• Re: Hello

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thu May 26 13:57:51 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to MRO on Thu May 26 2022 12:19 pm

    Paradoxically, your yells in Facebook might be less inpactful to each of those 6 million than to each of the 6 BBS users. It is a supply and demand thing. When you post something in a venue with 6 million posters, your post becomes backround noise nobody notices. With only 6 posters, your post is a big percentage of the global traffic of the platform.


    yeah since i am a huge troll with powerful botnets i need a lot of attention. also on facebook i've been accused of being a bot. i think bots accused me of being a bot, though.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thu May 26 13:58:30 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Thu May 26 2022 12:23 pm


    I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluc­a is to Spain.

    If Andaluc­a split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD



    if we could get bugs bunny to REALLY saw off florida AND california like the cartoon, that would be great.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thu May 26 14:04:07 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Thu May 26 2022 12:33 pm

    It pisses me off no end when I am at, say, a My Little Pony themed IRC channel and somebody shows up and tries to convince everybody to move over to their new Discord server (which is not their server, btw). It is like religious zealots moving from door to door and trying to get you to join


    i thought i told you to never mention that!
    act normal! no brony!
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thu May 26 16:02:18 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Arelor on Thu May 26 2022 01:56 pm

    if you want i can make you a znc account.
    irc bouncers are usually feature rich and do more than one thing.


    Thanks for the offering. I already have a bunch of shell servers for running IRC clients remotely, so I don t need to bother you :-)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Thu May 26 13:46:34 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Thu May 26 2022 12:17 pm

    I am disgusted by the modern WWW. The one served over http(s). It is all avertisements and trackers and cookie warnings all around. Then you want to visit some blog and it downloads 25 megabytes of javascript libraries to draw a fancy background.

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    I used to have a "made with notepad" and "made with vi" images on my website, I hacked it together by hand for the first couple of years.

    I know Google has implied that http-only would start to be lowered in search results and eventually removed altogether.

    Gemini and Gopher are looking pretty good for minimal, text-friendly services.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Thu May 26 13:47:50 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Thu May 26 2022 12:23 pm

    I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluc­a is to Spain.

    If Andaluc­a split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD

    Until the 5th largest economy in the WORLD split from the rest of the US, that is.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Thu May 26 19:27:41 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Thu May 26 2022 12:23 pm

    I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluc¡a is to Spain.

    If Andaluc¡a split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD

    I don't know how Andalucia is. But I've heard some people in the US say they wouldn't mind if California broke off and sank into the ocean.. Everyone is different though. I know not everyone agrees with each other, but that's natural..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Thu May 26 19:44:26 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Thu May 26 2022 12:17 pm

    I am disgusted by the modern WWW. The one served over http(s). It is all

    ? Was there ever a WWW that wasn't served over http(s)?

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 26 19:47:17 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Thu May 26 2022 01:46 pm

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.

    Nightfox

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 27 20:28:00 2022
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Boraxman <=-

    @MSGID: <628E2F10.51476.dove.dove-gen@realitycheckbbs.org>
    @REPLY: <628C3308.56291.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
    Boraxman wrote to Andre <=-

    You can use a simply Discord client, but then people will expect you to see the animated GIFs, images, video chat.

    Sort of like those Fidonet to Signal gates. Meme posts in Signal end
    up as a URL to an image, which doesn't carry well to a BBS terminal
    session.

    "All on one" solutions generally suffer from this problem. There is
    merit to the "do one thing, and do it well" philosophy.

    Agreed. The only effective "swiss army knife" that I've experienced
    was Netscape Communicator, which, back in 2000, was an effective web
    browser, mail, IRC and news client.

    I used to use that when it became Netscape 7, and then Mozilla, but then, I only used the Web Browser and mail client, and maybe the news client a little, never the IRC one. But that is the only 'multi-tool' that sort of worked.

    MS Office seems to cripple workflows, when compared to using specific tools to solve specific problems..

    Oh, there is one "all on one" which works, and that is Emacs. Technically its just a LISP Machine which defaults to a text editor, but its flexible enough to not constrain you at all.


    I like to run a lean environment on the BBS, and loaded Mozilla
    Seamonkey on it; Seamonkey is a continuation of Communicator, and
    it's still a decent multi-tool - and it saves me from running a
    separate email client and IRC client on the BBS box.

    I use Seamonkey on my laptop, but prefer HexChat or IRSSI for IRC

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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Boraxman on Fri May 27 07:37:06 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 27 2022 08:28 pm

    Oh, there is one "all on one" which works, and that is Emacs. Technically its just a LISP Machine which defaults to a text editor, but its flexible enough to not constrain you at all.

    This explains so much of what I've seen you write in the past.


    - Andre

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  • From Kaelon@VERT to Ennev on Fri May 27 09:58:40 2022
    Re: Forced Upgrade
    By: Ennev to Moondog on Tue May 10 2022 11:36 am

    Look windows now. Windows 11 requires you to have TPM 2.0. It's known that it could also be done software side. But hey! We need to sell new machines.

    Totally. There still isn't a compelling reason to upgrade to Windows 11. It is far less performant than Windows 10 for gaming and even business computing; you won't see massive adoption by "enthusiasts" until a lot of the advanced multimedia libraries, like DirectX, become Windows 11 exclusives.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Kaelon on Fri May 27 13:06:36 2022
    Re: Forced Upgrade
    By: Kaelon to Ennev on Fri May 27 2022 09:58 am

    Totally. There still isn't a compelling reason to upgrade to Windows 11. It is far less performant than Windows 10 for gaming and even business computing; you won't see massive adoption by "enthusiasts" until a lot of the advanced multimedia libraries, like DirectX, become Windows 11 exclusives.

    Where do you see that Windows 11 is far less performant than Windows 10? I've upgraded to Windows 11, and I enjoy playing PC games and haven't seen any reduction in performance. One of the games I sometimes play recently is Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, and it runs just fine in Windows 11. I haven't seen any reduction in performance with it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Nightfox on Fri May 27 15:46:40 2022
    Re: Forced Upgrade
    By: Nightfox to Kaelon on Fri May 27 2022 01:06 pm

    Where do you see that Windows 11 is far less performant than Windows 10? I've upgraded to Windows 11, and I enjoy playing PC games and haven't seen any reduction in performance. One of the games I sometimes play recently is Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, and it runs just fine in Windows 11. I haven't seen any reduction in performance with it.


    The UI is a hell of a lot cleaner too. The one thing I've read is that for people that don't use Teams, you can squeeze a little more performance by going to the taskbar settings and shutting off "chat."


    - Andre

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 28 01:57:46 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon May 16 2022 06:47 am

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of

    It felt like you were part of a secret society that few people you encountered even knew about. You'd meet someone and mention something about connect tones or downloading, and if you saw a glint in their
    eyes knew that they knew.

    I Made a BBS data base program that I made BBS list's from, this program would make a page formated .txt BBS list that I would then upload the .txt file to all local BBSes.
    After awhile my BBS became pretty popular.
    The BBS program I made was added to several shareware CD's like Owlware.
    but you're right it was like a little club that few knew about.
    I lived a few miles from Clark Development (the makers of PCBOARD) so thats what I ran at the time.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Sat May 28 02:04:34 2022
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue May 17 2022 01:08 pm

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It

    You copied a paragraph I wrote to someone else and pasted it verbatim in your reply to boraxman.. ?

    no I'm not sure how that got attributed to me.

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  • From Jas Hud@VERT to Andre on Sat May 28 03:39:41 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Andre to the doctor on Tue May 24 2022 07:02 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 11:15 am

    I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
    tech people?

    It's not much better the the dipshit comment he was responding to.

    "the the" ?

    thanks nobody. go back under your rock.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Fri May 27 06:01:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 28 10:22:16 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 27 2022 06:01 am

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is
    creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information
    encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...

    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I'm not sure I see the problem.

    Nightfox

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 28 12:43:16 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 27 2022 06:01 am

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...

    I would 100% like to visit your Firefly fan appreciation site, encrypted or not.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Kaelon@VERT to Nightfox on Sat May 28 10:50:01 2022
    Re: Forced Upgrade
    By: Nightfox to Kaelon on Fri May 27 2022 01:06 pm

    Where do you see that Windows 11 is far less performant than Windows 10? I've upgraded to Windows 11, and I enjoy playing PC games and haven't seen any reduction in performance. One of the games I sometimes play recently is Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, and it runs just fine in Windows 11. I haven't seen any reduction in performance with it.

    This is observed really at the highest-end of gaming, but as I am an enthusiast, I see this all the time. With all of the settings maxed out in Microsoft Flight Simulator, assuming a 12th Generation i9 Intel Chip, a GeForce 3090 GPU, or equivalents in both categories, I measured about an 11-18 fps drop in Windows 11 vs. Windows 10.

    Originally, about a year ago, this was about a 20-30 fps difference, so things are improving, but the libraries and DLLs aren't yet on par for DirectX in both platforms.

    PCGamer has a lot of scholarship on how Windows 11 is generally not yet a safe bet for the highest-end gamers, and those who play competitively in e-Sports. For hobbyists, there shouldn't be much of an issue, but min-maxers, like myself, will notice.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 28 14:52:44 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 27 2022 06:01 am

    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...



    some people use the same passwords all over. also they can intercept email addresses.

    you claim to be a tech guy who worked at paypal but you always have the wrong opinion on everything. did you get these wrong ideas from your companies or bring them there? we should always have as much security as possible.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Sat May 28 21:13:31 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 28 2022 10:22 am

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...

    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I'm not sure I see the problem.

    Nightfox

    The trend being imposed by web browser manufacturers and search engines is to drop http without the TLS.

    I think google is already penalizing http sites which don't offer an https counterpart and some web browsers don't want to connect to http sites unless http is asked explicitly.

    So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible without the user having to wade through dire brower warnings.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun May 29 08:40:57 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat May 28 2022 09:13 pm

    So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible without the user having to wade through dire brower warnings.



    you could always have a self signed cert, a free cert or use cloudflare like me.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sun May 29 09:53:03 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun May 29 2022 08:40 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat May 28 2022 09:13 pm

    So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible with the user having to wade through dire brower warnings.



    you could always have a self signed cert, a free cert or use cloudflare like me.

    Self-signed certs are fine for sites your three buddies and you use. For widespread use they don't really cut it.

    Free certs still require the certificate authority to be on board. Nowadays I don't put it bellow the woke brigade to pest certificate authorities to revoke the certificates of websites they want to cancel. Free certificate authorities are not free from this. There is a number of reasons why pestering certificate authorities is less effective than trying to cajole ISPs but still I think it is dangerous to require people to get the aproval of a CA in order to have a website.

    Cloudflare, see above. Besides, I don't like the fact CLoudflare gets to see, analyze and correlate so much Internet traffic. They are a Google-grade threat for privacy.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun May 29 16:51:58 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun May 29 2022 09:53 am


    Self-signed certs are fine for sites your three buddies and you use. For widespread use they don't really cut it.

    Free certs still require the certificate authority to be on board. Nowadays I don't put it bellow the woke brigade to pest certificate authorities to revoke the certificates of websites they want to cancel. Free certificate authorities are not free from this. There is a number of reasons why pestering certificate authorities is less effective than trying to cajole ISPs but still I think it is dangerous to require people to get the aproval of a CA in order to have a website.

    Cloudflare, see above. Besides, I don't like the fact CLoudflare gets to see, analyze and correlate so much Internet traffic. They are a Google-grade threat for privacy.


    well the way i see it is our privacey is gone. we gave it up many years ago willingly. and once it's gone you will not get it back.

    it's really evident with these phones we are all addicted to. this thing is spying on me all day and night and listening to me. it's showing me stuff in search results and ads when i am having private conversations with people face to face.
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  • From Kaelon@VERT to Arelor on Mon May 30 13:34:09 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun May 29 2022 09:53 am

    Cloudflare, see above. Besides, I don't like the fact CLoudflare gets to see, analyze and correlate so much Internet traffic. They are a Google-grade threat for privacy.

    I think, compared to OpenDNS/Cisco, Google, etc., CloudFlare is one of the most transparent, privacy-friendly, and accountable services out there. The fact that they go to great lengths and even hire third-parties to audit their stated practices (for example, they don't write any traffic logs beyond a technically-necessary 24-hour buffer period), definitely helps provide more confidence than any other provider.

    What concerns in particular with Cloudflare do you have? I'm speaking mostly from the authoritative DNS space, and not necessarily from the TLS/SSL certificate space (though, the practices are supposedly uniform).
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Mon May 30 15:05:00 2022
    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I
    not sure I see the problem.

    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.


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  • From vxzero@VERT/SPACEPTR to MRO on Mon May 30 20:51:38 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun May 29 2022 09:53 am

    well the way i see it is our privacey is gone. we gave it up many years ago willingly. and once it's gone you will not get it back.

    it's really evident with these phones we are all addicted to. this thing is spying on me all day and night and listening to me. it's showing me stuff
    in search results and ads when i am having private conversations with people face to face.

    I don't think our privacy is completely gone, it just seems that way because we aren't doing anything from stopping large corporations from using using us as their product.

    I'm fed up with crappy phones, so I'm making my own "communicator" device which can take any sort of cellular, WiFi, Lora, packet, etc. as comms. Here's a link (sorry it's on the web, my BBS isn't ready to directly link images yet):

    I present, the Hackberry: https://imgur.com/a/rqIhdx2

    Since I've been through every line of code on this device, I know that it's not stealing my information or advertising to me. It's not finished yet, but it's awesome knowing I can make it do whatever I want.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Tue May 31 00:23:28 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Mon May 30 2022 03:05 pm

    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.

    Search engines penalize websites nowdays that aren't using SSL, so plenty of sites "need to".

    DaiTengu

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  • From Minex@VERT/TDOD to MRO on Tue May 31 10:27:32 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun May 29 2022 04:51 pm

    it's really evident with these phones we are all addicted to. this thing is spying on me all day and night and listening to me. it's showing me stuff in search results and ads when i am having private conversations with people face to face.

    There is definitely an addiction to cell phones. The hard part is quitting too. I tried and failed. Lets face it, cell phones are just handy. I tried to switch to the PinePhone but that was just an awful experience. Nothing works, and at this poiunt, I doubt it ever will. I then moved to a flip phone and realized how much I miss even some of the basic cell phone features -- like a map.

    The Dawn of Demise BBS (tdod.org)

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Tue May 31 16:38:00 2022
    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.

    Search engines penalize websites nowdays that aren't using SSL, so plenty of tes "need to".

    "Need to" in quotes I will agree with.

    As someone pointed out, that could turn into a slipperly slope.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Minex on Tue May 31 17:31:43 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Minex to MRO on Tue May 31 2022 10:27 am

    There is definitely an addiction to cell phones. The hard part is quitting too. I tried and failed. Lets face it, cell phones are just handy. I tried to switch to the PinePhone but that was just an awful experience. Nothing works, and at this poiunt, I doubt it ever will. I then moved to a flip phone and realized how much I miss even some of the basic cell phone features -- like a map.

    A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic cell phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Minex on Tue May 31 22:13:36 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Minex to MRO on Tue May 31 2022 10:27 am


    There is definitely an addiction to cell phones. The hard part is quitting too. I tried and failed. Lets face it, cell phones are just handy. I tried to switch to the PinePhone but that was just an awful experience. Nothing works, and at this poiunt, I doubt it ever will. I then moved to a flip phone and realized how much I miss even some of the basic cell phone features -- like a map.

    The Dawn of Demise BBS (tdod.org)

    yup that ubuntu phone and pine phone sounded nice but they were just flops.
    we are slaves to our phones now.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue May 31 22:15:56 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Minex on Tue May 31 2022 05:31 pm


    A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic cell phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.


    basic cellphones are now smart phones.
    a flip phone is an antiquated cell phone
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  • From Multiplemiggs@VERT/CAVEBBS to vxzero on Tue May 31 21:57:00 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: vxzero to MRO on Mon May 30 2022 08:51 pm

    I'm fed up with crappy phones, so I'm making my own "communicator" device wh can take any sort of cellular, WiFi, Lora, packet, etc. as comms. Here's a link (sorry it's on the web, my BBS isn't ready to directly link images yet)

    I present, the Hackberry: https://imgur.com/a/rqIhdx2

    I'm fed up with crappy phones, so I'm making my own "communicator" device wh

    Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time that I have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies are purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to be constantly tracked.

    This looks like an interesting alternative.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Multiplemiggs on Wed Jun 1 01:21:36 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Multiplemiggs to vxzero on Tue May 31 2022 09:57 pm


    Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time that I have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies are purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to be constantly tracked.

    This looks like an interesting alternative.


    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Tue May 31 06:55:00 2022
    Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so
    I

    not sure I see the problem.

    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.

    Force the origin sites to use HTTPS? I thought they'd do an HTTPS to HTTP translation on their end if configured to do so. While this does break the intention of end-to-end encryption, it does provide a level of convenience
    for someone who doesn't want to deal with certificates but still mostly encrypt the transaction.

    I'd used Cloudflare for a hosted web site, played around with it on the BBS but ended up using NGINX Proxy Manager; apparently it can do the SSL encryption and hand off http to my origin servers. Then, I could take the certificates off of them (or run self-signed certificates) and keep the encryption while not worrying about trying to renew multiple letsencrypt certs.

    That's a bandaid until I learn how to do wildcard cert validation through
    DNS; I haven't gotten around to that yet.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Wed Jun 1 07:08:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to Minex <=-

    A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic cell phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.

    Even "dumb" phones are getting smarter. They all have to have at least 4g networking, since the 2g/3g networks are retired.

    I bought a Nokia 6300 4G for my daughter to bring to camp, and have been playing with it. Looks like a standard candy-bar Nokia, but it's got a nice color screen, an SD card slot, USB charging (haven't tried mounting it from
    my computer yet).

    It's also got Bluetooth, Google text-to-speech, so no more T9 text input -- and Google Maps, Facebook and Whatsapp, and a KaiOS app store.

    Not bad for $69, unlocked - and it fits in a pocket.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Multiplemiggs on Wed Jun 1 07:13:00 2022
    Multiplemiggs wrote to vxzero <=-

    Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time
    that I have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies are purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to be constantly tracked.

    They're not the ones that care about tracking us, they care about making the most money with the least spend. We were already tracked well enough on
    2g/3g anyways. :)

    By retiring the older networks they get to re-use tower space, saving costs. They get to force people to buy new phones, increasing revenue. They have
    more opportunity to charge outrageous overage charges with little or no warning, which increases their revenues.

    And, they all know they need to be competitive.

    That being said, I wonder what sort of market would be available to T-mobile or another provider if they committed to keeping their legacy networks
    around? Would there be enough people with flip phones and 3G iphones to make it a selling point?


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thu Jun 2 01:36:00 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue May 31 2022 10:15 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Minex on Tue May 31 2022 05:31 pm


    A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic c phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.


    basic cellphones are now smart phones.
    a flip phone is an antiquated cell phone

    There are flip phone apps. they're not as polished as smart phone apps. Browsing on a flip phone sucks. I tried to see as far as I can go before moving to a smart phone. My previous employer issued me an Iphone for work, h owever I kept all my private stuff on an old LG phone until 3G was finally dropped in my area.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thu Jun 2 01:38:00 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Multiplemiggs on Wed Jun 01 2022 01:21 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Multiplemiggs to vxzero on Tue May 31 2022 09:57 pm


    Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time that have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies ar purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to constantly tracked.

    This looks like an interesting alternative.


    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thu Jun 2 06:23:26 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:36 am


    There are flip phone apps. they're not as polished as smart phone apps. Browsing on a flip phone sucks. I tried to see as far as I can go before moving to a smart phone. My previous employer issued me an Iphone for work, h owever I kept all my private stuff on an old LG phone until 3G was finally dropped in my area.

    yeah, i had a flip phone back in 2004
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thu Jun 2 06:24:58 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    i'd rather have a smart phone.
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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jun 2 07:39:29 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue May 31 2022 06:55 am

    Force the origin sites to use HTTPS? I thought they'd do an HTTPS to HTTP translation on their end if configured to do so. While this does break the intention of end-to-end encryption, it does provide a level of convenience for someone who doesn't want to deal with certificates but still mostly encrypt the transaction.

    What he's trying to say is that search engines apply a small SEO penalty to sites that don't offer HTTPS.

    That's a bandaid until I learn how to do wildcard cert validation through DNS; I haven't gotten around to that yet.

    DNS doesn't have anything to do with certs. Wildcard certs are just a cert that is valid for any subdomain on the certs your domain. It's handled by the web server (or whatever is accepting the web connection).


    - Andre

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Andre on Thu Jun 2 16:56:22 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Andre to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jun 02 2022 07:39 am

    That's a bandaid until I learn how to do wildcard cert validation throu DNS; I haven't gotten around to that yet.

    DNS doesn't have anything to do with certs. Wildcard certs are just a cert t

    It does when you're validating with Let's Encrypt.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Belly on Thu Jun 2 19:27:50 2022
    It does when you're validating with Let's Encrypt.

    Ah, I get it now that they want a TXT record to validate that you own the domain.

    Doing all that convoluted nonsense with a proxy server just to avoid learning how to add a single TXT record. :-/


    - Andre

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Andre on Fri Jun 3 06:46:00 2022
    Andre wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    DNS doesn't have anything to do with certs. Wildcard certs are just a
    cert that is valid for any subdomain on the certs your domain. It's handled by the web server (or whatever is accepting the web
    connection).

    Letsencrypt uses DNS validation to provide wildcard DNS through their system
    - that's what I meant.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Andre on Fri Jun 3 06:55:00 2022
    Andre wrote to Belly <=-

    It does when you're validating with Let's Encrypt.

    Doing all that convoluted nonsense with a proxy server just to avoid learning how to add a single TXT record. :-/

    The proxying is helpful when you have one IP address, like I do, with a homelab behind it that you'd like to have exposed to the internet - and I'm working with NGINX and proxying at work, so it was a nice transition.

    NGINX Proxy Manager is a nice graphical tool for administering a reverse
    proxy - and with a single LE cert with multiple hostnames attached, it could encrypt all the traffic coming in, then pass off to an internal host on HTTP or an unsigned cert you don't want to expose to the outside world.






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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jun 3 13:47:45 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Andre on Fri Jun 03 2022 06:55 am

    The proxying is helpful when you have one IP address, like I do, with a homelab behind it that you'd like to have exposed to the internet - and I'm working with NGINX and proxying at work, so it was a nice transition.

    NGINX Proxy Manager is a nice graphical tool for administering a reverse proxy - and with a single LE cert with multiple hostnames attached, it could encrypt all the traffic coming in, then pass off to an internal host on HTTP or an unsigned cert you don't want to expose to the outside world.

    It's a lot of added complexity for a benefit I can't really identify unless you're doing a bunch of security checks (which WAFs and proxies suck at anyway).

    You're still exposing them to the internet to a great extent. All the same business logic and data exfil issues will still exist. The only thing you might be protecting from is RCE on a particular service.


    - Andre

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Fri Jun 3 21:04:00 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Jun 02 2022 06:24 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    i'd rather have a smart phone.

    My father is a Luddite and is 80 years old. It was a pain to get him to
    carry a flip phone, and now it's like pulling teeth to get him to use his
    smart phone. He has committred to learn the phone, but if I knew it would've been this much hassle, I would've kept him using an LTE capable flip phone. All he needs is text and phone.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sat Jun 4 04:04:34 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Jun 03 2022 09:04 pm


    i'd rather have a smart phone.

    My father is a Luddite and is 80 years old. It was a pain to get him to carry a flip phone, and now it's like pulling teeth to get him to use his smart phone. He has committred to learn the phone, but if I knew it would've been this much hassle, I would've kept him using an LTE capable flip phone.

    just show him how to look up porn on the phone.
    he will be a whiz in a week.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Boraxman on Sat Jun 4 11:57:24 2022
    On 5/20/22 6:03 PM, Boraxman wrote:

    The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
    Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.

    I ran, iirc Trillium for a long time, that connected to them all... iirc
    gaim did as well.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Ennev on Sat Jun 4 12:28:28 2022
    On 5/24/22 5:01 AM, Ennev wrote:
    Of course, I have it disabled and reverted to Windows 10 in order
    to keep using mostly Linux. Windows is for some work projects
    where absolutely needed at this point.

    Yes, windows is hard to avoid, That's why I still have an Intel mac
    so I can run windows with parallels.

    It's not so bad, WSL2 is pretty nice and makes it pretty tolerable.

    Personal and Work laptops are both M1 Macs (air and max
    respectively). Of course early adopter at work for M1 has made
    building some projects (requiring updates to code, libraries,
    etc) has be "fun".

    Oddly I'm still waiting. I got bit a few times being an early
    adopter and getting Gen 1 stuff, this time I'll wait to see an
    eventual M2. I'll see what they'll show at WWDC this June to make
    up my mind.

    I've been surprisingly happy with it so far, once past the build quirks
    on the biggest project/solution. Now it builds in under 6 minutes on
    the M1 Max, my personal desktop took nearly 15 by comparison... probably
    the gen3 nvme making most of the difference.

    There's been a couple niggles, and I wish the x86 acceleration worked
    better with VMs (Docker, etc). And I don't think I'd ever shell out
    what the M1 Max from work cost, that said, for general use, the M1 Air
    has been great. Charged when I left on my trip last Saturday, used a
    couple hours a day since, and still have over 60% battery.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Sat Jun 4 12:29:48 2022
    On 5/24/22 8:32 AM, Nightfox wrote:
    My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or
    Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".

    Californians are Americans.. ;)

    But are they? Are they really? They don't seem to think so. LoL.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Sat Jun 4 12:42:40 2022
    On 5/28/22 7:13 PM, Arelor wrote:

    So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of
    sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities
    to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible without the user having to wade through dire brower
    warnings.

    Fortunately Cloudflare and Let's Encrypt have been pretty liberal in not blocking certs of their own accord. It's been really easy... if you use Caddy, it's even wired by default to get a cert for domains it's
    configured for.

    I'm less inclined to trust any resource not https at least... in the
    end, it's a vector for large actors to introduce a lot of malware.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Sat Jun 4 12:46:32 2022
    On 5/29/22 7:53 AM, Arelor wrote:

    Free certs still require the certificate authority to be on board. Nowadays I don't put it bellow the woke brigade to pest certificate authorities to revoke
    the certificates of websites they want to cancel. Free certificate authorities
    are not free from this. There is a number of reasons why pestering certificate
    authorities is less effective than trying to cajole ISPs but still I think it is dangerous to require people to get the aproval of a CA in order to have a website.

    Cloudflare, see above. Besides, I don't like the fact CLoudflare gets to see, analyze and correlate so much Internet traffic. They are a Google-grade threat
    for privacy.

    In the end, there's plenty of options for certs, and at the very least
    Let's Encrypt and Cloudflare have both stood up against woke mob
    requests to remove certain certs or customers.

    There's not really a requirement... but that said, I'd prefer all
    traffic into portable runtimes be over encrypted channels by default.

    It will affect search engine ranking, but nothing is stopping someone
    staying http only... and nothing is stopping state actors slurping up
    all the data through major junction points and/or injecting http
    payloads in the middle.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 4 12:51:26 2022
    On 5/30/22 12:05 PM, Dumas Walker wrote:
    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I
    not sure I see the problem.

    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.
    Browsers are generally the single biggest vector for attack of a given computer. Over HTTP (Non-S) anyone with control over any routing
    hardware between you and websites can inject malware payloads onto your computer.

    It's not to protect the My Little Bronie site content, it's to protect
    your system from malicious actors.. namely state actors that have been
    and are doing these things (injecting/rerouting common http traffic).
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jun 4 13:19:11 2022
    On 6/3/22 6:55 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

    The proxying is helpful when you have one IP address, like I do, with a homelab behind it that you'd like to have exposed to the internet - and I'm working with NGINX and proxying at work, so it was a nice transition.

    NGINX Proxy Manager is a nice graphical tool for administering a reverse proxy - and with a single LE cert with multiple hostnames attached, it could encrypt all the traffic coming in, then pass off to an internal host on HTTP or an unsigned cert you don't want to expose to the outside world.

    Doing much the same myself... One of my hosts is using Dokku, which has
    a proxy layer for containerized apps... I have a Caddy server setup to
    proxy the rest.
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  • From nostalia@VERT/TECHRONO to MRO on Mon Jun 6 18:52:33 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    Actually too bad it takes photos... would have been nice for high security facilties that don't care that you have a comm device, but don't want you haveing a camera.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to nostalia on Mon Jun 6 22:23:57 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: nostalia to MRO on Mon Jun 06 2022 06:52 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    Actually too bad it takes photos... would have been nice for high security facilties that don't care that you have a comm device, but don't want you haveing a camera.

    you are replying to the wrong person. i did not say:

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    someone else did.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to nostalia on Tue Jun 7 23:54:00 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: nostalia to MRO on Mon Jun 06 2022 06:52 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    Actually too bad it takes photos... would have been nice for high security f


    I wonder if a phone management app such as Maas 360 could disable device functions?

    Regarding flip phones, I know companies such as Nokia made retro re-issues of older phones with newer technology. For exanple, Neo's phone in the first Matrix film was modifed by the props guys so the bottom half would flip down (real one couldn't,) and the re-issue fixed that problem plus additional appli cation functionality not offered when new.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Wed Jun 8 08:22:00 2022
    Moondog wrote to nostalia <=-

    Regarding flip phones, I know companies such as Nokia made retro
    re-issues of older phones with newer technology.

    I posted elsewhere about a Nokia 6300 4G I bought recently. It's a modern
    take on thwe candy-bar form-facotr phone, and supports the 4G networks,
    unlike older candy bar phones. The UI is responsive, it's got a half-decent (albeit small) web browser, Bluetooth, Google Maps, WhatsApp and Facebook,
    an app store, and Google text-to-speech (so no more T9 predictive text
    input)

    If it had a media player, it'd be ideal. As it is, it has a FM radio that plays through headphones, using the cord as an antenna.

    I didn't realize how nice having my phone battery last a week was.


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  • From Mandog@VERT/BRAZINET to Belly on Wed Jun 15 18:23:50 2022
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to Andre on Thu Jun 02 2022 04:56 pm

    I love the signature!

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  • From multiplemiggs@VERT/BTTMLSS to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Jun 20 16:39:00 2022
    They're not the ones that care about tracking us, they care about making t most money with the least spend. We were already tracked well enough on 2g/3g anyways. :)

    By retiring the older networks they get to re-use tower space, saving cost They get to force people to buy new phones, increasing revenue. They have more opportunity to charge outrageous overage charges with little or no warning, which increases their revenues.

    And, they all know they need to be competitive.

    That being said, I wonder what sort of market would be available to T-mobi or another provider if they committed to keeping their legacy networks around? Would there be enough people with flip phones and 3G iphones to ma it a selling point?


    True. The cell companies keep us buying new phones with planned obsolesce,
    and attempt to lure you in with another 3 year contract. I do wish there was just a basic phone system that they would leave alone for talk and text. GSM was fine for this, but is pretty much a thing of the past and so is a nice compact little phone for just making calls and sending texts.

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  • From Montoya@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sun Jul 3 19:50:14 2022
    Re: Re: Forced Upgrade
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu May 12 2022 03:32 pm

    Re: Re: Forced Upgrade
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Thu May 12 2022 08:24 am

    Re: Re: Forced Upgrade
    By: Boraxman to Dr. What on Thu May 12 2022 08:55 pm

    Windows 98 did it for me. It wasn't that bad, but I hated reinstalling because the OS was broken again.

    Seeing MS remove DOS mode, moving towards a more 'closed' system, dumbed down, I decided it wasn't a future I wanted to be a part of, so I jumped ship.

    Windows 98 still had DOS mode..?


    i think you could reboot to dos.
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  • From Kyonshi@VERT/EREBOR to All on Thu Jan 4 10:03:22 2024
    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Kyonshi on Thu Jan 4 10:16:12 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03 am

    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.

    Welcome!
    The culture is .... varied.

    First, there's a bunch of grumpy, angry old men that scream "GET OFF MY LAWN"! Of course, first they need to document the process of screaming, how the scream should be done, who should be able to hear it, etc. They are all part of FidoNet. You can ignore them for the most part.

    Second, like most places on the internet, there's a few trolls. Some are more subtle than others, but if you're familiar with social media, you can usually pick them out rather quickly and ignore most of what they say.
    Third, there's a bunch of really great helpful people of varying ages that love it when new people show up! They're happy to answer questions, even if they've been asked 100 times before. (Oftentimes questions often have answers in documentation, so look there first!)
    Most have been part of this world for decades, and have lots of knowlege to share.

    Have fun!

    DaiTengu

    ...It's so true to life it's hardly true.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Kyonshi on Thu Jan 4 10:26:46 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03 am


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    One quick thing, You may want to update your "Origin Line" in your config so we know what your BBS is. This gets automatically added to the end of any message that's sent to your QWK hub (VERT).

    in SCFG go to: Networks -> QWK Packet Networks -> Default Tagline

    You can change it from "My Brand-New BBS" to the name of your system.

    DaiTengu

    ...Documentation - The worst part of programming.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DaiTengu on Thu Jan 4 10:07:25 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: DaiTengu to Kyonshi on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:16 am

    The culture is .... varied.

    First, there's a bunch of grumpy, angry old men that scream "GET OFF MY LAWN"! Of course, first they need to document the process of screaming, how the scream should be done, who should be able to hear it, etc. They are all part of FidoNet. You can ignore them for the most part.

    *Fight-O-Net

    Nightfox

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  • From Khronos@VERT/CWSHACK to Kyonshi on Thu Jan 4 15:16:20 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03:22

    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.


    Welcome to the group.
    Just jump in and have fun. I have only been running my system for 6 months or soand am enjoying it a lot.

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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to DaiTengu on Thu Jan 4 17:54:18 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: DaiTengu to Kyonshi on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:16 am

    Second, like most places on the internet, there's a few trolls. Some are

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.
    _____
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Kyonshi on Thu Jan 4 11:51:00 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03 am

    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.

    Hi! It's awesome to suddenly see new people posting!

    Welcome and post any questions you might have!

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Kurisu on Thu Jan 4 19:29:35 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to DaiTengu on Thu Jan 04 2024 05:54 pm

    Second, like most places on the internet, there's a few trolls. Some are

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    Nightfox

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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/PALANTIR to Kyonshi on Thu Jan 4 22:00:44 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03 am

    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.

    Hail, and well met!

    It's pretty chill here, outside of a few curmudgeons. Tons of boards, lots of people with experience in the weirdest fields, and all the perks of any gathering of people that spend their time on niche boards.

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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to Nightfox on Fri Jan 5 05:07:45 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Kurisu on Thu Jan 04 2024 07:29 pm

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    Yeah, certainly didn't seem intentional -- it was just oddly amusing how it happened. Rather liked the guy.

    Him passing is, of course, what I wonder about. Certainly would hope nothing has happened but sadly you never know... :(
    _____
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nightfox on Fri Jan 5 03:04:12 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Kurisu on Thu Jan 04 2024 07:29 pm

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    Since we are on a dark subject, does anyone know what happened to Jazzman? I took an extended break and when I came back he was no longer active.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to DaiTengu on Fri Jan 5 06:24:00 2024
    DaiTengu wrote to Kyonshi <=-

    they say. Third, there's a bunch of really great helpful people of
    varying ages that love it when new people show up! They're happy to answer questions, even if they've been asked 100 times before.
    (Oftentimes questions often have answers in documentation, so look
    there first!) Most have been part of this world for decades, and have
    lots of knowlege to share.

    Wait, which group are you? :)



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Margaerynne on Fri Jan 5 06:28:00 2024
    Margaerynne wrote to Kyonshi <=-

    lots of people with experience in the weirdest fields, and all the
    perks of any gathering of people that spend their time on niche boards.

    "Life means nothing if you're not obsessed with something..."

    --me, just now.




    ... Am I any closer to finding what I'm looking for?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Jan 5 09:58:31 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Kurisu on Thu Jan 04 2024 07:29 pm


    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.


    he was last on vert 06/23/22
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Kurisu on Fri Jan 5 09:59:32 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to Nightfox on Fri Jan 05 2024 05:07 am

    Yeah, certainly didn't seem intentional -- it was just oddly amusing how it happened. Rather liked the guy.


    you might need to have your head examined.

    Him passing is, of course, what I wonder about. Certainly would hope nothing has happened but sadly you never know... :(

    i killed him.
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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to MRO on Fri Jan 5 11:38:50 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Kurisu on Fri Jan 05 2024 09:59 am

    you might need to have your head examined.

    Maybe.

    i killed him.

    I have my doubts about your claim...
    _____
    xadara.com | final-zone.net

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 5 12:22:16 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to DaiTengu on Fri Jan 05 2024 06:24 am


    Wait, which group are you? :)


    I'm a jack of all trades, a master of none.

    DaiTengu

    ...Menu: A list of dishes which the restaurant has just run out of.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jan 5 10:47:00 2024
    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts f
    m him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    He also ran into some issues when his favorite system to call switched from Synchronet to something else. That was his reason given for ceasing to moderate the MOBILE echo.

    I think someone had is supposedly real name and tried to find out if
    anything happened to him, without success. I got the impression that he
    was very mobility restricted. :(


    * SLMR 2.1a * Engineers: often wrong, seldom in doubt.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 5 19:50:00 2024
    Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts
    f

    m him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    I think someone had is supposedly real name and tried to find out
    if anything happened to him, without success. I got the
    impression that he was very mobility restricted. :(

    I think his name was Erich Bublitz or something close to that. I did a cursory search on him and find nothing, pretty much.

    I do think he has passed away, as he often talked about his health
    problems (not specifics, but just that he had issues), and I believe he
    was last known to be living in a nursing home. Somewhere in Canada as I recall.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 6 09:18:04 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jan 05 2024 10:47 am


    He also ran into some issues when his favorite system to call switched from Synchronet to something else. That was his reason given for ceasing to moderate the MOBILE echo.

    I think someone had is supposedly real name and tried to find out if anything happened to him, without success. I got the impression that he
    was very mobility restricted. :(


    Yes he said he was disabled and used a tablet.

    But, just take it all with a grain of salt. he could have been some dude having fun with us and he got bored with it. maybe he wasn't even disabled.

    People have done stuff like that before.
    remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god yet he can't pay his electricity bill.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Sat Jan 6 10:15:00 2024
    I do think he has passed away, as he often talked about his health
    problems (not specifics, but just that he had issues), and I believe he
    was last known to be living in a nursing home. Somewhere in Canada as I recall.

    Yes, he claimed to be Canadian.


    * SLMR 2.1a * The backup's not over 'til the FAT table sings.

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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Kurisu on Sat Jan 6 14:41:00 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to DaiTengu on Thu Jan 04 2024 05:54 pm

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    "rich in money but not in love" RIP (maybe)



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Kurisu on Sun Jan 7 15:17:42 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to DaiTengu on Thu Jan 04 2024 05:54 pm

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?
    --
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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to Digital Man on Sun Jan 7 18:49:11 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Digital Man to Kurisu on Sun Jan 07 2024 03:17 pm

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    It's sadly the most reasonable conclusion.

    The other day I took a shot with trying to get in contact with a former co sysop of his to see what info they may be able to share, but I've not pushed further. Just waiting for a possible reply that may never come.

    Don't know why this kind of bothers me a bit, but it does. Guess it's just in my nature. :\
    _____
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  • From j0HNNY a1PHA@VERT/R3TR0X to Digital Man on Mon Jan 8 01:45:00 2024
    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Sad if it's RIP either way...

    |08.|05j|13A|08.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Kurisu on Mon Jan 8 06:45:49 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to Digital Man on Sun Jan 07 2024 06:49 pm


    The other day I took a shot with trying to get in contact with a former co sysop of his to see what info they may be able to share, but I've not pushed further. Just waiting for a possible reply that may never come.

    Don't know why this kind of bothers me a bit, but it does. Guess it's just in my nature. :\

    There's a lot of people that come and go with this hobby.
    Not all of them die off; they just find another interest.

    There's people that come back every 5-10 years.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to j0HNNY a1PHA on Mon Jan 8 06:54:40 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: j0HNNY a1PHA to Digital Man on Mon Jan 08 2024 01:45 am

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Sad if it's RIP either way...


    who really knows.

    Anyways, i can't find an obituary or death notice.
    That name is attached to a real person in that location.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Kurisu on Mon Jan 8 09:44:27 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to Digital Man on Sun Jan 07 2024 06:49 pm

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us.
    He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022,
    so ... RIP TM?

    It's sadly the most reasonable conclusion.

    The other day I took a shot with trying to get in contact with a former co sysop of his to see what info they may be able to share, but I've not pushed further. Just waiting for a possible reply that may never come.

    Don't know why this kind of bothers me a bit, but it does. Guess it's just in my nature. :\

    Honestly it bugs me a bit too. TM seemed to like conversing with people on BBSes (when people were being friendly), and he often talked about running a BBS. I don't think he was running one of his own though, as he only mentioned having an iPad. He had talked about possibly getting a Microsoft Surface tablet to run a BBS on, but I don't think he ever did. Also, he said he was living in a (elderly?) care facility, and I wondered if it would be difficult to run a BBS in a place like that, as you probably wouldn't be able to get ports forwarded to your computer. I think at one point he had mentioned possibly running a BBS in the cloud somewhere so that it would be accessible online.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Jan 8 09:42:00 2024
    People have done stuff like that before.
    remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god yet
    e can't pay his electricity bill.

    Why would he need a bill? He should be able to make his own electricity, right?


    * SLMR 2.1a * I'm writing a book. I've got the page numbers done.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 8 14:39:00 2024
    Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-

    People have done stuff like that before.
    remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god
    yet
    he can't pay his electricity bill.

    Why would he need a bill? He should be able to make his own
    electricity, right?

    Well yes, of course. Where do ya think lightning comes from? ;-)



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to j0HNNY a1PHA on Tue Jan 9 01:26:21 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: j0HNNY a1PHA to Digital Man on Mon Jan 08 2024 01:45 am

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.
    --
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue Jan 9 05:13:44 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Kurisu on Mon Jan 08 2024 09:44 am

    Honestly it bugs me a bit too. TM seemed to like conversing with people on BBSes (when people were being friendly), and he often talked about running a BBS. I don't think he was running one of his own though, as he only mentioned having an iPad. He had talked about possibly getting a Microsoft Surface tablet to run a BBS on, but I don't think he ever did. Also, he said he was living in a (elderly?) care facility, and I wondered if it would be difficult to run a BBS in a place like that, as you probably wouldn't be able to get ports forwarded to your computer. I think at one point he had mentioned possibly running a BBS in the cloud somewhere so that it would be accessible online.

    Well he talked a lot and asked a lot of questions. he didn't really run a bbs.

    I think he could have got a bbs to run through marisag but I'm not sure if he followed through or even tried.

    Like I said, there's no death notice and that's extremely rare.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 9 05:14:44 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Jan 08 2024 09:42 am

    People have done stuff like that before.
    remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god yet
    e can't pay his electricity bill.

    Why would he need a bill? He should be able to make his own electricity, right?



    exactly. i asked why god has these problems. no answer.
    THIS guy might be dead too. he was living in a care facility and haven't heard from him since covid i'm pretty sure.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Tue Jan 9 05:18:05 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Digital Man to j0HNNY a1PHA on Tue Jan 09 2024 01:26 am

    June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.

    well that's the part of being an epic troll. people won't believe it was fake.

    Millionaire didn't start out that bad but he got worse and worse and got real ridiculously unbelieveable at some times.

    He was probably just an askhole like phil. Phil is a smart guy and knows how to setup all his shit and more but he always asked pointless questions. A strange personality quirk like he doesn't trust himself.

    Nobody would believe me on this but i've had full access to plt's servers when helping him and dude only acts like a moron and he needed no help with anything.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue Jan 9 10:13:28 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 09 2024 05:13 am


    I think he could have got a bbs to run through marisag but I'm not sure if he followed through or even tried.

    Like I said, there's no death notice and that's extremely rare.

    okay i talked to t1ny and he said they wouldn't do an announcement without money paying for it.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Tue Jan 9 18:25:00 2024
    Hello DM!

    ** On Tuesday 09.01.24 - 01:26, Digital Man wrote to j0HNNY a1PHA:

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no
    longer with be us.

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.

    The last message I still have in my system from him is Jun 4
    2022.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Wed Jan 10 04:22:21 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Ogg to Digital Man on Tue Jan 09 2024 06:25 pm

    Hello DM!

    ** On Tuesday 09.01.24 - 01:26, Digital Man wrote to j0HNNY a1PHA:

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no
    longer with be us.

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.

    The last message I still have in my system from him is Jun 4
    2022.

    weird thing was before people started this discussion about him a few weeks before i was looking into where he was. dm's date and yours seems like the latest.

    since you are canandian, do you know any good way of looking up death notices? ---
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Wed Jan 10 13:13:35 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Jan 09 2024 05:18 am

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.

    well that's the part of being an epic troll. people won't believe it was fake.

    Well I talked to Erich voice, so yeah, he is (or was) a real/unique dude. I think he was just a very lonely person that latched on to our community. I seem to recall he did run a (Synchronet) BBS at some time or other and was a long time (ago?) user of BBSes, so it wasn't a totally random interaction.
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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to Digital Man on Wed Jan 10 16:50:27 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Jan 10 2024 01:13 pm

    seem to recall he did run a (Synchronet) BBS at some time or other and was a

    Evidence suggests he was a co-sysop at The Rusty Mailbox, which is where I've inquired about him at. It was the only sensible lead I had... actually should check if I've gotten a reply or not.
    _____
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Jan 13 08:58:00 2024
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Wednesday 10.01.24 - 04:22, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    The last message I still have in my system from him is Jun 4
    2022.

    [...]

    since you are canandian, do you know any good way of looking up death notices? -+-

    There ought to be a general/publicly accessible list of obits.
    My understanding is that most of the funeral homes tap into it
    and submit info. But I am not aware of any overall obit
    registry.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sun Jan 14 05:12:46 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Ogg to MRO on Sat Jan 13 2024 08:58 am


    There ought to be a general/publicly accessible list of obits.
    My understanding is that most of the funeral homes tap into it
    and submit info. But I am not aware of any overall obit
    registry.

    so as a freaking canadian, what would you use without being so general
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    Hello MRO!

    ** On Sunday 14.01.24 - 05:12, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    so as a freaking canadian, what would you use without being so general

    I'm saying I don't know of a tried and true reporting system.
    My guess would be to check each funeral home in the area and
    see if there is a listing.

    I seems that once one funeral home posts a listing, the general
    internet scrubbing tools pick them up and re-list them into
    their own obit sites - filled with ads ofcourse - so that you
    rely on those latter sites.

    I have a friend doing some research looking for Erich. If he
    has died, and there is a probated will, then that should also
    be publicly available.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Mon Jan 15 14:25:09 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Ogg to MRO on Mon Jan 15 2024 11:42 am

    so as a freaking canadian, what would you use without being so general

    I'm saying I don't know of a tried and true reporting system.
    My guess would be to check each funeral home in the area and
    see if there is a listing.

    I seems that once one funeral home posts a listing, the general
    internet scrubbing tools pick them up and re-list them into
    their own obit sites - filled with ads ofcourse - so that you

    okay captain hypothetical!

    I have a friend doing some research looking for Erich. If he
    has died, and there is a probated will, then that should also
    be publicly available.

    yeah what websites do you guys have for looking up legal records?
    like i want to lookup his name and see if something is in civil or family court. what site do i use?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Jan 16 09:21:00 2024
    I'm saying I don't know of a tried and true reporting system.
    My guess would be to check each funeral home in the area and
    see if there is a listing.

    I seems that once one funeral home posts a listing, the general
    internet scrubbing tools pick them up and re-list them into
    their own obit sites - filled with ads ofcourse - so that you

    okay captain hypothetical!

    It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not
    have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American reporting system, I would say "check google?" because I really don't know
    of a good reporting system here, either.

    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a
    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never
    could find anything about him.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 18:59:40 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Jan 16 2024 09:21 am

    It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American

    he should just say it.

    have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American reporting system, I would say "check google?" because I really don't know
    of a good reporting system here, either.


    a lot of our obituary providers link together. also if you find out where they live, check to see if they do court listings.

    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a
    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    he probably used a fake name.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tue Jan 16 17:54:47 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 2024 06:59 pm

    It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not
    have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American

    he should just say it.

    I think he basically did, didn't he? In an earlier message, he mentioned something about possibly being a publicly accessible list of obits but he isn't aware of an overall obit registry.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue Jan 16 20:59:01 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Jan 16 2024 05:54 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 2024 06:59 pm

    It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not
    have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American

    he should just say it.

    I think he basically did, didn't he? In an earlier message, he mentioned something about possibly being a publicly accessible list of obits but he isn't aware of an overall obit registry.


    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.
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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 20:10:00 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Jan 16 2024 09:21 am

    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    This is how I want to go out.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Jan 17 09:10:37 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 16 2024 08:59 pm

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.

    Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably have to Google it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed Jan 17 09:52:00 2024
    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    he probably used a fake name.

    That is what I suspect now.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NOPANTS on Wed Jan 17 09:30:00 2024
    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    This is how I want to go out.

    As an old-timer BBS user, or to disappear without a trace (or both!). ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed Jan 17 09:39:00 2024
    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up >bituaries in your own country.

    Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I am close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.

    I do run into the rare occassion, like with the missing BBS user, that I
    don't really know about. Otherwise, I usually find out about deaths
    through the above mentioned places.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 17 11:15:10 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jan 17 2024 09:39 am

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look
    up bituaries in your own country.

    Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I am close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.

    That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to MRO on Wed Jan 17 19:45:00 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 16 2024 08:59 pm

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.

    I use The Living and the Dead: Handbook for the Recently Deceased and just ask them directly.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 04:54:25 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jan 17 2024 09:10 am

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 16 2024 08:59 pm

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.

    Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably have to Google it.


    that's pretty bad dude. didn't you ever have a family member die?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thu Jan 18 05:58:04 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jan 17 2024 09:52 am

    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    he probably used a fake name.

    That is what I suspect now.


    i miss my one user lenny of repan, real name charles knaper. I think he passed away. he was crazy about usurper and provided jakob with many ideas.
    he was pretty much the life of usurper.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thu Jan 18 05:59:20 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jan 17 2024 09:39 am

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up >bituaries in your own country.

    Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I

    am
    close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.

    I do run into the rare occassion, like with the missing BBS user, that I don't really know about. Otherwise, I usually find out about deaths
    through the above mentioned places.

    that seems like a lot of work.
    i'm not talking about family members or someone close. you would have to be one obtuse motherfucker to rely on obituaries to track their deaths.

    I just look on my local newspaper's website for obits.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 06:00:49 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 17 2024 11:15 am

    Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I am close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.

    That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.


    no no no. i don't think ANYBODY found out about the death of a close person, family or friend via obituary. that's just backwards thinking.

    i'm thinking former teacher, former coworker, people you knew in highschool, etc.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thu Jan 18 09:35:00 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 04:54 am

    Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably
    have to Google it.

    that's pretty bad dude. didn't you ever have a family member die?

    If a family member dies, I'm going to hear about it personally from family. Same with a friend, I'm going to hear about it through other friends.

    If one of your family members has died, haven't you been told by family? If your own family doesn't tell you about a family member dying, I'd have to wonder what kind of family that is.

    Having to check obituaries to find out about one of your own close family members is one of the silliest things I've ever heard.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thu Jan 18 09:36:52 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 06:00 am

    That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out
    through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.

    no no no. i don't think ANYBODY found out about the death of a close person, family or friend via obituary. that's just backwards thinking.

    Regarding this, you just wrote to me in another message "haven't you had a family member die?"

    i'm thinking former teacher, former coworker, people you knew in highschool, etc.

    Again, I could do a Google search to find obituaries. I don't know of a central repository of obituaries.. And even then, sometimes I've heard of people like that passing away through other friends.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 12:00:51 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 09:35 am

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 04:54 am

    Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably
    have to Google it.

    that's pretty bad dude. didn't you ever have a family member die?

    If a family member dies, I'm going to hear about it personally from family. Same with a friend, I'm going to hear about it through other friends.

    yeah but if you have a distant family member then you look at the obit. or atleast i do. you would look it up to see if they spelled your name right or whatever.


    havent you had other jobs? havent you wondered what happened to people in highschool? obits are a good way to see if they are dead.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 12:01:48 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 09:36 am

    That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out
    through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.

    no no no. i don't think ANYBODY found out about the death of a

    close
    person, family or friend via obituary. that's just backwards thinking.

    Regarding this, you just wrote to me in another message "haven't you had

    a
    family member die?"
    i assumed people looked at the obit to make sure the info was correct. apparently i have unearthed something.


    Again, I could do a Google search to find obituaries. I don't know of a central repository of obituaries.. And even then, sometimes I've heard of people like that passing away through other friends.

    your newspaper online probably.
    anyways, usa has its shit together.

    i'm trying to find some death notice for this millionaire idiot. he's in canada apparently.

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thu Jan 18 11:31:00 2024
    I just look on my local newspaper's website for obits.

    That would help for local persons, but few of my users are local enough
    to find them there, and none of my family is (unless I were to list it
    there). My local paper does list some surrounding areas that are even more rural, but I don't think they usually list ones from too far away unless it
    is someone noteworthy.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thu Jan 18 11:33:00 2024
    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a
    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    he probably used a fake name.

    That is what I suspect now.

    i miss my one user lenny of repan, real name charles knaper. I think he passed
    way. he was crazy about usurper and provided jakob with many ideas.
    he was pretty much the life of usurper.

    I miss several of my old users that I lost when I moved back in the late
    1990s. Between the time I moved and when I was able to get telnet working successfully, most of them had stopped BBSing. Most are probably dead now.

    This guy was one of the few who came back. He didn't play doors much, but
    was active in the message areas. He mostly downloaded QWK packets via FTP.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thu Jan 18 13:05:22 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:00 pm

    havent you had other jobs? havent you wondered what happened to people in highschool? obits are a good way to see if they are dead.

    Normally I search their name online and on social media first. But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thu Jan 18 13:09:20 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:01 pm

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries. you know you are old and people are dying.

    I'm 43, and I didn't think that was very old yet.. I just haven't been in the habit of looking up obituaries, or even wondering if my friends or people I've known are dead. And if an acquaintenance of mine is someone I haven't even been in contact with for 20+ years, it's probably not going to make much difference to me anyway. It has been a rare case like this where someone like The Millionaire stopped posting online and I have a passing thought that they may have passed away.

    And I wouldn't say I don't know how to look up obituaries. As I've stated already, I could Google it and find out.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 20:30:00 2024
    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:00 pm

    havent you had other jobs? havent you wondered what happened to people in highschool? obits are a good way to see if they are dead.

    Normally I search their name online and on social media first.
    But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..

    Nor has any other normal person.

    Don't forget who you're having this conversation with. That should
    explain most of it...



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 19 08:06:17 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 11:31 am

    I just look on my local newspaper's website for obits.

    That would help for local persons, but few of my users are local enough
    to find them there, and none of my family is (unless I were to list it there). My local paper does list some surrounding areas that are even more rural, but I don't think they usually list ones from too far away unless it is someone noteworthy.



    with me, my 'local paper' is lee enterprises and they are all linked to the other 'local papers' that lee runs.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Jan 19 08:13:04 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 01:05 pm


    Normally I search their name online and on social media first. But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..


    well you are in your 40s right? go look up people from your highschool.
    a bunch of them are probably dead.

    the hottest girl in my highschool died this year. she partied hard.
    people i knew died young and i never knew it until years later.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Jan 19 08:14:36 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 01:09 pm

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries. you know you are old and people are dying.

    I'm 43, and I didn't think that was very old yet.. I just haven't been in

    that's old.
    the habit of looking up obituaries, or even wondering if my friends or people I've known are dead. And if an acquaintenance of mine is someone I haven't even been in contact with for 20+ years, it's probably not going to make much difference to me anyway. It has been a rare case like this where

    man not only are you autistic, but you are an uncaring psychopath!

    And I wouldn't say I don't know how to look up obituaries. As I've stated already, I could Google it and find out.

    OR, you could use an obituary.
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nopants on Fri Jan 19 04:08:53 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nopants to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 2024 08:10 pm

    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    This is how I want to go out.

    Nopants will be a tough obit search.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Fri Jan 19 09:40:00 2024
    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

    I think we know how... google them... but don't really know what to do if
    we don't find any results.

    My mother was trying to locate one of her aunts a couple of years ago. We
    used to keep in touch with this aunt via my mother's sister, who had since distanced herself from the family.

    The aunt in question had no children for mom to contact, but my mother was
    able to find the retirement community her aunt had been living in via an internet search and called there. She found out that her aunt had been
    dead for about a year.

    Whoever the aunt designated as her contact person had not bothered to let the rest of the family know, and there was no obit to be found. My internet stalker sister was assisting mom in the search so if there had been one to
    find I am sure she'd have found it.

    Sometimes people are going to croak and no one is going to know.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Fri Jan 19 09:43:00 2024
    Normally I search their name online and on social media first.
    But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..

    Nor has any other normal person.

    Don't forget who you're having this conversation with. That should
    explain most of it...

    While that is not the immediate reaction to a lot of people disappearing, I
    can understand it being one when the person in question complained about
    their health as The Millionaire did.

    While not true of all sysops, many are older and/or not very physically
    active, so that might make it a more-likely conclusion to jump to in our
    case. ;)


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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to MRO on Fri Jan 19 14:37:48 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:01 pm

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

    This reminded me of a point that I'm surprised needs to regularly be made about information hunting on the internet:

    The data has to actually BE online to be found.

    I know most of us here understand that concept, but it is worth a refresher that not everything is put online, let alone in a searchable format that's actually been indexed by a search engine or is otherwise human readable.

    It's incredible how many people in my life seem to think that literally every bit of information ever is on the internet -- that a simple search should be able to get you anything.

    We know this to be false -- that, quite simply, some information people may want is not available in any meaningful way. It most certainly isn't any different with obits, as other replies have suggested, for a variety of reasons. That can be true, though, of just about any kind of data.

    What I'm getting at is the fact that a blanket thought of just searching obits = absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't the best methodology...
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 19 14:24:00 2024
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Normally I search their name online and on social media first.
    But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..

    Nor has any other normal person.

    Don't forget who you're having this conversation with. That should
    explain most of it...

    While that is not the immediate reaction to a lot of people
    disappearing, I can understand it being one when the person in
    question complained about their health as The Millionaire did.

    Sure, no argument there. But I didn't get the impression that the person
    I was referring to was using it in that context specifically, but in a
    more general fashion.

    While not true of all sysops, many are older and/or not very
    physically active, so that might make it a more-likely conclusion
    to jump to in our case. ;)

    Probably very correct.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 20 08:35:49 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jan 19 2024 09:40 am

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

    I think we know how... google them... but don't really know what to do if
    we don't find any results.


    using a search engine isnt knowing how to look up obituaries.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Kurisu on Sat Jan 20 08:38:52 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to MRO on Fri Jan 19 2024 02:37 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:01 pm

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

    This reminded me of a point that I'm surprised needs to regularly be made about information hunting on the internet:

    what point? your point?

    I know most of us here understand that concept, but it is worth a refresher that not everything is put online, let alone in a searchable format that's

    everything is fucking put online.

    Re: Hello

    What I'm getting at is the fact that a blanket thought of just searching obits = absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't the best methodology...

    'blanket thought of just searching obits'

    what?


    obituaries are literally there to see if someone died and when and where.
    you have no points.
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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to MRO on Sat Jan 20 09:28:51 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Kurisu on Sat Jan 20 2024 08:38 am

    So you're just going to be contrarian. Okay, means there's zero conversation to be had on that subject since you're playing the "nuh uh" card but I do want to prove you wrong in one statement.

    everything is fucking put online.

    Okay then, if that statement is true, that "everything is fucking put online" then please identify the type of plant sitting on top of my computer as I type this.

    You won't be able to, as that is an example of something (as in, information) which has not been in any capacity placed online. I've never written about the particular plant on my computer, so without a very lucky guess that I would still have to verify, you simply won't know. The information isn't online, and since that is something which cannot be found online, your statement is fundamnetally false.

    Yeah, that's me being pedantic as fuck, but I did prove your statement wrong via an actual logic chain which can be followed by anyone who's not just being contrarian.

    Now, what does that matter? It still demonstrates what I said: just replace plant on my computer with obituary. One may be published but that doesn't mean it does get put online -- there is nothing which universarlly forces such inforamtion to be placed in some way your or I could trivially access via a simple google search, as your original statement implied.

    ....

    Ironically, something like find a grave may actually prove a better way to check a living or dead status since if the grave was documented there it's pretty open-shut case that the person is considered deceased, and the requirements for such are simply for someone to have been to a graveyard, documented that grave existing, and get it published to the site, which can happen at seemingly any time and not some little window immediately after death.

    But even precluding that, there are no obits for some of my own family members dying. Does that mean they are alive, still? Again, your entire point was "google it" which just doesn't work if the info isn't there.

    Again, though, I've given this too much of a reply because, again, you simply wish to be contrarian. That's fine, you do you. TBH for every time I've seen your posts and been like "what the fuck bro" you've also posted things I fully agree with so it's just the way it is.

    :)
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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to The Lizard Master on Sat Jan 20 08:46:00 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to Nopants on Fri Jan 19 2024 04:08 am

    Nopants will be a tough obit search.

    Tell me about it. My guess is that it would be EASIER to identify someone with just a T-shirt on.

    https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/man-wearing-no-pants-dies-after-rampage -at-whataburger/877889688/


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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Kurisu on Sat Jan 20 09:04:00 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to MRO on Fri Jan 19 2024 02:37 pm

    just searching obits absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't the best methodology...

    That's why I recommended a chant that goes "Hands vermillion, start of five. Bright cotillion, raven's dive. Nightshade's promise, spirits strive. To the living let now the dead come alive."

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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Gamgee on Sat Jan 20 09:08:00 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 19 2024 02:24 pm

    While not true of all sysops, many are older and/or not very
    physically active, so that might make it a more-likely conclusion
    to jump to in our case. ;)

    Probably very correct.

    Oh man. I always assumed Sysops to be sexy MF smart-throbs, no? Image ruined.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Nopants on Sat Jan 20 15:24:43 2024
    Re: Hello
    By: Nopants to Kurisu on Sat Jan 20 2024 09:04 am

    just searching obits absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a
    person isn't the best methodology...

    That's why I recommended a chant that goes "Hands vermillion, start of five. Bright cotillion, raven's dive. Nightshade's promise, spirits strive. To the living let now the dead come alive."

    #beetlejuice

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nopants on Sun Jan 21 10:07:00 2024
    Nopants wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Oh man. I always assumed Sysops to be sexy MF smart-throbs, no? Image ruined.

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as
    well?



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 10:07:00 2024
    Nightfox wrote to Nopants <=-

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 21 12:40:42 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    Nightfox

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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 18:49:00 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 21 2024 12:40 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    Attention K-Mart shoppers


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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 20:43:43 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 21 2024 12:40 pm

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    Its Showtime!

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 26 04:09:00 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nopants on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am

    ruined.

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as
    well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Fri Jan 26 09:39:41 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 26 2024 04:09 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nopants on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am

    ruined.

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as
    well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    that looks like a good url to me.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Lizard Master on Fri Jan 26 10:01:09 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 26 2024 04:09 am

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    That doesn't look like a valid URL to me..?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 07:34:08 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Fri Jan 26 2024 10:01 am

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined


    not surprised considering the source.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Mon Jan 29 09:11:49 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    not surprised considering the source.

    Why are you responding to me? I didn't write what you quoted.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 13:07:40 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Jan 29 2024 09:11 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    not surprised considering the source.

    Why are you responding to me? I didn't write what you quoted.


    yeah i didnt hit enter for the last line.
    yes i was responding to you.

    " TL> https://imgur.com/undefined

    That doesn't look like a valid URL to me..?

    Nightfox "
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 06:15:36 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Fri Jan 26 2024 10:01 am

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    That doesn't look like a valid URL to me..?

    You know I used the copy url link in imgur and didn't even look at it lol.

    I asked again and the results were not as great -

    https://imgur.com/g0CJHgH

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to MRO on Mon Jan 29 06:16:56 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined


    not surprised considering the source.

    It's all the vaccines I've taken eating my brain.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Mon Jan 29 17:37:46 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 06:15 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    You know I used the copy url link in imgur and didn't even look at it lol.

    I asked again and the results were not as great -

    https://imgur.com/g0CJHgH


    he has no legs, extra fingers and his ear buds arent even in his ears.
    and people think AI will take over everything.
    so far it's just good at doing joe biden
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Mon Jan 29 17:58:20 2024
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to MRO on Mon Jan 29 2024 06:16 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined


    not surprised considering the source.

    It's all the vaccines I've taken eating my brain.

    should have got the tripple booster. we're all in this together
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