• ecwebv4

    From Al@al@TRMB.remove-oyn-this to echicken on Wed Feb 10 20:02:53 2021
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    To: echicken
    Hello echicken,

    I have been getting reports of problems from a user running Jeopardized getting disconnected. I don't use the web interface myself so I don't know it well or understand what these problems are all about. My BBS uses a non standard telnet port, so I am thinking that might be part of it but at this point I don't know.

    I have been wondering if it might work better from the ecweb interface?

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-o9t-this to Al on Thu Feb 11 08:26:01 2021
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    To: Al
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Wed Feb 10 2021 08:02 pm

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    I had done that for a while. I just had them in two different directories that were both accessible from the web (I think I had ecweb in a subdirectory in the web directory).

    Nightfox

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-n2m-this to Nightfox on Thu Feb 11 17:16:57 2021
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    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to Al on Thu Feb 11 2021 08:26 am

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default
    runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    I had done that for a while. I just had them in two different directories that were both accessible from the web (I think I had ecweb in a subdirectory in the web directory).

    Yes, my install by default has symlinks to the web and webv4 directories. I think I can use those?

    Next question, how do I add the second web server alongside the other? There are a few already using that web interface so I don't want it to go away.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-yky-this to Al on Thu Feb 11 20:32:43 2021
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    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to Nightfox on Thu Feb 11 2021 05:16 pm

    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to Al on Thu Feb 11 2021 08:26 am

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default
    runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    I had done that for a while. I just had them in two different directories that were both accessible from the web (I think I had ecweb in a subdirectory in the web directory).

    Yes, my install by default has symlinks to the web and webv4 directories. I think I can use those?

    Next question, how do I add the second web server alongside the other? There are a few already using that web interface so I don't want it to go away.

    Read about virtual hosts here: https://wiki.synchro.net/server:web#configuration

    Or you could just simply have a sub-directory off of your web/root that pointed to your webv4 directory (maybe?).
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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-gho-this to Al on Thu Feb 11 20:20:21 2021
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    To: Al
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to Nightfox on Thu Feb 11 2021 05:16 pm

    I had done that for a while. I just had them in two different
    directories that were both accessible from the web (I think I had
    ecweb in a subdirectory in the web directory).

    Yes, my install by default has symlinks to the web and webv4 directories. I think I can use those?

    Next question, how do I add the second web server alongside the other? There are a few already using that web interface so I don't want it to go away.

    ecweb and the Runemaster web interface don't need 2 separate servers. The Synchronet web server can serve both of them. They're both just different interfaces to the same Synchronet instance.

    Nightfox

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-7gu-this to Digital Man on Fri Feb 12 07:25:15 2021
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    To: Digital Man
    Read about virtual hosts here: https://wiki.synchro.net/server:web#configuration

    Thank you. I am having a look around there now.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-7gu-this to Nightfox on Fri Feb 12 07:27:28 2021
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    To: Nightfox
    ecweb and the Runemaster web interface don't need 2 separate servers. The Synchronet web
    server can serve both of them. They're both just different interfaces to the same Synchronet
    instance.

    Thanks. I was thinking I need another instance but what I needed was the virtual server setup.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-gaj-this to Al on Fri Feb 12 23:11:00 2021
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    To: Al
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Wed Feb 10 2021 20:02:53

    I have been getting reports of problems from a user running Jeopardized getting disconnected. I don't use the web interface myself so I don't know it well or understand what these problems are all about. My BBS uses a non standard telnet port, so I am thinking that might be part of it but at this point I don't know.

    Are users able to play any other games from your web interface? It'd be weird if this problem were particular to Jeopardized. It's most likely that you'll need to correct something about your fTelnet and websocket server configuration.

    I have been wondering if it might work better from the ecweb interface?

    Unlikely, but I'm not very familiar with the external programs part of the Runemaster UI so I am not certain.

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    It's possible, but there may be a few bugs yet. (If CG sees this, perhaps he can chime in.) It mostly involves copying or symlinking the 'webv4/root/' directory to a location under the document root of your webserver (usually /sbbs/web/root), so that you end up with eg. a /sbbs/web/root/webv4 directory which contains all the stuff from /sbbs/webv4/root.

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-dae-this to echicken on Fri Feb 12 21:56:26 2021
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    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Fri Feb 12 2021 11:11 pm

    Are users able to play any other games from your web interface? It'd be weird if this problem were particular to Jeopardized. It's most likely that you'll need to correct something about your fTelnet and websocket server configuration.

    Yes, I don't use it often but am able to look at bulletins, the BBS list and play blackjack.

    If I can figure out any problems I'll make adjustments.

    It's possible, but there may be a few bugs yet. (If CG sees this, perhaps he can chime in.) It mostly involves copying or symlinking the 'webv4/root/' directory to a location under the document root of your webserver (usually /sbbs/web/root), so that you end up with eg. a /sbbs/web/root/webv4 directory which contains all the stuff from /sbbs/webv4/root.

    OK, I have it working as a virtual server now, with a symlink pointing to /sbbs/webv4/root.

    I have not done any configuration at all. Will I need entries in sbbs.ini or modopts.ini?

    I have asked Cyberpope to post his reports here. I don't know what button he is pressing when these errors happen, but he told me he was getting a "red line" on his screen. I have not seen that but it sounds like this is happening in ftelnet? I'm not sure but if the problem continues I'll try to zero in on it and your help would be appreciated.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-dl6-this to Al on Sat Feb 13 18:09:00 2021
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    To: Al
    On 02-12-21 07:27, Al wrote to Nightfox <=-

    ecweb and the Runemaster web interface don't need 2 separate servers. The Synchronet web
    server can serve both of them. They're both just different interfaces to
    he
    same Synchronet
    instance.

    Thanks. I was thinking I need another instance but what I needed was
    the virtual server setup.

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/


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  • From Daryl Stout@daryl.stout@TBOLT.remove-cdr-this to Tony Langdon on Sat Feb 13 05:54:00 2021
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    To: Tony Langdon
    Tony,

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list
    for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Is that the corporate version of E.D.?? According to one ham radio
    operator, he thought it stood for "Electronic Doofus"!! Now, I can
    relate to that...especially when it comes to Violet (hi hi).

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-e8y-this to Al on Sat Feb 13 11:19:56 2021
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    To: Al
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Wed Feb 10 2021 08:02 pm

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    Yes, you can, assuming you have the newest version of webv4. make a dir called /sbbs/web/root/webv4 and move all of your root directory of webv4 into this directory, you should have 6 directories and 2 files in the newly created dir (api, bootstrap, css, error, images, js, .gitignore, index.xjs)

    Now make a directory /sbbs/webv4, and put the other directories form webv4 in this newly created dir. You should have 4 dirs and 1 file, (components, lib, pages. sidebar, .gitignore).

    Be sure you move all the files included in the webv4 directories to their respected new dirs.

    now go into sbbs/ctrl/modopts.ini and change the following line in the web section from: web_directory=../web/root/webv4 to: web_directory=../webv4

    Now you can point to your new web page as "http://yoursiteaddress.com/webv4"

    If you want, you can see it in action on my site http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/ then click on the test button located on the left hand side. I'm still tweaking it, thats why it's labeled test. The rest of my site is the old ruinmaster.

    Good luck. If you have any questions, feel free to ask, If I can't answer, I'm sure echicken can.

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  • From Denn@denn@OUTWEST.remove-jll-this to Tony Langdon on Sat Feb 13 11:18:39 2021
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    To: Tony Langdon
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Tony Langdon to Al on Sat Feb 13 2021 06:09 pm

    Thanks. I was thinking I need another instance but what I needed was
    the virtual server setup.

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    I love ecwebv4, just the stuff that can be done with it using HTML is way cool.
    outwestbbs.com to see some of the mod's I made to mine.

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  • From Alan Ianson@alan.ianson@1:153/757.2.remove-u8a-this to DesotoFireflite on Sat Feb 13 17:39:02 2021
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    To: DesotoFireflite
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to Al on Sat Feb 13 2021 11:19 am

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default
    runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    Yes, you can, assuming you have the newest version of webv4. make a dir called /sbbs/web/root/webv4 and move all of your root directory of webv4 into this directory, you should have 6 directories and 2 files in the newly created dir (api, bootstrap, css, error, images, js, .gitignore, index.xjs)

    Now make a directory /sbbs/webv4, and put the other directories form webv4 in this newly created dir. You should have 4 dirs and 1 file, (components, lib, pages. sidebar, .gitignore).

    Be sure you move all the files included in the webv4 directories to their respected new dirs.

    I tried this. I have symlinked the webv4/root directory to web/root/trmb.ddns.net and it works as expected. It seems to consume RAM after a time. The BBS eventually slows down and stops responding.

    If you want, you can see it in action on my site http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/ then click on the test button located on the left hand side. I'm still tweaking it, thats why it's labeled test. The rest of my site is the old ruinmaster.

    I did have a look. Your site is nicely modified and behaved.

    now go into sbbs/ctrl/modopts.ini and change the following line in the web section from: web_directory=../web/root/webv4 to: web_directory=../webv4

    This is what I don't have. I'll look into what needs to be done with modopts.ini and try again.

    That's for the info.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-lo9-this to Tony Langdon on Sat Feb 13 17:51:49 2021
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    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Tony Langdon to Al on Sat Feb 13 2021 06:09 pm

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list for years LOL.

    It has a nice interface.

    Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Yep, it all takes time that's not always easy to find.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-ump-this to Daryl Stout on Sun Feb 14 20:42:00 2021
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    To: Daryl Stout
    On 02-13-21 05:54, Daryl Stout wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Tony,

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list
    for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Is that the corporate version of E.D.?? According to one ham radio operator, he thought it stood for "Electronic Doofus"!! Now, I can
    relate to that...especially when it comes to Violet (hi hi).

    LOL if only it was that simple, no, it's a real psychological thing, unfortunately. :/


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-ump-this to Denn on Sun Feb 14 20:43:00 2021
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    To: Denn
    On 02-13-21 11:18, Denn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I love ecwebv4, just the stuff that can be done with it using HTML is
    way cool.
    outwestbbs.com to see some of the mod's I made to mine.

    Yeah I've heard nothing but good things, and tried the ecweb interface on another BBS and found it quite good (for a web interface, they're not really my thing). :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-ump-this to Al on Sun Feb 14 20:44:00 2021
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    To: Al
    On 02-13-21 17:51, Al wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list for years LOL.

    It has a nice interface.

    Certainly one of the better web based messaging interfaces.

    Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Yep, it all takes time that's not always easy to find.

    Not just time, but also information gathering, planning, etc.


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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-r9e-this to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 14 08:33:38 2021
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    To: Alan Ianson
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Alan Ianson to DesotoFireflite on Sat Feb 13 2021 05:39 pm

    I tried this. I have symlinked the webv4/root directory to web/root/trmb.ddns.net and it works as expected. It seems to consume RAM after a time. The BBS eventually slows down and stops responding.

    I'm assuming since you said symlinked, you are running linux. I know nothing about linux, so echicken would be the one to ask about running webv4 on linux

    I did have a look. Your site is nicely modified and behaved.

    Thanks, but still have a lot of tweeking to do.

    now go into sbbs/ctrl/modopts.ini and change the following line in
    the web section from: web_directory=../web/root/webv4 to:
    web_directory=../webv4

    This is what I don't have. I'll look into what needs to be done with modopts.ini and try again.

    This is what made the difference on my site. Hope it works for you.

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  • From Daryl Stout@daryl.stout@TBOLT.remove-pc-this to Tony Langdon on Mon Feb 15 07:16:00 2021
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    To: Tony Langdon
    Tony,

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list
    for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Is that the corporate version of E.D.?? According to one ham radio operator, he thought it stood for "Electronic Doofus"!! Now, I can
    relate to that...especially when it comes to Violet (hi hi).

    LOL if only it was that simple, no, it's a real psychological thing, unfortunately. :/

    In today's world, any bit of levity is helpful.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-twc-this to Daryl Stout on Tue Feb 16 18:46:00 2021
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    To: Daryl Stout
    On 02-15-21 07:16, Daryl Stout wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    In today's world, any bit of levity is helpful.

    True, except when it can cause a misunderstanding. :)


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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-11sa-this to Alan Ianson on Wed Feb 17 11:27:47 2021
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    To: Alan Ianson
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Alan Ianson to DesotoFireflite on Sat Feb 13 2021 17:39:02

    I tried this. I have symlinked the webv4/root directory to web/root/trmb.ddns.net and it works as expected. It seems to consume RAM after a time. The BBS eventually slows down and stops responding.

    There are a few changes I need to make which may help with this, but I'm only guessing. Since almost every script that's involved has a short lifecycle (an HTTP request and response) you would think any memory that's used would get freed up afterward, but it's not quite so simple.

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-11sa-this to Al on Wed Feb 17 11:19:59 2021
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    To: Al
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Fri Feb 12 2021 21:56:26

    I have not done any configuration at all. Will I need entries in sbbs.ini or modopts.ini?

    In your case, nothing needs to be changed in sbbs.ini.

    You can add a [web] section to modopts.ini; an annotated example is available here:

    http://wiki.synchro.net/config:webv4

    If you omit that section or any settings, then the defaults (as shown on that page) will be applied. The most important setting to consider is "guest".

    he is pressing when these errors happen, but he told me he was getting a "red line" on his screen. I have not seen that but it sounds like this is happening in ftelnet? I'm not sure but if the problem continues I'll try

    fTelnet will have a red bar across the bottom in some situations (loss of input focus, disconnection). Typically that bar contains some text, and it would be nice to know what it says (probably "Disconnected from ...").

    Yes, I don't use it often but am able to look at bulletins, the BBS list and play blackjack.

    Does Jeopardized work if you call in via, say, SyncTERM?

    When the problem occurs, does Jeopardized even launch, or does the disconnection happen before you see any output from it?

    Does anything interesting show up in the logs when this happens?

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-9so-this to echicken on Thu Feb 18 00:56:27 2021
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    To: echicken
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Wed Feb 17 2021 11:19 am

    You can add a [web] section to modopts.ini; an annotated example is available here:

    http://wiki.synchro.net/config:webv4

    If you omit that section or any settings, then the defaults (as shown on that page) will be applied. The most important setting to consider is "guest".

    I'll have a look at the wiki page and add those settings.

    fTelnet will have a red bar across the bottom in some situations (loss of input focus, disconnection). Typically that bar contains some text, and it would be nice to know what it says (probably "Disconnected from ...").

    I'll get more input and better details.

    Does Jeopardized work if you call in via, say, SyncTERM?

    Yes, I was just in there using telnet and I was able to read the news, scores etc and it seemed to work well for me. I'll haven't played at all but given some time I'll try that but it seemed to work for me.

    When the problem occurs, does Jeopardized even launch, or does the disconnection happen before you see any output from it?

    I'll try to get better info from that user, or maybe he will participate here.

    Does anything interesting show up in the logs when this happens?

    Not that I have noticed. I'll try to figure out what time this happens and look in the log and see if it shed's any light.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-9so-this to echicken on Thu Feb 18 00:58:39 2021
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    To: echicken
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Alan Ianson on Wed Feb 17 2021 11:27 am

    There are a few changes I need to make which may help with this, but I'm only guessing. Since almost every script that's involved has a short lifecycle (an HTTP request and response) you would think any memory that's used would get freed up afterward, but it's not quite so simple.

    I'll add the [web] section to modopts.ini and see if that makes a difference.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-9et-this to Al on Thu Feb 18 09:32:53 2021
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    To: Al
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 00:58:39

    I'll add the [web] section to modopts.ini and see if that makes a difference.

    Shouldn't be necessary unless you want to change one of the default settings. Definitely won't fix a memory leak, which is what seems to be happening.

    I made some changes last night but have no idea if they will do anything re: this issue. An update might help.

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-r37-this to echicken on Thu Feb 18 07:19:12 2021
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    To: echicken
    Shouldn't be necessary unless you want to change one of the default settings. Definitely won't fix a memory leak, which is what seems to be happening.

    I did have a web section in my modopts.ini that I didn't notice before.

    I made some changes last night but have no idea if they will do anything re: this issue. An update might help.

    Leaving the modopts.ini intact the ecweb interface seems to load. The title bar says "The Rusty MailBox..." but the page does not display. I get an empty browser window.

    If I comment out the [web] section from modopts.ini I get this in my browser..

    !JavaScript /sbbs/web/root/trmb.ddns.net/index.xjs.ssjs line 3: Error: can't open /sbbs/web/root/../lib/init.js: No such file or directory

    I hope that makes sense.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-au1-this to Al on Thu Feb 18 13:23:35 2021
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    To: Al
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 07:19:12

    If I comment out the [web] section from modopts.ini I get this in my browser..

    !JavaScript /sbbs/web/root/trmb.ddns.net/index.xjs.ssjs line 3: Error: can't open /sbbs/web/root/../lib/init.js: No such file or directory

    That's to be expected in this scenario, since you aren't specifying the web_directory setting and the default doesn't work for your system.

    I would suggest that you add [web] back to modopts.ini, but start with just this:

    [web]
    web_directory = ../webv4

    (Adjust the value as needed to point to your webv4 directory; the location is relative to the exec directory.)

    After that, you'll most likely end up back in this state:

    Leaving the modopts.ini intact the ecweb interface seems to load. The title bar says "The Rusty MailBox..." but the page does not display. I get an empty browser window.

    At which point there will probably be errors in your logs to help us find out what's going wrong.

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-au1-this to Al on Thu Feb 18 13:27:58 2021
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    To: Al
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 07:19:12

    !JavaScript /sbbs/web/root/trmb.ddns.net/index.xjs.ssjs line 3: Error:

    Incidentally if I go here:

    http://trmb.synchro.net/trmb.ddns.net/

    everything does seem to work, but if I go here:

    http://trmb.ddns.net/

    I see the runemaster UI, which strikes me as odd.

    Do you have VIRTUAL_HOSTS in the Options line under [Web] in sbbs.ini?

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-bea-this to echicken on Thu Feb 18 11:38:06 2021
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    To: echicken
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 01:27 pm

    Incidentally if I go here:

    http://trmb.synchro.net/trmb.ddns.net/

    everything does seem to work, but if I go here:

    http://trmb.ddns.net/

    I see the runemaster UI, which strikes me as odd.

    Do you have VIRTUAL_HOSTS in the Options line under [Web] in sbbs.ini?

    I had it disabled because of the ram usage but it is enabled now.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-xus-this to Al on Thu Feb 18 14:58:01 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Al
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 11:38:06

    I had it disabled because of the ram usage but it is enabled now.

    Interestingly, now fTelnet is missing from your Home page but other things (such as Forum and Files) appear to work just fine. I'll try to figure out why that is.

    Incidentally, you may wish to lock down permissions on some of your file areas. Right now, any guest user from the web could leech The BBS Documentary off of your server, for example. (This is a good case for setting up a dedicated guest user account for your website.)

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-v1k-this to Al on Thu Feb 18 15:08:42 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Al
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 11:38:06

    I had it disabled because of the ram usage but it is enabled now.

    An update - or adding 'ftelnet=true' to modopts.ini->[web] - might make your Home page look correct. If not, please let me know.

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-7da-this to echicken on Thu Feb 18 12:37:18 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 02:58 pm

    Interestingly, now fTelnet is missing from your Home page but other things (such as Forum and Files) appear to work just fine. I'll try to figure out why that is.

    Is that the runemaster interface? The externals menu option doesn't show unless you login.

    Incidentally, you may wish to lock down permissions on some of your file areas. Right now, any guest user from the web could leech The BBS Documentary off of your server, for example. (This is a good case for setting up a dedicated guest user account for your website.)

    I sometimes wonder if that should be a protected area, but I don't think so. I got those files many years ago now from legaltorrents.com when that site was running. I think Jason is OK with those files being freely shared. You can actually download iso images of the documentary from archive.org.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-7da-this to echicken on Thu Feb 18 12:40:19 2021
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    To: echicken
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 03:08 pm

    An update - or adding 'ftelnet=true' to modopts.ini->[web] - might make your Home page look correct. If not, please let me know.

    I enabled that option but I don't see any difference. I still don't see anything in my browser when I go to trmb.ddns.net.

    Ram usage seems to be OK, so far anyway.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-ivz-this to Al on Thu Feb 18 15:52:07 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Al
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 12:37:18

    I sometimes wonder if that should be a protected area, but I don't think so. I got those files many years ago now from legaltorrents.com when that site was running. I think Jason is OK with those files being freely shared. You can actually download iso images of the documentary from archive.org.

    I believe it was released under a Creative Commons license, so distributing it is no problem. I was mainly thinking about it as a bandwidth consideration; that's around 2GB of video, which is probably fine, but could add up if for some reason you got a lot of downloads one month.

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-ivz-this to Al on Thu Feb 18 15:53:32 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Al
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 12:40:19

    I enabled that option but I don't see any difference. I still don't see anything in my browser when I go to trmb.ddns.net.

    You see nothing at all in your browser?

    When I go to trmb.ddns.net now, I see a full working webv4 site. fTelnet appears to be working now too.

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  • From Alan Ianson@alan.ianson@1:153/757.2.remove-11ru-this to echicken on Thu Feb 18 13:05:20 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 03:53 pm

    You see nothing at all in your browser?

    Yes, just a blank page at trmb.ddns.net. If I go to trmb.synchro.net/trmb.ddns.net then I see the ecweb page fine.

    My router is known for playing strange tricks, this might be one of them.

    When I go to trmb.ddns.net now, I see a full working webv4 site. fTelnet appears to be working now too.

    Excellent. Thank you for your efforts, it is appreciated. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Denn@denn@OUTWEST.remove-unu-this to echicken on Thu Feb 18 15:02:45 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 03:53 pm

    I enabled that option but I don't see any difference. I still don't
    see anything in my browser when I go to trmb.ddns.net.

    You see nothing at all in your browser?

    When I go to trmb.ddns.net now, I see a full working webv4 site. fTelnet appears to be working now too.

    I also get to his webv4 page just fine and ftelnet works for me as well.

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  • From Al@al@TRMB.remove-qx9-this to echicken on Sat Feb 20 00:30:25 2021
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    To: echicken
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 03:53 pm

    I enabled that option but I don't see any difference. I still don't
    see anything in my browser when I go to trmb.ddns.net.

    You see nothing at all in your browser?

    Further to this I have noticed I can go to http://trmb.ddns.net and I see the page fine. It's when I use https://trmb.ddns.net that I see a blank page.

    The memory usage does not seem to be a problem anymore.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-7b3-this to Al on Sat Feb 20 11:12:19 2021
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    To: Al
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Sat Feb 20 2021 00:30:25

    Further to this I have noticed I can go to http://trmb.ddns.net and I see the page fine. It's when I use https://trmb.ddns.net that I see a blank page.

    I am not seeing that problem here - webv4 appears and seems to be working whether via http or https.

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  • From Alan Ianson@alan.ianson@1:153/757.2.remove-11s5-this to echicken on Sat Feb 20 09:21:21 2021
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    To: echicken
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Sat Feb 20 2021 11:12 am

    I am not seeing that problem here - webv4 appears and seems to be working whether via http or https.

    I wonder if it could be my virtual server setup, but that's not an ecweb issue.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-127y-this to echicken on Sat Jan 29 15:51:54 2022
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    To: echicken
    Hi EC

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these things up.

    If you remember correctly, I am running webv4 off of my other website, and you and I worked to get it so it worked fine by changing a few things in modopts.ini. But at that time, you said all the modules may not function correctly, and this is the only one I've found that is giving issues. What do we need to do to get the register feature working correctly.

    If you want to check it out, go to my webpage "valhallabbs.com", and click on the Synchronet Icon. Thanks in advance

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  • From Nelgin@nelgin@EOTLBBS.remove-o58-this to DesotoFireflite on Sat Jan 29 21:15:03 2022
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    To: DesotoFireflite
    On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 15:51:54 -0500
    "DesotoFireflite" <desotofireflite@VERT/VALHALLA> wrote:

    Hi EC

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
    fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my
    system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and
    Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few
    other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
    things up.

    Do people really give their details up? I guess these days it's easy
    enough to look someone up on the internet, and before the times of
    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days
    of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.
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  • From MRO@mro@BBSESINF.remove-jx2-this to Nelgin on Sat Jan 29 22:10:47 2022
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    To: Nelgin
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nelgin to DesotoFireflite on Sat Jan 29 2022 09:15 pm

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
    fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few
    other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
    things up.

    Do people really give their details up? I guess these days it's easy
    enough to look someone up on the internet, and before the times of
    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days
    of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.


    i dont know why any sysop would want someone's real birthdate or street address.

    unless they are on some power trip.
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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-stn-this to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jan 30 05:08:10 2022
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    To: DesotoFireflite
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Sat Jan 29 2022 15:51:54

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these things up.

    It's meant to respect the new user questions you've specified via SCFG. (And this worked the last time I checked.) Required fields should show up with an asterisk or something beside them, and the form shouldn't submit without them being filled out.

    If you remember correctly, I am running webv4 off of my other website, and you and I worked to get it so it worked fine by changing a few things in modopts.ini. But at that time, you said all the modules may not function

    Sounds familiar, but I don't remember the details. Can you remind me what changes you made to modopts.ini?

    Does your webv4 installation have a lib/locale/en_us.ini file, and in that file is there a [page_register] section, and in that section is there a 'stat_suffix_field_required' entry? If so, what does it say?

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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-abu-this to Nelgin on Sun Jan 30 09:06:23 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nelgin
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nelgin to DesotoFireflite on Sat Jan 29 2022 09:15 pm

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
    fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my
    system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and
    Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few
    other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
    things up.

    Do people really give their details up? I guess these days it's easy enough to look someone up on the internet, and before the times of
    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days
    of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been around so long...LOL.
    Now, is the info honest, that's the million dollor question.

    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-f64-this to echicken on Sun Jan 30 09:53:53 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jan 30 2022 05:08 am

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
    fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match
    my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password,
    and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a
    few other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
    things up.

    It's meant to respect the new user questions you've specified via SCFG. (And this worked the last time I checked.) Required fields should show up with an asterisk or something beside them, and the form shouldn't submit without them being filled out.

    Yes, I understand that, but the asterisk is only showing up on the Name Field, and the Password Fields, and EMail Address Fields, none of the others, yet in SCFG, most are required for new users.

    If you remember correctly, I am running webv4 off of my other
    website, and you and I worked to get it so it worked fine by
    changing a few things in modopts.ini. But at that time, you said all
    the modules may not function

    whatchanges you made to modopts.ini?

    modopts.ini..Not sure if we made changes to modopts.ini, but if we did
    I believe these were it...it's been awhile

    brand_link = http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/
    web_directory=../webv4

    sbbs.ini
    [Web]Web (HTTP) Server
    RootDirectory = ../web/root

    my index.html pointing to webv4
    http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/webv4

    in the web/root directory, we added a webv4 directory and put webv4 root directory there, containing the api, bootstrap, css, error, immages directories, and the index.xjs and index.xjs.ssjs files. Then we added the webv4 other directories under sbbs/webv4 containing the following directories components, lib, pages, and sidebar.

    It's all been working fineit registers people fine, but it's only req name, password and email, all other fields can be blank. why is it not seeing the other required fields from scfg. sorry for repeating myself.

    Does your webv4 installation have a lib/locale/en_us.ini file, and in that file is there a [page_register] section, and in that section is there a 'stat_suffix_field_required' entry? If so, what does it say?

    Yes it's there
    stat_suffix_field_required = required

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  • From MRO@mro@BBSESINF.remove-x9b-this to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jan 30 16:42:22 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DesotoFireflite
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to Nelgin on Sun Jan 30 2022 09:06 am

    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million dollor question.

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer you put up.

    i don't want anybody's personal information. i ask for birthdate but that's just something i havent switched off. i'd rather just ask 'age' because i'm curious about my user demographics.

    i recommend that you pare down your user questions.
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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-rm8-this to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 04:48:28 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DesotoFireflite
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Sun Jan 30 2022 09:53:53

    modopts.ini..Not sure if we made changes to modopts.ini, but if we did
    I believe these were it...it's been awhile

    brand_link = http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/
    web_directory=../webv4

    sbbs.ini
    [Web]Web (HTTP) Server
    RootDirectory = ../web/root

    my index.html pointing to webv4
    http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/webv4

    Thanks - none of this should affect newuser questions.

    Yes it's there
    stat_suffix_field_required = required

    I have no idea why I made that customizable, but there was probably a reason. That's good then.

    I think this may just be down to a typo. Could you try the following for me and let me know if it helps?

    1) Create a webv4/mods/ directory (if not already present)

    2) Create a webv4/mods/pages/ directory (if not already present)

    3) Copy webv4/pages/000-register.xjs to webv4/mods/pages/

    4) Edit lines 16 and 20 of webv4/mods/pages/000-register.xjs, replacing 'system.new_user_questions' with 'system.newuser_questions'

    5) Save the file, see if your reg page is fixed

    If it does work, you can leave the copy of 000-register.xjs in place for the time being, and I'll put the fix in the git repo soon.

    Thanks,

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  • From Vk3jed@vk3jed@FREEWAY.remove-loh-this to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 15:21:00 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DesotoFireflite
    On 01-30-22 09:06, DesotoFireflite wrote to Nelgin <=-

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part
    most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been
    around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million
    dollor question.

    I agree with MRO on this, ask yourself do you really need to collect all of the information? I took a number of the new user questions out, because I really don't need the info. And these days, it's best not to collect information you're not planning to use.


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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-huz-this to MRO on Mon Jan 31 08:16:13 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: MRO
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jan 30 2022 04:42 pm

    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the
    days of collecting true, authentic user information is in the
    past.

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part
    most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been
    around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million
    dollor question.

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer you put up.

    Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult section, and the rest is for demographics.

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    Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
    A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

    Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
    Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-huz-this to echicken on Mon Jan 31 08:29:42 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 04:48 am

    I think this may just be down to a typo. Could you try the following for me and let me know if it helps?

    1) Create a webv4/mods/ directory (if not already present)

    2) Create a webv4/mods/pages/ directory (if not already present)

    3) Copy webv4/pages/000-register.xjs to webv4/mods/pages/

    4) Edit lines 16 and 20 of webv4/mods/pages/000-register.xjs, replacing 'system.new_user_questions' with 'system.newuser_questions'

    5) Save the file, see if your reg page is fixed

    If it does work, you can leave the copy of 000-register.xjs in place for the time being, and I'll put the fix in the git repo soon.

    Worked like a charm, Thanks EC, now that it's fixed, I can turn off a few of the requirements I don't need. Again thanks for solving the problem.

    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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    Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
    Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
    A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

    Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
    Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-huz-this to Vk3jed on Mon Jan 31 08:34:46 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Vk3jed
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Vk3jed to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 03:21 pm

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part
    most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been
    around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million
    dollor question.

    I agree with MRO on this, ask yourself do you really need to collect all of the information? I took a number of the new user questions out, because I really don't need the info. And these days, it's best not to collect information you're not planning to use.

    Yes, I'm planning on trimming down the required questions to what I really want and need. I still want the city and state, age, alias, real Name, and email and password, the rest I don't really care about. Now that EC solved the issue, I can get things squared up.



    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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    Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
    Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
    Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
    A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

    Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
    Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

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  • From echicken@echicken@ECBBS.remove-l8-this to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 14:00:47 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DesotoFireflite
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:29:42

    Worked like a charm, Thanks EC, now that it's fixed, I can turn off a few of the requirements I don't need. Again thanks for solving the problem.

    Thanks for doing the legwork - I didn't have the energy to test it last night.

    Hang on to your modified copy of 000-register.xjs for now, but you'll want to remove it after I've fixed the official one and you've updated. (I'll try to remember to remind you of that when the time comes.)

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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-yq1-this to echicken on Mon Jan 31 12:43:28 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: echicken
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 02:00 pm

    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:29:42

    Worked like a charm, Thanks EC, now that it's fixed, I can turn off
    a few of the requirements I don't need. Again thanks for solving the
    problem.

    Thanks for doing the legwork - I didn't have the energy to test it last night.

    I understand compleatly, at 70 most of my energy has long gone :)

    Hang on to your modified copy of 000-register.xjs for now, but you'll want to remove it after I've fixed the official one and you've updated. (I'll try to remember to remind you of that when the time comes.)

    Thanks.

    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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    Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
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    Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
    Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

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  • From MRO@mro@BBSESINF.remove-der-this to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 12:54:54 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DesotoFireflite
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:16 am

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer you put up.

    Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult section, and the rest is for demographics.


    what good is their address to you? why should you have their address?
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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-dg4-this to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 11:19:38 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DesotoFireflite
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:16 am

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised
    and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer
    you put up.

    Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult section, and the rest is for demographics.

    I don't really see a need to ask users for things like their address or phone number. I could see those things possibly being useful if you're running a BBS with adult content and want to do your due dilligence to verify user age etc.. but for the most part, I don't think that information is really necessary.

    Nightfox

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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-mvs-this to Nightfox on Mon Jan 31 14:53:40 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 11:19 am

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised
    and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what
    disclaimer you put up.

    Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because
    I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot
    in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult
    section, and the rest is for demographics.

    I don't really see a need to ask users for things like their address or phone number. I could see those things possibly being useful if you're running a BBS with adult content and want to do your due dilligence to verify user age etc.. but for the most part, I don't think that information is really necessary.

    I guess I don't, but I'm from the old school of BBSing, and I guess It's a hard habit to break. I guess it's not really needed. At least it's working now, and I can decide. I just perfer to run my system the old way.

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    Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
    Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
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    Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
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  • From Nightfox@nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-ovk-this to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 15:17:15 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DesotoFireflite
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Mon Jan 31 2022 02:53 pm

    I don't really see a need to ask users for things like their
    address or phone number. I could see those things possibly being
    useful if you're running a BBS with adult content and want to do
    your due dilligence to verify user age etc.. but for the most
    part, I don't think that information is really necessary.

    I guess I don't, but I'm from the old school of BBSing, and I guess It's a hard habit to break. I guess it's not really needed. At least it's working now, and I can decide. I just perfer to run my system the old way.

    I ran a BBS from 1994 to 2000, and I don't think I had my BBS ask for users' addresses back then. Only their phone number, since I used a callback verifier at the time.

    When I saw a BBS ask for a mailing address, I think it was often for BBSes with adult content where they might want to contact you for verification of your age.

    Nightfox

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  • From DesotoFireflite@desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-omm-this to Nightfox on Mon Jan 31 19:27:27 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Nightfox
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 03:17 pm

    I ran a BBS from 1994 to 2000, and I don't think I had my BBS ask for users' addresses back then. Only their phone number, since I used a callback verifier at the time.

    When I saw a BBS ask for a mailing address, I think it was often for BBSes with adult content where they might want to contact you for verification of your age.

    The only address info I plan to collect is the City & State, and that's for my last ten callers info, as I don't like it showing a blank line. The actual street address, and zip code, and phone number I could care less, as it's not needed these days. I plan on changing it tomorrow. The problem was, webv4 was only asking for a user name, password and email as mandatory, and I wanted more, and now that it's fixed, I can tweak the system. My problem was, that I have been realitivly lazy for a few years, now I've got back into it, and I'm paying the price fixing the things that were broken and negiected. It's all coming togeather now though. :)

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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-10mc-this to DesotoFireflite on Wed Feb 2 16:30:00 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: DesotoFireflite
    On 01-31-22 08:34, DesotoFireflite wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, I'm planning on trimming down the required questions to what I
    really want and need. I still want the city and state, age, alias, real Name, and email and password, the rest I don't really care about. Now
    that EC solved the issue, I can get things squared up.

    I find city/state antiquated without country, given everything is globlly accessible. And those are pretty much the details I'm interested in as well. Alias and "real name" are needed for using the system, including much of Fidonet, email is an alternative point of contact, and password is obvious. :D



    ... Intel inside. Idiot outside.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    --- Synchronet 3.19c-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net
    --- Synchronet 3.19c-Linux NewsLink 1.113