• Fertilizer Net And More

    From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to VK3JED on Fri Apr 17 13:57:00 2020
    Tony,

    I love running on Linux, no weird MS update screwiness. Windows is a fine V>client/desktop OS, but I much prefer Linux for server work. And I class a V>BBS as a server process.

    This old dog doesn't want to learn new tricks...but I'll soon be
    taking over the reins of an FTN network...like I needed something else
    to do. :P I keep forgetting the acronym N.A.V.Y. -- N)ever A)gain
    V)olunteer Y)ourself. <G>

    Haha as long as you don't end up as fodder for the fertilizer net! :P And V>ouch, sounds like a bad severe storm season over there. We had our worst fir V>season, nationally speaking, ever. I know of no previous fire season where V>there were major fires in 4 or 5 states at the same time! However, the weath V>gods were kind, terminating the fire season early, when moisture started comi V>off the Indian Oceak in early February. The fires were out by the end of the V>month, after many inches of rain.

    Well, I already am. Before having cataract surgery 10 years ago, my
    visual acuity was 20/2000 -- with severe nearsightedness. I had worn
    glasses for nearly 40 years...and by the time I was 35, I couldn't see
    to drive at night.

    One year, I was Talk-In and Packet chairman at the local hamfest (they
    don't even do one in Little Rock anymore, for the lack of workers,
    vendors, and attendees...never mind the political cliques and infighting
    of the clubs). I got 3 totally blind hams to help at Talk-In...and while
    I had to take them to and from the restroom, and get their food, it
    allowed me to explore the hamfest. But, word got out, and the joke was
    "Talk-In is being run by 4 hams who can't see a thing, and they're
    giving us directions to the hamfest!!" <G>.

    But, the kicker was that it was a Friday night, Saturday day event.
    They had sealed off the exits on the west side of the complex. The
    overhead parking lot lighting was not working, and they had recently
    paved the parking lot, but hadn't striped it. I groaned "I'm lost. I
    can't find my way out of this parking lot!!". Instantly, one of the
    blind hams keyed the mic, and announced over the wide area coverage
    repeater "QST!! QST!! QST!! This is a Talk-Out Net for the Talk-In
    Station, who can't find his way out of the Hamfest Parking Lot!!". I interjected (sarcastically) "I want to use your seeing eye dog!!", and
    the equally sarcastic reply was "He's tied to the front bumper right
    now!!" <BG>.

    In the last few years, when my Mom had to be hospitalized, then going
    into a nursing home (this was AFTER the cataract surgery), I got lost in
    the hospital parking decks!! :P

    At the last hamfest they had in Little Rock, after finishing up my
    work with the license exams, I walked over to where these blind hams
    were, and (trying to disguise my voice), asked one of them (but everyone
    within earshot, heard the exchange)..."Excuse me, sir?? Can you help me
    find my way out of this hamfest parking lot??"...to which he screamed
    "DARYL!! YOU RASCAL!!" Everyone nearby howled with laughter, as we
    did, too. <BG> But, if you can't laugh at yourself, you have a lot of
    problems.

    Locally, it was actually a quiet season. Light fuel leads and less severe V>weather conditions helped.

    I know you're not complaining there.

    And, they're noting the Gulf Of Mexico Waters are "very warm"...so,
    if a tropical storm or hurricane gets in there, and the upper level winds are right, the Gulf Coast is in trouble.

    Not a good look.

    Portions of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama...have been repeatedly slammed by devastating tornadoes in the last few weeks...and it looks
    like they're going to get hit again multiple times over the next week.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Sat Apr 18 21:35:00 2020
    On 04-17-20 08:57, Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    This old dog doesn't want to learn new tricks...but I'll soon be

    Haha, I can't help learning new tricks, though not always the ones other people expect me to. I blame the ADHD. :D

    taking over the reins of an FTN network...like I needed something else
    to do. :P I keep forgetting the acronym N.A.V.Y. -- N)ever A)gain V)olunteer Y)ourself. <G>

    Hmm, how did you end up with that? Last I heard is you dropped FTN and were going all QWK for technical reasons. :)

    Well, I already am. Before having cataract surgery 10 years ago, my visual acuity was 20/2000 -- with severe nearsightedness. I had worn glasses for nearly 40 years...and by the time I was 35, I couldn't see
    to drive at night.

    I'm not sure what mine is, but my distant vision is good, except for a bit of weakness in my right eye, which I've had for at least 30-35 years, but has bever bothered me, unless I'm very tired. But my close in vision is following a typical age related change, and reading glasses are becoming my best friend for reading or working on fine detailed tasks. :) For me, that's OK, because I don't need any vision correction for sport, only for close up work, which tends not to happen in my sports. :) And I doubt I could tolerate contacts. Don't mind glasses.

    One year, I was Talk-In and Packet chairman at the local hamfest
    (they don't even do one in Little Rock anymore, for the lack of
    workers, vendors, and attendees...never mind the political cliques and infighting of the clubs). I got 3 totally blind hams to help at Talk-In...and while I had to take them to and from the restroom, and
    get their food, it allowed me to explore the hamfest. But, word got
    out, and the joke was "Talk-In is being run by 4 hams who can't see a thing, and they're giving us directions to the hamfest!!" <G>.

    They call that "The blind leading the blind, but in this case it was literally true. :D

    Station, who can't find his way out of the Hamfest Parking Lot!!". I interjected (sarcastically) "I want to use your seeing eye dog!!", and
    the equally sarcastic reply was "He's tied to the front bumper right now!!" <BG>.

    Sounds like you guys have a good sense of humour. :)

    In the last few years, when my Mom had to be hospitalized, then going into a nursing home (this was AFTER the cataract surgery), I got lost
    in the hospital parking decks!! :P

    My sense of direction is such that I don't know how to get lost. I learnt the layout of a 2500 room Vegas hotel in 2005 within 10 minutes of getting there. It only took a couple of trips through the place to understand the layout and be able to find anywhere. 3 days later, as we were preparing to check out, I was still guiding other hams around the place - not because they were visually impaired, just locationally challenged. :D

    he screamed "DARYL!! YOU RASCAL!!" Everyone nearby howled with
    laughter, as we did, too. <BG> But, if you can't laugh at yourself, you have a lot of problems.

    Hahaha!

    Locally, it was actually a quiet season. Light fuel leads and less severe
    weather conditions helped.

    I know you're not complaining there.

    Not at alll. :)

    Portions of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama...have been
    repeatedly slammed by devastating tornadoes in the last few weeks...and
    it looks like they're going to get hit again multiple times over the
    next week.

    Not good. :/


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to VK3JED on Sun Apr 19 16:02:00 2020
    Tony,

    Haha, I can't help learning new tricks, though not always the ones other peop V>expect me to. I blame the ADHD. :D

    Like the Attention Deficit Disorder Dog who lived on Old MacDonald's
    Deformed Farm...

    "With a woof woof here, and a woof woof <SQUIRREL!!>" <G>

    Hmm, how did you end up with that? Last I heard is you dropped FTN and were V>going all QWK for technical reasons. :)

    Well, first, it is another case of me failing to observe N.A.V.Y.
    protocol -- N)ever A)gain V)olunteer Y)ourself. Second, I'm a glutton
    for punishment <G>. Third, the network administrator is burned out...and
    since I can do the "baby alligator distress call", it's perfect. But, I
    told the administrator I'd need help getting it set up.

    I'm not sure what mine is, but my distant vision is good, except for a bit of V>weakness in my right eye, which I've had for at least 30-35 years, but has V>bever bothered me, unless I'm very tired. But my close in vision is followin V>a typical age related change, and reading glasses are becoming my best friend V>for reading or working on fine detailed tasks. :) For me, that's OK, because V>don't need any vision correction for sport, only for close up work, which ten V>not to happen in my sports. :) And I doubt I could tolerate contacts. Don't V>mind glasses.

    Afterwards, I had to have the YAG laser done on one of the eyes...but
    the other one didn't need it.

    They call that "The blind leading the blind, but in this case it was literall V>true. :D

    What gets me is how these blind hams can program HT's like they were
    fully sighted!!

    It reminds me of the joke where this blind individual was working in
    the Wal-Mart Sporting Goods Department. This woman comes in, and asks
    what he'd suggest for fishing rods for her husband's birthday. He tells
    her he's blind, but if she'll bring the deal to him, by feel, he can
    tell the brand, its features, etc. So, she does this, and he runs his
    hands over each one, telling her the good and bad points, and how much
    each is.

    Well, she makes her decision, but as she reaches down to get her
    purse, she lets out a wicked SBD fart. He tells her the price, and she
    said "You told me a different amount"...to which, the blind salesman
    replied "The stinkbait is an extra charge". <BG>

    Sounds like you guys have a good sense of humour. :)

    As noted, earlier, if you can't laugh at yourself, you have a lot of problems. :)

    My sense of direction is such that I don't know how to get lost. I learnt th V>layout of a 2500 room Vegas hotel in 2005 within 10 minutes of getting there. V>It only took a couple of trips through the place to understand the layout and V>be able to find anywhere. 3 days later, as we were preparing to check out, I V>was still guiding other hams around the place - not because they were visuall V>impaired, just locationally challenged. :D

    I don't get lost, because everyone tells me where to go. <G>

    Portions of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama...have been
    repeatedly slammed by devastating tornadoes in the last few weeks...and it looks like they're going to get hit again multiple times over the next week.

    Not good. :/

    In the period from April 9-11, 2020...there were over 3000 storm
    reports in the continental US. The Southern Plains and southeast US were
    from severe weather (large hail, damaging winds, and tornadoes...some significant in each category)...the Northern Plains had snow...and the
    other areas had high winds that weren't related to thunderstorms.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Tue Apr 21 01:24:00 2020
    On 04-19-20 11:02, Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    Like the Attention Deficit Disorder Dog who lived on Old MacDonald's Deformed Farm...

    "With a woof woof here, and a woof woof <SQUIRREL!!>" <G>

    Haha yep. :D

    Hmm, how did you end up with that? Last I heard is you dropped FTN and were
    going all QWK for technical reasons. :)

    Well, first, it is another case of me failing to observe N.A.V.Y. protocol -- N)ever A)gain V)olunteer Y)ourself. Second, I'm a glutton
    for punishment <G>. Third, the network administrator is burned
    out...and since I can do the "baby alligator distress call", it's
    perfect. But, I told the administrator I'd need help getting it set up.

    Hmm, you are a glutton for punishment. :)

    Afterwards, I had to have the YAG laser done on one of the eyes...but the other one didn't need it.

    Ahh, OK, and it worked?

    They call that "The blind leading the blind, but in this case it was
    iterall
    true. :D

    What gets me is how these blind hams can program HT's like they were fully sighted!!

    Impressive. :)

    I don't get lost, because everyone tells me where to go. <G>

    I literally don't know how to get lost. :)

    In the period from April 9-11, 2020...there were over 3000 storm
    reports in the continental US. The Southern Plains and southeast US
    were from severe weather (large hail, damaging winds, and
    tornadoes...some significant in each category)...the Northern Plains
    had snow...and the other areas had high winds that weren't related to thunderstorms.

    Wow. :/


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to VK3JED on Tue Apr 21 05:47:00 2020
    Tony,

    Hmm, you are a glutton for punishment. :)

    Or I've gone insane. :P

    Afterwards, I had to have the YAG laser done on one of the eyes...but the other one didn't need it.

    Ahh, OK, and it worked?

    I guess so. They said the other eye didn't need it. Except for my B12
    level and an umbilical hernia, all the rest of the medical stuff is
    good.

    What gets me is how these blind hams can program HT's like they were fully sighted!!

    Impressive. :)

    They aren't worried about the manuals. :P

    I don't get lost, because everyone tells me where to go. <G>

    I literally don't know how to get lost. :)

    That reminds me of the line from "The Muppet Movie". Kermit is lost in
    the swamp, and when he notes such, he's asked "Have you tried Hare
    Krishna??" :P

    In the period from April 9-11, 2020...there were over 3000 storm reports in the continental US. The Southern Plains and southeast US
    were from severe weather (large hail, damaging winds, and tornadoes...some significant in each category)...the Northern Plains
    had snow...and the other areas had high winds that weren't related to thunderstorms.

    Wow. :/

    The weather had a little bit of everything.

    ... I WAS PUT ON THIS EARTH TO MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE.

    I would comment, but discretion is the better part of
    valor...especially considering I can't out run you. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Wed Apr 22 23:31:00 2020
    On 04-21-20 00:47, Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    Hmm, you are a glutton for punishment. :)

    Or I've gone insane. :P

    That too. :P

    I guess so. They said the other eye didn't need it. Except for my B12 level and an umbilical hernia, all the rest of the medical stuff is
    good.

    Cool. No dramas here. I put a most 20 somethings to shame. :)

    What gets me is how these blind hams can program HT's like they were fully sighted!!

    Impressive. :)

    They aren't worried about the manuals. :P

    Funny that. ;)

    I don't get lost, because everyone tells me where to go. <G>

    I literally don't know how to get lost. :)

    That reminds me of the line from "The Muppet Movie". Kermit is lost
    in the swamp, and when he notes such, he's asked "Have you tried Hare Krishna??" :P

    Hmm, not sure what you're on about there. ;).

    The weather had a little bit of everything.

    ... I WAS PUT ON THIS EARTH TO MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE.

    I would comment, but discretion is the better part of
    valor...especially considering I can't out run you. :P

    Haha, yeah Knowing you can't escape from me is a good deterrent. And the other thing is to generate that kind of speed takes a lot of power, which can be used in other ways too. ;)
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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to VK3JED on Thu Apr 23 15:56:00 2020
    Tony,

    Hmm, you are a glutton for punishment. :)

    Or I've gone insane. :P

    That too. :P

    Being a Ham Radio Operator and a BBS Sysop, didn't affect me at
    all...at all...at all...at all...at all. <G>

    I guess so. They said the other eye didn't need it. Except for my B12 level and an umbilical hernia, all the rest of the medical stuff is good.

    Cool. No dramas here. I put a most 20 somethings to shame. :)

    They're going to lift the ban on elective surgery from COVID-19 here
    on May 4...but no overnight hospital stays are allowed. So, I might be
    able to get that hernia surgery (laparoscopic) scheduled soon. The hard
    part is getting a driver...all my friends work, and have family...then,
    my brother is in worse physical shape than I am. We basically are "the
    last of our line", as our parents are dead and gone now.

    What gets me is how these blind hams can program HT's like they wer fully sighted!!

    Impressive. :)

    They aren't worried about the manuals. :P

    Funny that. ;)

    Reminds me when I attended The Ronnie Milsap Show in Portland, Oregon,
    as a "Pre-Event" at the 1994 National Square Dance Convention (Ronnie
    is also a ham (WB4KCG), and has a bunch of CW (country-western <G>)
    hits. Anyway, the bizarre part of the show went something like this,
    between Ronnie and a band member:

    Band Member: Does your Braille Copy of Playboy have pictures?
    Ronnie: I sure hope so!!

    <roar of audience laughter>

    Then they open this "Bible", and flames fly out, and the stage lights momentarily go red. Then, one of the band members says "Looks like this belonged to (disgraced preacher) Jimmy Swaggert". <G> It brought the
    house down in laughter.

    I don't get lost, because everyone tells me where to go. <G>

    I literally don't know how to get lost. :)

    That reminds me of the line from "The Muppet Movie". Kermit is lost
    in the swamp, and when he notes such, he's asked "Have you tried Hare Krishna??" :P

    Hmm, not sure what you're on about there. ;).

    In evangelistic terms, the "unsaved" are termed as "lost". And, we'll
    leave it at that.

    ... I WAS PUT ON THIS EARTH TO MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE.

    I would comment, but discretion is the better part of valor...especially considering I can't out run you. :P

    Haha, yeah Knowing you can't escape from me is a good deterrent. And the oth V>thing is to generate that kind of speed takes a lot of power, which can be us V>in other ways too. ;)

    My speed is like "Friday Night Racing At The Nursing Home", where two
    old men are racing to the finish line, and one old man lets out this
    huge fart, which propels him to victory. To which, the loser growled
    about the crapy result. <G>

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    Especially considering I'm getting FTN errors that the tosser can't
    tell what type of packet it is...so, I've got a ton of bad packet files.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Fri Apr 24 23:12:00 2020
    On 04-23-20 10:56, Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    Being a Ham Radio Operator and a BBS Sysop, didn't affect me at
    all...at all...at all...at all...at all. <G>

    .... Much! Hahaha ;P

    They're going to lift the ban on elective surgery from COVID-19 here
    on May 4...but no overnight hospital stays are allowed. So, I might be able to get that hernia surgery (laparoscopic) scheduled soon. The hard part is getting a driver...all my friends work, and have family...then,
    my brother is in worse physical shape than I am. We basically are "the last of our line", as our parents are dead and gone now.

    Yeah, I would probably have similar issues. :/ My parents are alive, but 3 hours drive away.

    Band Member: Does your Braille Copy of Playboy have pictures?
    Ronnie: I sure hope so!!

    Hahaha :D

    Then they open this "Bible", and flames fly out, and the stage lights momentarily go red. Then, one of the band members says "Looks like this belonged to (disgraced preacher) Jimmy Swaggert". <G> It brought the
    house down in laughter.

    ROFL! That'd be about right. :)

    In evangelistic terms, the "unsaved" are termed as "lost". And, we'll leave it at that.

    Hmm, still a fragmented explanation. :/

    Haha, yeah Knowing you can't escape from me is a good deterrent. And the
    th
    thing is to generate that kind of speed takes a lot of power, which can be
    s
    in other ways too. ;)

    My speed is like "Friday Night Racing At The Nursing Home", where two old men are racing to the finish line, and one old man lets out this
    huge fart, which propels him to victory. To which, the loser growled
    about the crapy result. <G>

    Hahah, I'm at my slowest time of year training wise, but still training 200m intervals in 35-38 seconds each. Race time is below 27 seconds. :)

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    Especially considering I'm getting FTN errors that the tosser can't
    tell what type of packet it is...so, I've got a ton of bad packet
    files.

    Hmm, that's annoying. :/


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Mon Jun 1 01:10:00 2020
    Tony,

    Being a Ham Radio Operator and a BBS Sysop, didn't affect me at
    all...at all...at all...at all...at all. <G>

    .... Much! Hahaha ;P

    That also applies to being a Sysop. <G>

    Yeah, I would probably have similar issues. :/ My parents are alive,
    but 3 hours drive away.

    I've got a couple of friends who will take me to the hospital, drop me
    off, then pick me up when I'm ready to be discharged. I'll be there at
    least 7 hours for prep, surgery, and recovery.

    Band Member: Does your Braille Copy of Playboy have pictures?
    Ronnie: I sure hope so!!

    Hahaha :D

    He has several songs that I really like. Country star Patty Loveless
    was apparently a ham radio operator at one time, but I have no idea
    what her callsign was.

    Then they open this "Bible", and flames fly out, and the stage lights momentarily go red. Then, one of the band members says "Looks like this belonged to (disgraced preacher) Jimmy Swaggert". <G> It brought the
    house down in laughter.

    ROFL! That'd be about right. :)

    It was a great show...amazing how talented blind hams are...especially
    in programming HT's.

    In evangelistic terms, the "unsaved" are termed as "lost". And, we'll leave it at that.

    Hmm, still a fragmented explanation. :/

    Well, this isn't the religion echo, so I'm not going to go any further
    with this.

    Hahah, I'm at my slowest time of year training wise, but still training 200m intervals in 35-38 seconds each. Race time is below 27 seconds.
    :)

    You can still <SLAP!> and <SPRINT AWAY!> real well. <G>

    Especially considering I'm getting FTN errors that the tosser can't
    tell what type of packet it is...so, I've got a ton of bad packet
    files.

    Hmm, that's annoying. :/

    I may have to request just individual packets.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 8 17:02:00 2020
    On 05-31-20 20:10, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I've got a couple of friends who will take me to the hospital, drop
    me off, then pick me up when I'm ready to be discharged. I'll be there
    at least 7 hours for prep, surgery, and recovery.

    That helps. :)

    You can still <SLAP!> and <SPRINT AWAY!> real well. <G>

    Yeah, I'm getting faster. :D

    Especially considering I'm getting FTN errors that the tosser can't
    tell what type of packet it is...so, I've got a ton of bad packet
    files.

    Hmm, that's annoying. :/

    I may have to request just individual packets.

    Worth a try, and individual .PKT files can be as efficient these days, even though one really doesn't need compression anyway.


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Mon Jun 8 14:35:00 2020
    Tony,

    I've got a couple of friends who will take me to the hospital, drop
    me off, then pick me up when I'm ready to be discharged. I'll be there
    at least 7 hours for prep, surgery, and recovery.

    That helps. :)

    Well, they couldn't just take me home and drop me off...so, they had to
    admit me for observation. With all of my family basically dead and gone (my brother is in worse physical shape than I am, and we don't get along that well), it's nearly impossible to get a driver...and even more so to have someone stay with me.

    You can still <SLAP!> and <SPRINT AWAY!> real well. <G>

    Yeah, I'm getting faster. :D

    And, I'm slower with this girdle/binder I have to wear for 2 weeks.

    Especially considering I'm getting FTN errors that the tosser can't
    tell what type of packet it is...so, I've got a ton of bad packet
    files.

    Hmm, that's annoying. :/

    What was your first clue??

    I may have to request just individual packets.

    Worth a try, and individual .PKT files can be as efficient these days, even though one really doesn't need compression anyway.

    I may do that...but with thunderstorms approaching, that has to wait
    until another day.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jun 10 00:59:00 2020
    On 06-08-20 09:35, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    You can still <SLAP!> and <SPRINT AWAY!> real well. <G>

    Yeah, I'm getting faster. :D

    And, I'm slower with this girdle/binder I have to wear for 2 weeks.

    Well, that's only temporary. :)

    Especially considering I'm getting FTN errors that the tosser can't
    tell what type of packet it is...so, I've got a ton of bad packet
    files.

    Hmm, that's annoying. :/

    What was your first clue??

    Haha

    I may have to request just individual packets.

    Worth a try, and individual .PKT files can be as efficient these days, even though one really doesn't need compression anyway.

    I may do that...but with thunderstorms approaching, that has to wait until another day.

    Hmm, with your climate, you really need a VPS. :/ Let someone else worry about keeping it up. :)



    Daryl

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    Hahaha. :D


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Wed Jun 10 15:09:00 2020
    Tony,

    And, I'm slower with this girdle/binder I have to wear for 2 weeks.

    Well, that's only temporary. :)

    One ham said "I just can't visualize you with a girdle". Well, it's around the chest cavity, down to the abdomen, but no lower. Plus, it has Velcro to keep it secure. If I'm sitting at the computer, laying down, or "fighting the cat at the sandbox", I take it off. Otherwise, I wear it for support.


    I may do that...but with thunderstorms approaching, that has to wait until another day.

    Hmm, with your climate, you really need a VPS. :/ Let someone else
    worry about keeping it up. :)

    I was offline for much of yesterday for 3 reasons:

    1) The Xfinity internet/cable modem kept resetting.

    2) Thunderstorms...one wave from 9am to 12 noon, and another from 9pm to
    12 midnight...the latter with a cold front that finally "broke the cap
    on an unstable atmosphere". It's supposed to be dry for the next week.

    3) MAJOR UPDATE to Windows 10...it took 7 hours to finish, with the installation, restarts, etc.

    ... Broken guitar ... no strings attached!!!

    Hahaha. :D

    I just fretted over that. <G>

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 12 02:08:00 2020
    On 06-10-20 10:09, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: TBOLT
    Tony,

    And, I'm slower with this girdle/binder I have to wear for 2 weeks.

    Well, that's only temporary. :)

    One ham said "I just can't visualize you with a girdle". Well, it's around the chest cavity, down to the abdomen, but no lower. Plus, it
    has Velcro to keep it secure. If I'm sitting at the computer, laying
    down, or "fighting the cat at the sandbox", I take it off. Otherwise, I wear it for support.

    Oh, OK. :)

    I was offline for much of yesterday for 3 reasons:

    1) The Xfinity internet/cable modem kept resetting.

    2) Thunderstorms...one wave from 9am to 12 noon, and another from 9pm
    to 12 midnight...the latter with a cold front that finally "broke the
    cap on an unstable atmosphere". It's supposed to be dry for the next
    week.

    3) MAJOR UPDATE to Windows 10...it took 7 hours to finish, with the installation, restarts, etc.

    Yes, a VPS would really improve your uptime, and hardware failure is someone else's problem. :)

    ... Broken guitar ... no strings attached!!!

    Hahaha. :D

    I just fretted over that. <G>

    Hahaha. :D


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Thu Jun 11 14:58:00 2020
    Tony,

    One ham said "I just can't visualize you with a girdle". Well, it's around the chest cavity, down to the abdomen, but no lower. Plus, it
    has Velcro to keep it secure. If I'm sitting at the computer, laying
    down, or "fighting the cat at the sandbox", I take it off. Otherwise, I wear it for support.

    Oh, OK. :)

    I'll have to ask if I can wash it.

    Yes, a VPS would really improve your uptime, and hardware failure is someone else's problem. :)

    Some had suggested putting the BBS in the cloud, but I thought that'd
    be too many hoops to jump through.

    ... Broken guitar ... no strings attached!!!

    Hahaha. :D

    I just fretted over that. <G>

    Hahaha. :D

    I'm a fermata...hold me...or, I'm an accent...attack me. <G>

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    Windows OS. :P

    Daryl
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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jun 13 00:10:00 2020
    On 06-11-20 09:58, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, a VPS would really improve your uptime, and hardware failure is someone else's problem. :)

    Some had suggested putting the BBS in the cloud, but I thought that'd
    be too many hoops to jump through.


    Depends what you define as "too many hoops". But it would certainly improve your uptime!


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Fri Jun 12 16:22:00 2020
    Tony,

    Some had suggested putting the BBS in the cloud, but I thought that'd
    be too many hoops to jump through.

    Depends what you define as "too many hoops". But it would certainly improve your uptime!

    I'm ignorant on it right now...but all the logistics and the costs are concerns.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jun 13 22:22:00 2020
    On 06-12-20 11:22, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I'm ignorant on it right now...but all the logistics and the costs
    are concerns.

    Logistics - whether you're prepared to learn a different way of doing things. For me, transitioning to a VPS would be straightforward, because I access the current system over SSH - the next room or halfway around the world is not that different once you're doing that. :) For me, that change might allow me to run DOS doors (much more difficult on the Pi here), though I'd be more inclined to setup a door server.

    But I run my systems on Linux. Windows doea require more adjustments.

    Daryl

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    Hmm, if they are doing that to you, maybe they're dropping a nint? :D :P


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Sat Jun 13 16:08:00 2020
    Tony,

    Logistics - whether you're prepared to learn a different way of doing things. For me, transitioning to a VPS would be straightforward,
    because I access the current system over SSH - the next room or halfway around the world is not that different once you're doing that. :) For
    me, that change might allow me to run DOS doors (much more difficult on the Pi here), though I'd be more inclined to setup a door server.

    I do several bulletin updates via batchfiles...and wondered how that could work if I put the system in the cloud.

    But I run my systems on Linux. Windows doea require more adjustments.

    You just have a fetish for penguins <starts to run away and falls> :P

    ... Why do nurses leave the room when you get undressed??

    Hmm, if they are doing that to you, maybe they're dropping a nint? :D
    :P

    Nudity should mean NOTHING to them. They've seen more breasts, genitalia,
    and buttocks, than the rest of us will ever see. To me, they're there to
    save my butt, and not kiss it.

    Yet, I know folks who will NOT go to a doctor or hospital, as they don't
    want to be seen naked (like it's something they haven't seen before??), let alone discuss "The 3 P's -- Peeing, Pooping, and Procreation".

    Besides, with the process of childbirth, that girl isn't coming out in a white satin dress, and that boy isn't coming out in a nice tuxedo!!

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 15 01:50:00 2020
    On 06-13-20 11:08, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I do several bulletin updates via batchfiles...and wondered how that could work if I put the system in the cloud.

    That's insufficient information to see the problem. You haven't mentioned the source of the bulletin

    But I run my systems on Linux. Windows doea require more adjustments.

    You just have a fetish for penguins <starts to run away and falls> :P

    ... Why do nurses leave the room when you get undressed??

    Hmm, if they are doing that to you, maybe they're dropping a nint? :D
    :P

    Nudity should mean NOTHING to them. They've seen more breasts, genitalia, and buttocks, than the rest of us will ever see. To me,
    they're there to save my butt, and not kiss it.

    You missed my poking fun at you. ;P


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Sun Jun 14 15:07:00 2020
    Tony,

    That's insufficient information to see the problem. You haven't
    mentioned the source of the bulletin

    I do a copy and paste of data from either the National Weather Service websites or from W1AW or Newsline.

    You missed my poking fun at you. ;P

    Well, in some echoes, I'm considered "comedy relief". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 15 16:11:00 2020
    On 06-14-20 10:07, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I do a copy and paste of data from either the National Weather
    Service websites or from W1AW or Newsline.

    OK, nothing that can't be fixed with FTP on your end and a cron job on the virtual server. :)

    You missed my poking fun at you. ;P

    Well, in some echoes, I'm considered "comedy relief". <G>

    Oh dear. ;)


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Mon Jun 15 14:40:00 2020
    Tony,

    I do a copy and paste of data from either the National Weather
    Service websites or from W1AW or Newsline.

    OK, nothing that can't be fixed with FTP on your end and a cron job on
    the virtual server. :)

    I'll have to get some "Elmering" on that.

    You missed my poking fun at you. ;P

    Well, in some echoes, I'm considered "comedy relief". <G>

    Oh dear. ;)

    But, if they pick on me, they're leaving someone else alone.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jun 17 01:43:00 2020
    On 06-15-20 09:40, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    OK, nothing that can't be fixed with FTP on your end and a cron job on
    the virtual server. :)

    I'll have to get some "Elmering" on that.

    There's plenty here who can help, including me.

    But, if they pick on me, they're leaving someone else alone.

    True, doing your public service. :)


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  • From Richard Menedetter@432:1/105 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jun 23 13:37:54 2020
    Hi Daryl!

    11 Jun 2020 09:58, from Daryl Stout -> Vk3jed:

    Yes, a VPS would really improve your uptime, and hardware failure
    is someone else's problem. :)
    Some had suggested putting the BBS in the cloud, but I thought
    that'd be too many hoops to jump through.

    I think it is LESS hassle.
    I pay 7 EUR a month for a virtual root server. (2 Xeon Cores, 6 GB RAM, 300 GB RAID HDD, public IPv4, public IPv6/64 subnet)

    You do not need to run a computer at home 24/7, you can offload many things to the root server (webserver, mailserver, ...)

    The company manages the storage, and replaces HDDs if they get flaky. (They use
    RAID 10)

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Jun 24 18:46:00 2020
    Rich,

    I think it is LESS hassle.

    I'll send netmail to my CyberNet Hub, Chad Adams. As stormy
    as this spring has been here in Arkansas, I've been offline more
    than online. We took 2 very close lightning strikes overnight the
    other night...so close, it shook the house!!

    Daryl

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  • From Richard Menedetter@432:1/105 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 26 00:00:44 2020
    Hi Daryl!

    24 Jun 2020 13:46, from Daryl Stout -> Richard Menedetter:

    I think it is LESS hassle.
    I'll send netmail to my CyberNet Hub, Chad Adams. As stormy
    as this spring has been here in Arkansas, I've been offline more
    than online. We took 2 very close lightning strikes overnight the
    other night...so close, it shook the house!!

    Much more reason NOT to have the fido node at home!

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Richard Menedetter on Fri Jun 26 16:40:00 2020
    I'll send netmail to my CyberNet Hub, Chad Adams. As stormy
    as this spring has been here in Arkansas, I've been offline more
    than online. We took 2 very close lightning strikes overnight the
    other night...so close, it shook the house!!

    Much more reason NOT to have the fido node at home!

    I'd just worry about data getting hacked or lost in the cloud.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jun 27 22:16:00 2020
    On 06-26-20 11:40, Daryl Stout wrote to Richard Menedetter <=-

    @VIA: TBOLT
    I'll send netmail to my CyberNet Hub, Chad Adams. As stormy
    as this spring has been here in Arkansas, I've been offline more
    than online. We took 2 very close lightning strikes overnight the
    other night...so close, it shook the house!!

    Much more reason NOT to have the fido node at home!

    I'd just worry about data getting hacked or lost in the cloud.

    That can happen just as easily at home. In fact, more easily lost, because when hardware dies at home, it's YOUR problem! Modern VPS providers have means to transfer VMs aware from failing hardware seamlessly. You still need to arrange (i.e. do it yourself or pay for the provider to do) backups of your data, just in case the system gets hacked, or you absently mindedly delete data or screw things up (we've all done that ;) ).


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Sat Jun 27 21:59:00 2020
    Tony,

    That can happen just as easily at home. In fact, more easily lost, because when hardware dies at home, it's YOUR problem! Modern VPS providers have means to transfer VMs aware from failing hardware seamlessly. You still need to arrange (i.e. do it yourself or pay for
    the provider to do) backups of your data, just in case the system gets hacked, or you absently mindedly delete data or screw things up (we've
    all done that ;) ).

    I'll have to wait until some more income gets in...bills after hernia
    surgery has drained the bank account.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Sun Jun 28 23:36:00 2020
    On 06-27-20 16:59, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I'll have to wait until some more income gets in...bills after hernia surgery has drained the bank account.

    OK, but hosting in the cloud is something to consider, especially with your weather situation there.


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Sun Jun 28 17:24:00 2020
    Tony,

    I'll have to wait until some more income gets in...bills after hernia surgery has drained the bank account.

    OK, but hosting in the cloud is something to consider, especially with your weather situation there.

    And, thunderstorms are forecast much of the week. But, I'd rather have
    wet roofs and wet lawns, to prevent errant sparks from fireworks starting
    a fire. I saw yesterday where all of Arizona was under a Red Flag Warning
    for extreme fire danger. With as stormy as this spring has been here in Arkansas, fire danger is low statewide, and there are no burn bans. Now,
    that may change come August...but for now, those are 2 things we don't
    have to worry about.

    Because of the storms, I have stayed up well past midnight the last 2
    nights, trying to get computer work done.

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@432:1/101 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jun 30 16:48:00 2020
    On 06-28-20 12:24, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    And, thunderstorms are forecast much of the week. But, I'd rather

    But I rest my case. Unlike here, where thunderstorms are much less frequent.

    have wet roofs and wet lawns, to prevent errant sparks from fireworks starting a fire. I saw yesterday where all of Arizona was under a Red
    Flag Warning for extreme fire danger. With as stormy as this spring has

    I wonder how that "extreme" compares to what we call extreme here (mind you, people don't even begin to worry until fire danger gets to one level below extreme ("severe"). And believe it or not, extreme isn't even the highest fire danger. We also have "Code Red", which basically means that if anything gets going, it's unlikely to be stopped in the first attack, and if you're in a code red area and potentially exposed, leave early (like the night before or early in the morning - good time for a vacation in the city). You and your house are unlikely to survive a direct hit, no matter how well defended.

    been here in Arkansas, fire danger is low statewide, and there are no
    burn bans. Now, that may change come August...but for now, those are 2 things we don't have to worry about.

    We have fire restrictions for typically 4 - 6 months of the year. Actual length depends on average weather conditions. And on top of that, a Total Fire Ban can be declared on any day where the weather conditions are expected to be particularly bad. We usually get several of those in a year. A TFB can be declared any time it's warranted, regardless of whether the fire restrictions are in place. This year, the fire restrictions ended quite early (I think late March), because we had a lot of late summer rain. The previous couple of years, they ended on the default date of May 1.

    Because of the storms, I have stayed up well past midnight the last 2 nights, trying to get computer work done.

    Ahh, OK.


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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Vk3jed on Tue Jun 30 19:31:00 2020
    Tony,

    But I rest my case. Unlike here, where thunderstorms are much less frequent.

    I'm not complaining about the rain. When they start shooting off the fireworks, etc., a stray spark can set a roof or a lawn ablaze. I noted
    where the southwest US, and many other areas, are really getting into
    drought conditions. Now, come August, we may not be able to buy a drop
    of rain, either.

    I wonder how that "extreme" compares to what we call extreme here (mind you, people don't even begin to worry until fire danger gets to one
    level below extreme ("severe"). And believe it or not, extreme isn't
    even the highest fire danger. We also have "Code Red", which basically means that if anything gets going, it's unlikely to be stopped in the first attack, and if you're in a code red area and potentially exposed, leave early (like the night before or early in the morning - good time
    for a vacation in the city). You and your house are unlikely to
    survive a direct hit, no matter how well defended.

    They issue Fire Weather Watches and Red Flag Warnings...and also have
    issued Fire Warnings...the latter for rapidly spreading wildfires, with immediate evacuations ordered.

    We have fire restrictions for typically 4 - 6 months of the year.

    It varies around here. In April, 1986, our normal rain was 5 1/2 inches -- we only got 3/4 of an inch of rain, and temperatures broke the 100 degree
    mark.

    Because of the storms, I have stayed up well past midnight the last 2 nights, trying to get computer work done.

    Ahh, OK.

    Plus, if I get insomnia, I figure I might as well do BBS work. <G>

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  • From Dan Clough@432:1/149 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jul 3 16:00:00 2020
    Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    That can happen just as easily at home. In fact, more easily lost, because when hardware dies at home, it's YOUR problem! Modern VPS providers have means to transfer VMs aware from failing hardware seamlessly. You still need to arrange (i.e. do it yourself or pay for
    the provider to do) backups of your data, just in case the system gets hacked, or you absently mindedly delete data or screw things up (we've
    all done that ;) ).

    I'll have to wait until some more income gets in...bills after
    hernia surgery has drained the bank account.

    Just as an FYI... I have a cloud VPS that I play around with
    various things on, including a "test" BBS (not public). It's
    hosted at linode.com and costs me exactly $5/month. I've also had
    VPS's at FreeRangeCloud and DigitalOcean, same price.



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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Dan Clough on Fri Jul 10 15:57:00 2020
    Dan,


    I'll have to wait until some more income gets in...bills after
    hernia surgery has drained the bank account.

    Just as an FYI... I have a cloud VPS that I play around with
    various things on, including a "test" BBS (not public). It's
    hosted at linode.com and costs me exactly $5/month. I've also had
    VPS's at FreeRangeCloud and DigitalOcean, same price.

    Well, right now, finances are tighter than a frog's butt underwater.
    So, I have to wait a bit.

    Daryl

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  • From Richard Menedetter@432:1/105 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 21 00:45:52 2020
    Hi Daryl!

    26 Jun 2020 11:40, from Daryl Stout -> Richard Menedetter:

    Much more reason NOT to have the fido node at home!
    I'd just worry about data getting hacked or lost in the cloud.

    Regarding hacking it is exactly as likely as being hacked at home.
    You control the measures, do the updates, etc.

    Regarding data loss, it is usually more secure than at home.
    They do this for a living, and have usually raid10.
    As soon as one of the disks gets flaky it will be replaced.

    You have to be VERY observant at home to get to the same level of data security.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Richard Menedetter on Mon Jul 20 22:16:00 2020
    Ricsi,

    Regarding hacking it is exactly as likely as being hacked at home.
    You control the measures, do the updates, etc.

    Regarding data loss, it is usually more secure than at home.
    They do this for a living, and have usually raid10.
    As soon as one of the disks gets flaky it will be replaced.

    You have to be VERY observant at home to get to the same level of data security.

    This is true. But, right now, finances are tighter than a frog's butt underwater. So, a lot of things have to wait until at least next month.

    That also includes my printing new ham radio license exam books (I
    use the ARRL VEC Exam Maker Software). While I don't test again until September, COVID-19 restrictions may delay that.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Richard Menedetter@432:1/105 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jul 24 18:03:20 2020
    Hi Daryl!

    20 Jul 2020 17:16, from Daryl Stout -> Richard Menedetter:

    This is true. But, right now, finances are tighter than a frog's
    butt underwater. So, a lot of things have to wait until at least next month.

    Sure!
    I hope there is light at the end of the tunnel!
    All the best!

    That also includes my printing new ham radio license exam books (I
    use the ARRL VEC Exam Maker Software). While I don't test again until September, COVID-19 restrictions may delay that.

    I am holding my fingers crossed!
    I think that now even the US (after trying all wrong routes first) is on the right track to contain the CoVid outbreak in the USA.
    I *really* hope the death and infection rates go down in the USA (not because of stopping testing, but because tests *ARE* done and they come up negative.

    CU, Ricsi (OE1RIC)

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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Richard Menedetter on Fri Jul 24 18:23:00 2020
    Ricsi,

    I hope there is light at the end of the tunnel!

    Lately, it has been an oncoming train. :P

    I am holding my fingers crossed!

    Well, I've told the Central Arkansas Library System of what my plans are.
    I just have to get it approved.

    I think that now even the US (after trying all wrong routes first) is
    on the right track to contain the CoVid outbreak in the USA.

    I hope so...but I saw where "Big Pharma" is "expecting to make big bucks"
    for this. The huge prescription drug costs are because of all these "drug
    reps" buying lunch for an entire clinic's doctors and staff...then doing
    their presentation...plus the radio, TV, and print ads.

    I *really* hope the death and infection rates go down in the USA (not because of stopping testing, but because tests *ARE* done and they come
    up negative.

    Arkansas has had a spike recently, as have several other areas. And, I
    had to be tested before umbilical hernia surgery nearly 2 months ago (I'm recovering very nicely from that). But, I swear, I thought they'd anchor
    those two long nasal swabs at the base of my brain, and protruding out
    my nostrils. I was about to consider the prostate check with the doctor
    having a swollen finger. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Phoobar@432:1/145 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 28 04:22:01 2020
    my nostrils. I was about to consider the prostate check with the doctor having a swollen finger. :P

    Make sure you keep an eye on that doctor. If he puts his trousers next to yours...run as fast as you can from there. ;D

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  • From Daryl Stout@432:1/101 to Phoobar on Fri Jul 31 02:07:00 2020
    my nostrils. I was about to consider the prostate check with the doctor having a swollen finger. :P

    Make sure you keep an eye on that doctor. If he puts his trousers next
    to yours...run as fast as you can from there. ;D

    That's like realizing he has both hands on your shoulders. :P

    I found a cartoon, where this one guy has a C-Clamp around his hips,
    as he's dressed...sitting on the exam table. The C-Clamp is tightly
    holding his butt cheeks together.

    The doctor notes "Patient is rather reluctant to have his prostate
    checked".

    When I showed that to my urologist (an older gentleman), I thought
    he'd pee his pants, or die laughing. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Phoobar@432:1/145 to Daryl Stout on Sat Aug 1 09:25:50 2020
    Make sure you keep an eye on that doctor. If he puts his trousers nex to yours...run as fast as you can from there. ;D
    That's like realizing he has both hands on your shoulders. :P

    Yep. Seems like you've seen that meme when I got it from. ;)

    I found a cartoon, where this one guy has a C-Clamp around his hips,
    as he's dressed...sitting on the exam table. The C-Clamp is tightly holding his butt cheeks together.

    Reminds me of a scene from one of the Cheech/Chong movies where Cheech is heading to the head chanting something like "hold together" over & over from eating a bad burrito.

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  • From Hatton@432:1/151 to Dan Clough on Sun Aug 23 00:00:00 2020
    Just as an FYI... I have a cloud VPS that I play around with
    various things on, including a "test" BBS (not public). It's
    hosted at linode.com and costs me exactly $5/month. I've also had
    VPS's at FreeRangeCloud and DigitalOcean, same price.

    I'm running one on Hostinger for the same amount, more than enough CPU,
    disk and throughput for a BBS.

    73 de NY5I
    Hatton

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