On 5/6/22 6:39 AM, MRO wrote:

You can turn any machine into a Linux thin client fairly easily. I used
this 20 years ago, to be able to use my "modern" Linux machine from a 486, >> or allow my sister to use my computer (and access the internet) from her
older machine in her bedroom.

i had some asus netbooks that couldn't run linux.

A lot of the netbooks and some of the really chromebooks are eMMC
memory, which requires flashing and a regular install typically doesn't
work. There are usually instructions, but it's just something I avoid,
unless it's for someone who is going to be using ChromeOS already installed.
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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sat Jun 04 2022 11:53 am

On 5/6/22 6:39 AM, MRO wrote:

You can turn any machine into a Linux thin client fairly easily. I used >> this 20 years ago, to be able to use my "modern" Linux machine from a 486, >> or allow my sister to use my computer (and access the internet) from her
older machine in her bedroom.

i had some asus netbooks that couldn't run linux.

A lot of the netbooks and some of the really chromebooks are eMMC
memory, which requires flashing and a regular install typically doesn't work. There are usually instructions, but it's just something I avoid, unless it's for someone who is going to be using ChromeOS already installed.

well in my case that wasnt it. i could install anything but linux.
i think it had something to do with the bios.
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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sat Jun 04 2022 11:53 am

On 5/6/22 6:39 AM, MRO wrote:

You can turn any machine into a Linux thin client fairly easily. I used >> this 20 years ago, to be able to use my "modern" Linux machine from a 486 >> or allow my sister to use my computer (and access the internet) from her >> older machine in her bedroom.

i had some asus netbooks that couldn't run linux.

A lot of the netbooks and some of the really chromebooks are eMMC
memory, which requires flashing and a regular install typically doesn't work. There are usually instructions, but it's just something I avoid, unless it's for someone who is going to be using ChromeOS already installed. --
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I could've sworn most Asus netbooks shipped with linux, if they didn't ship with XP Lite. My Asus eee701 (4gb flash) ran Ubuntu and it's lite variants (xubuntu, easy peasy) with no problems. Problem was when it came to upgrade, and Ubuntu's standard install wanted more than 4gb to install. I got around
it (sort of) by having the bios boot to the SD slot, and installed a 32 gb sd card. I looked for a heavier duty yet fast access card, 32gb so it wouldn't
be too slow.

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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Moondog to Tracker1 on Sun Jun 05 2022 12:19 am

I could've sworn most Asus netbooks shipped with linux, if they didn't ship with XP Lite. My Asus eee701 (4gb flash) ran Ubuntu and it's lite variants (xubuntu, easy peasy) with no problems. Problem was when it came to upgrade, and Ubuntu's standard install wanted more than 4gb to install. I got around
it (sort of) by having the bios boot to the SD slot, and installed a 32 gb sd card. I looked for a heavier duty yet fast access card, 32gb so it wouldn't
be too slow.

mine had windows 7 starter edition

it was the asus eee pc 1025c and does not support 64bit or pae

my mom had an acer netbook that had windows and linux images you could install on it.
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Moondog wrote to Tracker1 <=-

I could've sworn most Asus netbooks shipped with linux, if they didn't ship with XP Lite.

They did. The Windows version cost more because it needed extra memory, so most people opted for the cheaper version.

But some people bought the Windows version to get the extra memory, then installed Linux on that.


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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Ron Lauzon to Moondog on Sun Jun 05 2022 04:04 pm

Moondog wrote to Tracker1 <=-

I could've sworn most Asus netbooks shipped with linux, if they didn't ship with XP Lite.

They did. The Windows version cost more because it needed extra memory, so most people opted for the cheaper version.

But some people bought the Windows version to get the extra memory, then installed Linux on that.

i didnt see anything like that. from what i saw they all had the same amount of memory.
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MRO wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

i didnt see anything like that. from what i saw they all had the same amount of memory.

You sort of had to watch the stores closely to have seen it.

First, the Asus eee PC comes out (7" display) - Linux only because Microsoft wanted $100 for a Windows license - which would have doubled the cost of the machine.

Shortly after that, Microsoft noticed how well they sold - without Windows. They couldn't have people noticing how good Linux worked, so they changed their tune and dropped the price.

But Windows didn't work well with the current hardware specs, so Asus made a model with extra RAM and bundled it with Windows - again for more money. That's when Linux people were buying the Windows version and loading Linux.

But shortly after that, Asus came out with a 9" display version, more RAM, etc.


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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Dr. What to MRO on Mon Jun 06 2022 09:19 am

You sort of had to watch the stores closely to have seen it.

First, the Asus eee PC comes out (7" display) - Linux only because Microsoft wanted $100 for a Windows license - which would have doubled the cost of the machine.

Shortly after that, Microsoft noticed how well they sold - without Windows. They couldn't have people noticing how good Linux worked, so they changed their tune and dropped the price.

But Windows didn't work well with the current hardware specs, so Asus made a model with extra RAM and bundled it with Windows - again for more money. That's when Linux people were buying the Windows version and loading Linux.

But shortly after that, Asus came out with a 9" display version, more RAM, etc.

i was watching, i didnt see any of that stuff you are talking about.
i used to run my bbses on netbooks. i had 3 of them.
there were various models but most of them had 1gig of ram, later on they had more ram like the model i linked. i didnt see a first wave of linux netbooks.
i've owned 6 netbooks. newegg doesnt let me go that far back in my history to pull up the models, though.
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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: MRO to Dr. What on Mon Jun 06 2022 03:15 pm

Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Dr. What to MRO on Mon Jun 06 2022 09:19 am

You sort of had to watch the stores closely to have seen it.

First, the Asus eee PC comes out (7" display) - Linux only because Micros wanted $100 for a Windows license - which would have doubled the cost of machine.

Shortly after that, Microsoft noticed how well they sold - without Window They couldn't have people noticing how good Linux worked, so they changed their tune and dropped the price.

But Windows didn't work well with the current hardware specs, so Asus mad model with extra RAM and bundled it with Windows - again for more money. That's when Linux people were buying the Windows version and loading Linu

But shortly after that, Asus came out with a 9" display version, more RAM etc.

i was watching, i didnt see any of that stuff you are talking about.
i used to run my bbses on netbooks. i had 3 of them.
there were various models but most of them had 1gig of ram, later on they ha i've owned 6 netbooks. newegg doesnt let me go that far back in my history

As mentioned, I had an eee 701 I had upgraded to 1gb of ram and a 4gb onboard ssd. Later on I received a hand me down Dell Mini Inspiron 10 witht he worst onboard Intel chipset and cpu combination. Ubuntu ran like a dog on it. The last one was a 10" HP with a 16gb ssd. It was also a good host for Ubuntu.
I still use the HP mini for setting up a serial session with my Chrony F1.

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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Jun 07 2022 11:41 pm

As mentioned, I had an eee 701 I had upgraded to 1gb of ram and a 4gb onboard ssd. Later on I received a hand me down Dell Mini Inspiron 10 witht he worst onboard Intel chipset and cpu combination. Ubuntu ran like a dog on it. The last one was a 10" HP with a 16gb ssd. It was also a good host for Ubuntu.
I still use the HP mini for setting up a serial session with my Chrony F1.

maybe this linux and windows fight on weak computers was a regional thing.

the only stores i was watching was kmart and bestbuy.
I'm not sure if microsoft was really that focused on getting into battles back then, though. weren't they focused on taking over the phone market? would they really care about the netbook market?
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MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-

Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Dr. What to MRO on Mon Jun 06 2022 09:19 am

First, the Asus eee PC comes out (7" display) - Linux only because Microsoft wanted $100 for a Windows license - which would have doubled the cost of the machine.

i was watching, i didnt see any of that stuff you are talking about.

I think those were the very first Asus 700 eeePC's. They had "Xandros" Linux IIRC.

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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Jun 09 2022 05:07 am

Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Jun 07 2022 11:41 pm

As mentioned, I had an eee 701 I had upgraded to 1gb of ram and a 4gb onboard ssd. Later on I received a hand me down Dell Mini Inspiron 10 wi he worst onboard Intel chipset and cpu combination. Ubuntu ran like a do on it. The last one was a 10" HP with a 16gb ssd. It was also a good ho for Ubuntu.
I still use the HP mini for setting up a serial session with my Chrony F1

maybe this linux and windows fight on weak computers was a regional thing.

the only stores i was watching was kmart and bestbuy.
I'm not sure if microsoft was really that focused on getting into battles ba

The netbooks I saw in the store shelves were running a light version of XP. Online stores sold both linux and XP light netbooks. Windows 7 had been out, and i thought it was weird to roll back to XP. Then my niece and nephew got
in a fight over my nephew's netbook, and damaged the hard drive. I can't reca ll what brand but it had a 250gb spinner in it. The media restore disk was
an option to make from the pc if you had an external DVD. Not sure if a boota ble USB was an option. I had a copy of Win7 and threw it on. It ran ok but took awhile to boot up. The kids used it mainly to run Itunes and sync up their Ipods

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Boy I remember those EEE pc's. I got one for my wife's grandma when she turned 75. It was delightful to see here enjoy that little computer.

Netbooks were something of a step too soon. We didn't have operating systems back then that could honestly support it. Take a modern day chromebook and shrink it down, you have a perfect EEE pc.

I still have my 701 in my upstairs attic. Believe it or not .. it still works.

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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Grimpen to MRO on Thu Jun 09 2022 06:09 am

MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-

Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Dr. What to MRO on Mon Jun 06 2022 09:19 am

First, the Asus eee PC comes out (7" display) - Linux only because Micros wanted $100 for a Windows license - which would have doubled the cost of machine.

i was watching, i didnt see any of that stuff you are talking about.

I think those were the very first Asus 700 eeePC's. They had "Xandros" Linu IIRC.

-G

Yes, it had a strange name like Xandros on it. I replaced it with Ubuntu.
At first there was a problem with driver support in linux for the broadcomm wireless it had built-in. NDISwrapper worked ok, then drivers appeared soon after in the repositories


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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Ron Lauzon to Moondog on Sun Jun 05 2022 04:04 pm

I could've sworn most Asus netbooks shipped with linux, if they
didn't ship with XP Lite.

But some people bought the Windows version to get the extra memory, then installed Linux on that.

Yep,I did that. I ran across my old Asus EeePC the other day. I can't find the power cord though, but I wanted to see if I could still run something Tiny Core Linux, Puppy Linux, or even Mint. I'm pretty sure I bought it back in 2008 or so.

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Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: DaiTengu to Ron Lauzon on Wed Jun 15 2022 08:03 am

Re: Re: Cracked cases
By: Ron Lauzon to Moondog on Sun Jun 05 2022 04:04 pm

I could've sworn most Asus netbooks shipped with linux, if they
didn't ship with XP Lite.

But some people bought the Windows version to get the extra memory, then installed Linux on that.

Yep,I did that. I ran across my old Asus EeePC the other day. I can't find the power cord though, but I wanted to see if I could still run something Tiny Core Linux, Puppy Linux, or even Mint. I'm pretty sure I bought it back in 2008 or so.

i used to take mine to work and mess with it when i took a dump.
that was before smartphones were so popular.
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