The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
Do you think it was worthwhile to remaster vinyl once again?
Do you think it was worthwhile to remaster vinyl once again?
The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
Do you think it was worthwhile to remaster vinyl once again?
Do you think it was worthwhile to remaster vinyl once again?
Do you think it was worthwhile to remaster vinyl once again?
I recently got a USB turntable so I could start converting all my old albums over to digital while they are still playable, and even then some of them have gotten so badly scratched over the decades that I'm going to lose several tracks from each of those albums. While I love the warmth that you get from the sound of vinyl, it is a very short lived medium as the more times it gets played the worse those groves become.
-Dallas Vinson
Re: Vinyl
By: Lupine Furmen to All on Thu Oct 03 2019 01:53 am
I recently got a USB turntable so I could start converting all my old albums over to digital while they are still playable, and even then some of them have gotten so badly scratched over the decades that I'm going to lose several tracks from each of those albums. While I love the warmth that you get from the sound of vinyl, it is a very short lived medium as the more times it gets played the worse those groves become.
-Dallas Vinson
You know, I am also digitizing my VHS collection because of similar reasons. The VHS format didn't have the benefit of looking good to begin with, though.
I recently got a USB turntable so I could start converting all my old albums over to digital while they are still playable, and even then some of them have gotten so badly scratched over the decades that I'm going to lose several tracks from each of those albums. While I love the warmth that you get from the sound of vinyl, it is a very short lived medium as the more times it gets played the worse those groves become.
I recently got a USB turntable so I could start converting all my old albums over to digital while they are still playable, and even then some of them
Re: Vinyl
By: Lupine Furmen to All on Thu Oct 03 2019 01:53 am
I recently got a USB turntable so I could start converting all my old albums over to digital while they are still playable, and even then som of them have gotten so badly scratched over the decades that I'm going lose several tracks from each of those albums. While I love the warmth that you get from the sound of vinyl, it is a very short lived medium a the more times it gets played the worse those groves become.
I've seen a laser turntable for vinyl that plays records using a laser so it doesn't physically wear out the records:
http://elpj.com
However, those are very expensive..
I recently got a USB turntable so I could start converting all my old
albums over to digital while they are still playable, and even then
You know, I am also digitizing my VHS collection because of similar reasons. The VHS format didn't have the benefit of looking good to begin with, though.
I've been doing that this year too. Some of my home video camera tapes still look considerably better than the de-interlaced digitally captured files however. :-(
A couple years ago, I bought a USB cassette deck so I could digitize some old cassettes I have, which are somewhat rare and not available on CD.
Re: Vinyl
By: Digital Man to Arelor on Thu Oct 03 2019 09:49 am
I've been doing that this year too. Some of my home video camera tapes still look considerably better than the de-interlaced digitally captured files however. :-(
I don't think you should be touching the interlacing when doing captures for archival, unless you are tight for space. I'd do the deinterlacing in playback.
But then if you are tight on space then it sense to deinterlace and use noise filters to make the output more compressible... it is just that if you are not careful you make the output look like crap.
Actually I wrote a Linux Magazine article about the subject. The equipment I used as a base for the article is like 100 USD worth so end results are ok at best if you follow it to the leter, though.
I've been doing that this year too. Some of my home video camera tapes still look considerably better than the de-interlaced digitally captured files however. :-(
Awesome. I was using Windows on the capture system, but certainly could use a Linux system if the results would be better. Got a link to that article?
Awesome. I was using Windows on the capture system, but certainly could use a Linux system if the results would be better. Got a link to that article?
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2019/219/File-Conversion
You know, I am also digitizing my VHS collection because of similar reasons. The VHS format didn't have the benefit of looking good to begin with, though.
I've seen a laser turntable for vinyl that plays records using a laser so it doesn't physically wear out the records:
http://elpj.com
However, those are very expensive..
Nice! I really should look into getting one of those. Which one did you get?
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2019/219/File-Conversion
The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
Do you think it was worthwhile to remaster vinyl once again?
This question cannot be answered. There are numerous reasons why
it can't, but in the interest of decency, I won't say why.
Please try to come up with better questions that actually make
sense and have some resemblance to the English language.
... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & CurlyWhat kind of a reply was this?
Re: Vinyl
By: Arelor to Lupine Furmen on Thu Oct 03 2019 07:11:26
You know, I am also digitizing my VHS collection because of similar reaso The VHS format didn't have the benefit of looking good to begin with, though.
Yeah, when it came to A/V quality, Beta was certainly far supperior.
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I can imagine. Sounds like a fairly new tech. Give it a few years and the pr will start coming down. CD Players used to be pretty expensive too. Same wit 3D printers, but now 3D printers are getting cheap enough that anyone can ha one on their desktop.
I've seen a laser turntable for vinyl that plays records using a laser
so it doesn't physically wear out the records:
http://elpj.com
However, those are very expensive..
I can imagine. Sounds like a fairly new tech. Give it a few years and the price will start coming down. CD Players used to be pretty expensive too. Same with 3D printers, but now 3D printers are getting cheap enough that anyone can have one on their desktop.
There is an unrelated technology that uses a camera to take detailed images of the grooves, then software decodes the images to make sound.
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The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
Do you think it was worthwhile to remaster vinyl once again?
This question cannot be answered. There are numerous reasons why
it can't, but in the interest of decency, I won't say why.
Please try to come up with better questions that actually make
sense and have some resemblance to the English language.
What kind of a reply was this?
He asked a simple question... you could have just moved on.
Re: Vinyl
By: Lupine Furmen to Nightfox on Thu Oct 03 2019 07:13 pm
I've seen a laser turntable for vinyl that plays records using a laser
so it doesn't physically wear out the records:
http://elpj.com
However, those are very expensive..
I can imagine. Sounds like a fairly new tech. Give it a few years and t price will start coming down. CD Players used to be pretty expensive to Same with 3D printers, but now 3D printers are getting cheap enough tha anyone can have one on their desktop.
I'm not sure about those though. Vinyl record players is a fairly niche tec y expensive. These days, I'm not sure enough people would be willing to buy
Nightfox
I'm not sure about those though. Vinyl record players is a fairly
niche tec y expensive. These days, I'm not sure enough people would
be willing to buy
Economy of scale. If more were made, they would be cheaper. Even the better built systems would be cheaper.
Re: Vinyl
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Fri Oct 04 2019 09:25 pm
I'm not sure about those though. Vinyl record players is a fairly
niche tec y expensive. These days, I'm not sure enough people would
be willing to buy
Economy of scale. If more were made, they would be cheaper. Even the better built systems would be cheaper.
Yeah, but there would have to be enough demand in order for them to decide t
Nightfox
also be curious is the Maker community could reverse engineer ro develop anoth er process to translate grooves back to sound.
I'm not sure about those though. Vinyl record players is a fairly niche technology (it's an old format that was succeeded by several newer formats a long time ago). And it seems they've already been selling those for a few years and they're still fairly expensive. These days, I'm not sure enough people would be willing to buy a fancy record player for the price to come down any time soon.
Do you think it was worthwhile to remaster vinyl once again?You mean like the Beatles new remaster and put it out on vinyl again?
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You know, I am also digitizing my VHS collection because of similar reasons. The VHS format didn't have the benefit of looking good to begin with, though.Its also sad that so many old vhs tapes are going to landfills.
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And of course CD's would win out, they are smaller and less easily damaged than a vinyl album is. Of course, by that same standard, I'm surprised that mini-cd didn't dislodge CD, or the PSP CD cartridge didn't usurp all of them.
Re: Vinyl
By: Moondog to Lupine Furmen on Fri Oct 04 2019 11:10:00
also be curious is the Maker community could reverse engineer ro develop anoth er process to translate grooves back to sound.
Don't know, may need to pass that over to our local Makers group just to see what they could come up with.
And of course CD's would win out, they are smaller and less easily damaged t a vinyl album is. Of course, by that same standard, I'm surprised that mini- didn't dislodge CD, or the PSP CD cartridge didn't usurp all of them.
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Its also sad that so many old vhs tapes are going to landfills.
Well, the problem with video TAPES is that the more times they pass across that spinning head the thiner the tape gets and they start getting stretched until they are no longer viewable. :( Which makes it such a shame that the
On 10-06-19 11:31, Arelor wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-
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Re: Vinyl
By: Lupine Furmen to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sun Oct 06 2019 09:15 am
Well, the problem with video TAPES is that the more times they pass across that spinning head the thiner the tape gets and they start getting stretched until they are no longer viewable. :( Which makes it such a shame that the
Another problem nobody ever mentions is that VCRs are such fragile machines too. Many people has nice VHS collections, but their players
died long ago and they don't feel like buying a new one, so they can
watch their collection.
Well, the problem with video TAPES is that the more times they pass across that spinning head the thiner the tape gets and they start getting stretched until they are no longer viewable. :( Which makes it such a shame that the Laser Disks never really took off.
And it's getting harder to find a repair tech to fix a VCR. I have a really nice Panasonic VCR, which I have had since the late 90s or very early 2000s. It had some issue with the tape loading mechanism a bit over 10 years ago, and I was able to get it fixed by a local tech at the time. It hasn't had a lot of use since then, but it's one machine I'd like to keep going, as long as there are VHS tapes lying around that can be played.
<SNIP remaining uncalled-for insults and stupidity>
Re: Vinyl
By: Lupine Furmen to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sun Oct 06 2019 09:15 am
Well, the problem with video TAPES is that the more times they pass acr that spinning head the thiner the tape gets and they start getting stretched until they are no longer viewable. :( Which makes it such a shame that the Laser Disks never really took off.
Laserdisc was essentially replaced with DVDs. I'm not sure anyone really mi
Nightfox
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Re: Re: Vinyl
By: Gamgee to Zombie Mambo on Fri Oct 04 2019 07:15 pm
<SNIP remaining uncalled-for insults and stupidity>
Sometimes people need to be reminded that they are dicks.
You obviously need another reminder.
You're a dick.
I hope you enjoyed another round of uncalled for insults and
stupidty.
Well, the problem with video TAPES is that the more times they pass acr that spinning head the thiner the tape gets and they start getting stretched until they are no longer viewable. :( Which makes it such a shame that the Laser Disks never really took off.
Laserdisc was essentially replaced with DVDs. I'm not sure anyone really mi
Nightfox
Laserdisc was also derailed by RCA's CED technology. It was an analog video format that used a stylus to read video. It was better than VHS, but still a bit glitchy. People mistook laser video for CED.Yeah, I don't remember which was which but you had the format that you took out of the sleeve and place in the player like a record, and then you had the ones (I think it was the Selectavision) that you inserted the cartridges and the machine took the disk out as you removed the cartridge. The had teh nice benefit of the disk never being touched by your hands preventing oil transfer and also reducing the chances of it getting scratched.
Re: Vinyl
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Oct 07 2019 13:45:00
Well, the problem with video TAPES is that the more times they pa acr that spinning head the thiner the tape gets and they start getting stretched until they are no longer viewable. :( Which mak it such a shame that the Laser Disks never really took off.
Laserdisc was essentially replaced with DVDs. I'm not sure anyone rea mi
Nightfox
Laserdisc was also derailed by RCA's CED technology. It was an analog vi format that used a stylus to read video. It was better than VHS, but sti a bit glitchy. People mistook laser video for CED.Yeah, I don't remember which was which but you had the format that you took of the sleeve and place in the player like a record, and then you had the on (I think it was the Selectavision) that you inserted the cartridges and the machine took the disk out as you removed the cartridge. The had teh nice benefit of the disk never being touched by your hands preventing oil transfe and also reducing the chances of it getting scratched.
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it to skip. Laser disc was a large (12 inch?) version of a compact disc, and most movies would require two discs to fit everything on.
Similar to
early DVD's they'd add a bunch of extra content to fill the extra space
Laserdisc was also derailed by RCA's CED technology. It was an analog video format that used a stylus to read video. It was better than VHS, but still a bit glitchy. People mistook laser video for CED.
Re: Vinyl
By: Lupine Furmen to Moondog on Mon Oct 07 2019 10:30 pm
Re: Vinyl
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Oct 07 2019 13:45:00
Well, the problem with video TAPES is that the more times they pa acr that spinning head the thiner the tape gets and they start getting stretched until they are no longer viewable. :( Which mak it such a shame that the Laser Disks never really took off.
Laserdisc was essentially replaced with DVDs. I'm not sure anyone rea mi
Nightfox
Laserdisc was also derailed by RCA's CED technology. It was an analog vi format that used a stylus to read video. It was better than VHS, but sti a bit glitchy. People mistook laser video for CED.Yeah, I don't remember which was which but you had the format that you took of the sleeve and place in the player like a record, and then you had the on (I think it was the Selectavision) that you inserted the cartridges and the machine took the disk out as you removed the cartridge. The had teh nice benefit of the disk never being touched by your hands preventing oil transfe and also reducing the chances of it getting scratched.
That was CED. It was analog, so there was a physical stylus, and it was possible to get dust and other particles in the grooves that would cause it to skip. Laser disc was a large (12 inch?) version of a compact disc, and most movies would require two discs to fit everything on. Similar to early DVD's they'd add a bunch of extra content to fill the extra space
This youtuber guy Technology Connections makes great videos of old tech and it's history. CED was quite the interesting "thing". Apparently the discs were a technological marvel of it's time. The player... not so much.
Re: Vinyl
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Oct 07 2019 01:45 pm
Laserdisc was also derailed by RCA's CED technology. It was an analog video format that used a stylus to read video. It was better than VHS, but still a bit glitchy. People mistook laser video for CED.This youtuber guy Technology Connections makes great videos of old tech and it's history. CED was quite the interesting "thing". Apparently the discs were a technological marvel of it's time. The player... not so much.
Re: Vinyl
By: Moondog to Lupine Furmen on Tue Oct 08 2019 09:50 am
it to skip. Laser disc was a large (12 inch?) version of a compact disc and most movies would require two discs to fit everything on.
My understanding is that laserdisc was analog though (in contrast to CDs, wh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaserDisc#Design
Similar to
early DVD's they'd add a bunch of extra content to fill the extra space
Early DVDs? I thought they still usually put extras on DVDs (and blu-ray di
Nightfox
Re: Vinyl
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Oct 07 2019 01:45 pm
Laserdisc was also derailed by RCA's CED technology. It was an analog vi format that used a stylus to read video. It was better than VHS, but sti a bit glitchy. People mistook laser video for CED.
This youtuber guy Technology Connections makes great videos of old tech and
https://youtu.be/PnpX8d8zRIA
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Re: Vinyl
By: Android8675 to Moondog on Tue Oct 08 2019 09:04 am
This youtuber guy Technology Connections makes great videos of old tech and it's history. CED was quite the interesting "thing". Apparently the discs were a technological marvel of it's time. The player... not so mu
I also like the LGR guy on YouTube - though he tends to focus more on comput
Nightfox
Re: Vinyl
By: Android8675 to Moondog on Tue Oct 08 2019 09:04:58
Re: Vinyl
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Oct 07 2019 01:45 pm
Laserdisc was also derailed by RCA's CED technology. It was an analog video format that used a stylus to read video. It was better than VHS but still a bit glitchy. People mistook laser video for CED.This youtuber guy Technology Connections makes great videos of old tech a it's history. CED was quite the interesting "thing". Apparently the discs were a technological marvel of it's time. The player... not so much.
I thought that LaserDiscs were double sided. I recall havging to turn a disk over.
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Extra footage can be found on most DVD's but it's not as elaborate as it was when the media was new, and they were trying to put added value in choosing the newer formats. I recall when additional tracks would be added on CD's asa selling point.
LGR is entertaining. First video I saw of his had to do with midi output devices from the 90's.
Laserdisc was also derailed by RCA's CED technology. It was an
analog video format that used a stylus to read video. It was better
than VHS, but still a bit glitchy. People mistook laser video for
CED.
This youtuber guy Technology Connections makes great videos of old
tech and it's history. CED was quite the interesting "thing".
Apparently the discs were a technological marvel of it's time. The
player... not so much.
I thought that LaserDiscs were double sided. I recall havging to turn a disk over.
I thought that LaserDiscs were double sided. I recall havging to turn a disk over.
I thought that LaserDiscs were double sided. I recall havging to turn a disk over.
I thought that LaserDiscs were double sided. I recall havging to turn
a disk over.
Some of them for sure were. Two of my aunts and my grandparents all had laserdisc players, and you did usually have to turn them over about midway through a movie.
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Re: Re: Vinyl
By: Vk3jed to Arelor on Mon Oct 07 2019 09:46:00
And it's getting harder to find a repair tech to fix a VCR. I have a really nice Panasonic VCR, which I have had since the late 90s or very early 2000s. It had some issue with the tape loading mechanism a bit over 10 years ago, and I was able to get it fixed by a local tech at the time. It hasn't had a lot of use since then, but it's one machine I'd like to keep going, as long as there are VHS tapes lying around that can be played.
If you have a local "Makers" group, I'm sure there is someone there
that would be able to service any of your old tech.
On 10-08-19 09:50, Moondog wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-
That was CED. It was analog, so there was a physical stylus, and it
was possible to get dust and other particles in the grooves that would cause it to skip. Laser disc was a large (12 inch?) version of a
compact disc, and most movies would require two discs to fit everything on. Similar to early DVD's they'd add a bunch of extra content to fill the extra space
On 10-08-19 10:07, Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
My understanding is that laserdisc was analog though (in contrast to
CDs, which are digital): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaserDisc#Design
Similar to
early DVD's they'd add a bunch of extra content to fill the extra space
Early DVDs? I thought they still usually put extras on DVDs (and
blu-ray discs). The extras are one reason I still like having movies
on optical discs. You don't get the extras with streaming versions of movies.
On 10-09-19 18:26, Nightfox wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Another format I had heard about was Video CD, and Super Video CD. I don't think those were very popular in the US, but back in the day I
had tried encoding some movies to Video CD format and burning them to
CDs to see what they looked like when playing them. It seemed many DVD players in the US could play Video CD, even if it wasn't very popular
in the US.
Another format I had heard about was Video CD, and Super Video CD. I don't think those were very popular in the US, but back in the day I had tried encoding some movies to Video CD format and burning them to CDs to see what they looked like when playing them. It seemed many DVD players in the US could play Video CD, even if it wasn't very popular in the US.
Re: Vinyl
By: Dumas Walker to LUPINE FURMEN on Wed Oct 09 2019 05:23 pm
I thought that LaserDiscs were double sided. I recall havging to turn
a disk over.
Some of them for sure were. Two of my aunts and my grandparents all had laserdisc players, and you did usually have to turn them over about mid through a movie.
That would be annoying. DVD and blu-ray can usually hold a whole movie, unl
Another format I had heard about was Video CD, and Super Video CD. I don't
them. It seemed many DVD players in the US could play Video CD, even if it
Nightfox
Another format I had heard about was Video CD, and Super Video CD. I don't think those were very popular in the US, but back in the day I had tried encoding some movies to Video CD format and burning them to CDs to see what they looked like when playing them. It seemed many DVD players in the US could play Video CD, even if it wasn't very popular in the US.
Another format I had heard about was Video CD, and Super Video CD. I don't thi
k those were very popular in the US, but back in the day I had tried encoding s
me movies to Video CD format and burning them to CDs to see what they looked li
e when playing them. It seemed many DVD players in the US could play Video CD,
even if it wasn't very popular in the US.
Re: Vinyl
By: Dumas Walker to LUPINE FURMEN on Wed Oct 09 2019 05:23 pm
I thought that LaserDiscs were double sided. I recall havging to turn
a disk over.
Some of them for sure were. Two of my aunts and my grandparents all had laserdisc players, and you did usually have to turn them over about midway through a movie.
That would be annoying. DVD and blu-ray can usually hold a whole movie, unless it's a fairly long movie.
That would be annoying. DVD and blu-ray can usually hold a whole
movie, unless it's a fairly long movie.
That's why we have dual-layer discs (for longer movies). Some players have an obvious "layer change" delay, but the better ones do not. Still, its better than having to flip the disc.
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