defaultFormatter": "esbenp.prettier-vscode",
    "editor.renderControlCharacters": false,
    // "files.encoding": "utf8",
    },
    "[json]": {
    // "files.encoding": "utf8",
    "editor.renderControlCharacters": false,
    },
    "[css]": {
    // "files.encoding": "utf8",
    "editor.renderControlCharacters": false,
    },
    "[html]": {
    // "files.encoding": "utf8",
    "editor.renderControlCharacters": false,
    }
    }
    ---- CUT ABOVE

    Don't include the "----" cut lines

    From there, in a command prompt: code C:\sbbs\ replace the paths as appropriate, I'm assuming you are installed in windows C:\sbbs,
    otherwise, you can add the same file in your SBBS install, you can even
    use the SSH Remote extension to edit over SSH on a remote linux host... whatever you like.

    I've been using this, which will set the default encoding to CP437, and
    seems to work great.

    If you are going to convert the html or other files to UTF8, then you
    will want to set them specifically, you shouldn't do this for the most
    part, as you may mess up specifically encoded text.

    NOTE: I personally leave text.dat alone and do my overrides specifically
    in my login/logon and command shell js files to what I want them to be.

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-r95-this to DaiTengu on Mon Jun 15 04:21:50 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DaiTengu
    On 6/9/2020 12:21 PM, DaiTengu wrote:
    I support this method. I've been a professional linux sysadmin/devops engineer for 20 years at this point, and nano is still my goto.

    emacs and vim can die in a fire.

    LOL, usually the first thing I do on a small platform, if I'm in a shell without nano, is get nano installed... I just don't have it in me to get experienced with vim or emacs. I just want to get stuff done.

    I've really been loving VS Code's Remote SSH extension, which has been unbelievably useful for environments with more resources (such as a
    remote BBS).

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-r95-this to Nightfox on Mon Jun 15 04:30:58 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    On 6/9/2020 2:16 PM, Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: DaiTengu to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 09 2020 02:20 pm

    Da> What you're doing wrong is using some weird non-standard editor via a
    Da> non-standard method to do a thing that even experienced sysops try to
    Da> avoid doing. (most text.dat lines can be modified via javascript)

    I've edited my text.dat with a plain text editor, but I've thought of moving toward having a JavaScript script change some of the lines on login so I don't have to mess with my text.dat directly. I'd think there would be a tradeoff for that though.. If you wanted to change a bunch of lines (or every line in text.dat as an extreme example), I wonder how long it would take for a JavaScript script to do that. I'm thinking it could add a momentary pause during the login process.

    The most I've done in a file is around 20, and never noticed an impedence.

    https://github.com/tracker1/roughneckbbs-mods/blob/master/legacy_mods/logon.js#L154

    Man that file is so old at this point... don't even remember half the
    chat hosts etc... (~2002-2004 iirc)

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-r95-this to Nightfox on Mon Jun 15 04:31:50 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    On 6/9/2020 2:18 PM, Nightfox wrote:
    emacs and vim can die in a fire.

    My first software developer job was in a total Linux environment, and I actually got to really like vim. I had eventually configured vim with some color schemes for a few programming languages and had some macros set up to do various things (insert Doxygen-style comments above functions, remove extra whitespace, etc.).

    But imagine trying to use vim over SSH on a tablet interface... ;-)

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-r95-this to The Millionaire on Mon Jun 15 04:16:14 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    On 6/9/2020 4:57 AM, The Millionaire wrote:
    I asked her for an editor and she told me that I had to edit on my iPad and send it to the BBS later.

    You might try setting up one of the webified VS Code editors that you
    could run directly on your BBS and edit via browser.

    https://github.com/cdr/code-server

    See my previous post regarding the /sbbs/.vscode/settings.json that you absolutely will want to have so your files are encoded properly by default.

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-r95-this to DaiTengu on Mon Jun 15 04:19:56 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DaiTengu
    On 6/9/2020 12:20 PM, DaiTengu wrote:
    (most text.dat lines can be modified via javascript)

    Definitely my preferred method, doing so directly in the appropriate JS file/module. (login/login/shell).

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-r95-this to DaiTengu on Mon Jun 15 04:33:49 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DaiTengu
    On 6/9/2020 1:58 PM, DaiTengu wrote:
    I think I'd rather suck the end of a shotgun. I did my time on the helldesk doing user support, I don't want to ever go back to that.

    Memories of walking my grandmother over the phone installing VNC,
    configuring it properly and getting her IP so I could disinfect her
    system remotely every 6 months... ugh. I was so happy when that
    computer finally died, I ordered her a chromebook and never looked back.

    Chromebox/Chromebook is the ultimate mom/grandma computer.

    --
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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-r95-this to The Millionaire on Mon Jun 15 04:35:34 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    On 6/9/2020 4:34 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
    Hi. DM. How about converting text.dat to a JavaScript file instead and phase out text.dat? I'd vote for that one for president. I just cast my ballot already. :-)

    You can already do that, literally just create a textdat.js file, and
    have a bunch of the following

    bbs.replace_text(100,"...Your text here...");

    Where 100 is the entry number in text.dat....

    Then inside your login/login/shell js files... load("textdat.js") at the
    top.

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-r95-this to Tony Langdon on Mon Jun 15 04:41:18 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tony Langdon
    On 6/10/2020 2:41 AM, Tony Langdon wrote:

    I haven't played much with VSCode, but old habits die hard, and it's too second
    nature to fire up nano, long before the idea of firing up VSCode comes to mind.
    :)

    Totally understandable, I spend probably 80-90% of my day between VS
    Code and a browser, so it's really where I prefer to be... With the
    integrated terminal and file browser, I rarely have to leave it other
    than to look at something in a browser...

    May have to see if they have an integrated browser tab extension, then
    I'd probably never have to leave, lol.

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-ybm-this to Gamgee on Mon Jun 15 04:44:17 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Gamgee
    On 6/10/2020 9:23 AM, Gamgee wrote:

    Yep, he's low-level-formatted you. Are you MFM or RLL? ;-)

    (Yes, I'm old enough to remember doing that, on my Seagate
    ST-225's and ST-238's...).

    My parents' first computer was an IBM PC XT, with a 10mb full-height MFM
    Hard Drive... man, that thing was so slow, it actually ran faster double-spaced.

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-ybm-this to The Millionaire on Mon Jun 15 05:24:12 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    On 6/9/2020 4:34 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
    Hi. DM. How about converting text.dat to a JavaScript file instead and phase out text.dat? I'd vote for that one for president. I just cast my ballot already. :-)

    TM: here you go...

    https://gist.github.com/tracker1/e8abd1672c87205b86e80579a618fb09

    You'll need to save it to mods/text.dat.js and then you can add load('text.dat.js') to the top of your login/login and shell js files.


    DigitalMan: Not sure if you'd be interested in having/syncing this with /exec/text.dat.js

    Also, not sure if anything has changed in the past month or so in
    text.dat that my file may not have... I did a rough pass in my editor
    with regex search/replace to structure the js file.

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-ybm-this to echicken on Mon Jun 15 04:47:42 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken
    On 6/10/2020 9:39 AM, echicken wrote:
    It seems like most everyone who was using either of those has moved on to VS Code now.

    I think it mostly comes down to how approachable and broadly reaching
    the extensions are... The common debugging interface standards make it a
    more natural choice for more modern languages (Go, Rust, C#, JS/TS).

    I think the TS/JS support is a bit more hacky than the others, but in
    the box and best of breed imo.

    I'm a bit biased as I do spend most of my days at work in there,
    especially with the integrated terminal.

    VS Code + WSL2 + Docker = <3

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-ybm-this to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Jun 15 04:50:01 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: poindexter FORTRAN
    On 6/10/2020 8:16 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:
    Tony Langdon wrote to Gamgee <=-

    TL> I've been both. I worked as a Linux admin for over a decade and I've
    TL> been a serious Linux hobbyist for 25 years, and nano gets a LOT of use
    TL> here. If I had a dollar for every time I've run nano, I'd be doing
    TL> pretty well! :D

    VIM, like notepad, edit and edlin before it have the benefit of always being there.

    Wonder if there's been any effort to get a UTF8/CP437 build of
    EDIT.COM's UI/UX for 32/64bit shells... I mean, I'm sure someone has,
    just deferred to nano (or vscode) forever now, haven't looked in a while.

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  • From Mortifis@mortifis@EPHRAM.remove-8s2-this to Tracker1 on Mon Jun 15 13:30:29 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tracker1
    https://github.com/tracker1/roughneckbbs-mods/blob/master/legacy_mods/logon. js#L154

    Line 11: //console.print("\1nSaving to Login to MySQL.\r\n")

    Do you have a js mysql lib that sbbs can use?

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-2pw-this to Tracker1 on Mon Jun 15 11:20:27 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tracker1

    On 6/9/2020 4:34 PM, The Millionaire wrote:

    TM: here you go...

    https://gist.github.com/tracker1/e8abd1672c87205b86e80579a618fb09

    You'll need to save it to mods/text.dat.js and then you can add load('text.dat.js') to the top of your login/login and shell js files.

    DigitalMan: Not sure if you'd be interested in having/syncing this with /exec/text.dat.js

    Also, not sure if anything has changed in the past month or so in
    text.dat that my file may not have... I did a rough pass in my editor
    with regex search/replace to structure the js file.

    --
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    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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    Very nice work done there Tracker1. Greatly appreciated.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-11s8-this to Tracker1 on Mon Jun 15 15:59:59 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tracker1
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Sun Jun 14 2020 09:21 pm

    I've really been loving VS Code's Remote SSH extension, which has been unbelievably useful for environments with more resources (such as a remote BBS).

    That reminds me, a while ago I heard that Visual Studio now supports development of mobile apps for both Android an iOS. I started looking into it for iOS development, but I found out in order to develop for iOS using Visual Studio, you still need to have an actual Mac, set up with XCode and SSH - It sounds like Visual Studio will communicate with a Mac via SSH to do the actual building of iOS apps.

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@daryl.stout@TBOLT.remove-csf-this to Tracker1 on Mon Jun 15 16:45:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tracker1
    Michael,

    My parents' first computer was an IBM PC XT, with a 10mb full-height
    MFM Hard Drive... man, that thing was so slow, it actually ran faster double-spaced.

    I started the BBS on a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100 laptop...then for
    my 32nd birthday, a friend of my brother and I, who was working at
    Arkansas Children's Hospital in Little Rock, got word they were getting
    rid of all their computers, and upgrading.

    So, I got an 8088 XT, with 640K RAM, a 20 Mb hard drive, a monochrome
    green monitor, a keyboard, mouse, a 3.5" and a 5.25" floppy drive, and
    DOS 3.2 -- that was the birthplace of The Thunderbolt BBS.

    How times have changed!!

    Daryl

    ... I *CAN* type...my computer keyboard is illiterate.
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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-dc9-this to Tracker1 on Wed Jun 17 03:04:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tracker1
    On 06-14-20 21:41, Tracker1 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Totally understandable, I spend probably 80-90% of my day between VS
    Code and a browser, so it's really where I prefer to be... With the integrated terminal and file browser, I rarely have to leave it other
    than to look at something in a browser...

    And I always have terminal windows open. :)


    ... Success is one unpardonable sin against one's fellows.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@poindexter.fortran@REALITY.remove-t5c-this to Tracker1 on Mon Jun 15 17:45:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tracker1
    Tracker1 wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    Chromebox/Chromebook is the ultimate mom/grandma computer.

    Agreed - I replaced my mom's old Dell desktop with a 1080p
    Chromebook, and it's been trouble-free since.




    ... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.
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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-11ls-this to Nightfox on Wed Jun 17 01:07:13 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    On 6/15/2020 8:59 AM, Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Sun Jun 14 2020 09:21 pm

    Tr> I've really been loving VS Code's Remote SSH extension, which has been
    Tr> unbelievably useful for environments with more resources (such as a
    Tr> remote BBS).

    That reminds me, a while ago I heard that Visual Studio now supports development of mobile apps for both Android an iOS. I started looking into it for iOS development, but I found out in order to develop for iOS using Visual Studio, you still need to have an actual Mac, set up with XCode and SSH - It sounds like Visual Studio will communicate with a Mac via SSH to do the actual building of iOS apps.

    Yeah... depending on what you're using, you may be able to get away with
    Azure or Github build agents for Mac support... just depends on what
    you're trying to build.

    That's different from the Xamarin mac support in VS.

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  • From Moondog@moondog@CAVEBBS.remove-2x2-this to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jun 17 19:27:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: poindexter FORTRAN
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Mon Jun 15 2020 10:45 am

    Tracker1 wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    Chromebox/Chromebook is the ultimate mom/grandma computer.

    Agreed - I replaced my mom's old Dell desktop with a 1080p
    Chromebook, and it's been trouble-free since.




    ... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.

    I might get my father a tablet. I was leaning towards a 10" Kindle Fire.

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-15m-this to Digital Man on Wed Jun 17 20:52:36 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man
    In line 828, could you explain the %.0s please:

    "\1n\1m\1h%s\1n\1m%.0s posted to you "\ 828 MsgPostedToYouVia
    "on \1h%s \1n\1m%s\r\n"

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From DaiTengu@daitengu@ENSEMBLE.remove-53j-this to Tracker1 on Wed Jun 17 21:56:52 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Tracker1
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Sun Jun 14 2020 09:21 pm

    I've really been loving VS Code's Remote SSH extension, which has been unbelievably useful for environments with more resources (such as a remote BBS).

    Yeah, I'm using VSCode now for editing anything more than simple bash scripts. I've been through Sublime, Atom, and a couple others, but VSCode just seems to push all the right buttons for me, in all the right ways.

    DaiTengu

    ... To think too long about doing a thing often becomes its undoing.

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  • From Arelor@arelor@PALANT.remove-42s-this to Moondog on Wed Jun 17 23:37:15 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Moondog
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jun 17 2020 12:27 pm

    I might get my father a tablet. I was leaning towards a 10" Kindle Fire.

    Android devices are a bit dangerous because they run out of storage quite
    fast. They get their devices full of crap, and with updates etc the device becomes inoperant faster than you realize.

    The ultimate grandma computer for me was a second hand one with a frugal install of Knoppix. The whole system starts to a fresh state with each
    reboot so it never gets too full of sh?t. You just have to teach her to save her documents to a pendrive or something. The setup has a lot of drawbacks,
    but for emailing or social "mediaing" it more than suffices.

    The only real problem is that afaik it is an undocumented configuration.

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-ij9-this to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 17 23:07:39 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DaiTengu
    On 6/17/2020 12:56 PM, DaiTengu wrote:
    I've really been loving VS Code's Remote SSH extension, which has been
    unbelievably useful for environments with more resources (such as a
    remote BBS).

    Yeah, I'm using VSCode now for editing anything more than simple bash scripts. I've been through Sublime, Atom, and a couple others, but VSCode just seems to push all the right buttons for me, in all the right ways.

    Agreed, it's quickly become my edit all the things application of choice.

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@TRN.remove-ij9-this to Moondog on Wed Jun 17 23:06:45 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Moondog
    On 6/17/2020 9:27 AM, Moondog wrote:
    Chromebox/Chromebook is the ultimate mom/grandma computer.

    Agreed - I replaced my mom's old Dell desktop with a 1080p
    Chromebook, and it's been trouble-free since.

    I might get my father a tablet. I was leaning towards a 10" Kindle Fire.

    Fire is probably the best inexpensive tablet option, if he doesn't
    need/want to type much and mostly consumes content. I miss the options
    there used to be for decent mid-range tablets, and a lot of Android's
    features that were varied for tablet vs phone have collapsed.

    Huawei had some nicer mid-range tablets, but with the US-China tradewar, they've been left out in the cold, and I feel the Samsung options are
    mostly stale and not worth the extra money.

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  • From Moondog@moondog@CAVEBBS.remove-1z1-this to Arelor on Thu Jun 18 17:56:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Arelor
    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Wed Jun 17 2020 04:37 pm

    Re: Re: Text.dat Question
    By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jun 17 2020 12:27 pm

    I might get my father a tablet. I was leaning towards a 10" Kindle Fire.

    Android devices are a bit dangerous because they run out of storage quite fast. They get their devices full of crap, and with updates etc the device becomes inoperant faster than you realize.

    The ultimate grandma computer for me was a second hand one with a frugal install of Knoppix. The whole system starts to a fresh state with each reboot so it never gets too full of sh?t. You just have to teach her to save her documents to a pendrive or something. The setup has a lot of drawbacks, but for emailing or social "mediaing" it more than suffices.

    The only real problem is that afaik it is an undocumented configuration.

    --
    gopher://gopher.operationalsecurity.es


    Lately I've been seeing ads for a "safe" surfing tool and it appears the company
    is selling a live distro on a usb stick.

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-9ih-this to The Millionaire on Sat Jun 20 20:02:22 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Jun 14 2020 06:16 pm

    (/L) Node Activity

    When clicked I get:

    Node Status


    1 in white Name in green and at main menu in green.

    How do I change this? What file?

    modopts.ini

    See thi: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:nodelist

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-7px-this to Digital Man on Sun Jun 21 00:24:58 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Jun 14 2020 06:16 pm

    modopts.ini

    See thi: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:nodelist

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #21:
    Karl: Coffee makes me nervous when I drink it. Mmm.
    Norco, CA WX: 72.0°F, 68.0% humidity, 2 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    In line 828, could you explain the %.0s please:

    "\1n\1m\1h%s\1n\1m%.0s posted to you "\ 828 MsgPostedToYouVia
    "on \1h%s \1n\1m%s\r\n"

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-efx-this to The Millionaire on Sun Jun 21 20:49:23 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Jun 17 2020 01:52 pm

    In line 828, could you explain the %.0s please:

    "\1n\1m\1h%s\1n\1m%.0s posted to you "\
    828 MsgPostedToYouVia
    "on \1h%s \1n\1m%s\r\n"

    %.0s supresses that argument (makes it 0-length). That argument is the source BBS's QWK-ID. From un_qwk.cpp:
    SAFEPRINTF4(str, text[MsgPostedToYouVia]
    ,msg.from
    ,cfg.qhub[hubnum]->id
    ,cfg.grp[cfg.sub[j]->grp]->sname, cfg.sub[j]->lname);


    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #20:
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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-xza-this to Digital Man on Mon Jun 22 21:52:27 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Jun 17 2020 01:52 pm

    %.0s supresses that argument (makes it 0-length). That argument is the source BBS's QWK-ID. From un_qwk.cpp:
    SAFEPRINTF4(str, text[MsgPostedToYouVia]
    ,msg.from
    ,cfg.qhub[hubnum]->id
    ,cfg.grp[cfg.sub[j]->grp]->sname, cfg.sub[j]->lname);

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #20:
    Doyle: Hey is this the kind of retard that drools and rubs shit in his hair? Norco, CA WX: 79.6°F, 57.0% humidity, 5 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    Hey Dm. Thanks as always for your explicitly detailed explanations. I’m starting to notice text in text.dat appearing in ini and js files. Does that mean text.dat will be phased out one day in the future and js and ini will take over instead?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-1191-this to The Millionaire on Tue Jun 23 02:28:10 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jun 22 2020 02:52 pm

    Hey Dm. Thanks as always for your explicitly detailed explanations. I'm starting to notice text in text.dat appearing in ini and js files. Does that mean text.dat will be phased out one day in the future and js and ini will take over instead?

    Not necessarily. There are currently no plans to get rid of the text.dat.

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #11:
    Doyle Hargraves (to Karl): What in the hell you doin' with that hammer?
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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-hp8-this to Digital Man on Tue Jun 23 14:33:14 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Digital Man

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jun 22 2020 02:52 pm

    Not necessarily. There are currently no plans to get rid of the text.dat.

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #11:
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    What about some of the text in text.dat that is bypassed by js files? For example logonlist.js overrides line 545 in text.dat?

    "\r\n\1n\1h\1m%-2d \1n\1m%-6u \1w\1h%-25.25s \1m%-25.25s"\ 545 LastFewCallersFmt "\1n\1m%02u:%02u \1h%-8.8s \1n\1m%3d"

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-l4o-this to Digital Man on Wed Jun 24 14:53:47 2020
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    To: Digital Man


    What about some of the text in text.dat that is bypassed by js files? For example logonlist.js overrides line 545 in text.dat?

    "\r\n\1n\1h\1m%-2d \1n\1m%-6u \1w\1h%-25.25s \1m%-25.25s"\ 545 LastFewCallersFmt "\1n\1m%02u:%02u \1h%-8.8s \1n\1m%3d"

    $ The Millionaire $

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    Am I right about this one?

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-jn2-this to Digital Man on Sun Jun 28 20:25:01 2020
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    To: Digital Man


    Am I right about this one?

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    “No reply at all.” - Genesis

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  • From Gamgee@gamgee@PALANT.remove-nod-this to The Millionaire on Mon Jun 29 03:35:00 2020
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    To: The Millionaire
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    Am I right about this one?

    <time passes>

    "No reply at all." - Genesis

    You've likely used up your lifetime allotment of allowed questions
    about 'text.dat'.

    Aren't the answers all pretty much the same, anyway? It's
    documented, just look it up yourself. Eh?

    I mean, usually DM says "it means this: <something>", and then you
    say "Oh OK, that makes sense". So why ask?



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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-7sc-this to Gamgee on Mon Jun 29 21:03:03 2020
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    To: Gamgee


    <time passes>

    You've likely used up your lifetime allotment of allowed questions
    about 'text.dat'.

    Aren't the answers all pretty much the same, anyway? It's
    documented, just look it up yourself. Eh?

    I mean, usually DM says "it means this: <something>", and then you
    say "Oh OK, that makes sense". So why ask?

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    But that didn’t answer my question though. (Sigh)

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-org-this to The Millionaire on Wed Jul 1 17:22:06 2020
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 23 2020 07:33 am


    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jun 22 2020 02:52 pm

    Not necessarily. There are currently no plans to get rid of the text.dat.

    What about some of the text in text.dat that is bypassed by js files? For example logonlist.js overrides line 545 in text.dat?

    "\r\n\1n\1h\1m%-2d \1n\1m%-6u \1w\1h%-25.25s \1m%-25.25s"\ 545 LastFewCallersFmt "\1n\1m%02u:%02u \1h%-8.8s \1n\1m%3d"

    Where C/C++ code is being replaced by JavaScript modules, I'm usually replacing the configurable strings from text.dat (especially the "format" strings, those containing %-specifiers) with strings in the script source or loaded from config files (e.g. modopts.ini). This doesn't mean that the text.dat file is going away anytime soon, if ever.

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-2w5-this to Digital Man on Wed Jul 1 22:53:50 2020
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    To: Digital Man

    Re: Text.dat Question
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jun 23 2020 07:33 am

    Where C/C++ code is being replaced by JavaScript modules, I'm usually replacing the configurable strings from text.dat (especially the "format" strings, those containing %-specifiers) with strings in the script source or loaded from config files (e.g. modopts.ini). This doesn't mean that the text.dat file is going away anytime soon, if ever.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #80:
    TLS = Transport Layer Security (successor to SSL)
    Norco, CA WX: 64.0°F, 85.0% humidity, 0 mph NW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    Then just ignore colouring those lines in text.dat because the js files bypass them anyways.

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