I want to build a LINUX based desktop that is both powerful, current (whats the new threadripper processor that everyone is talking about...), and fast. I have no real cost limitations, but don't do much gaming so... I don't know that I need the BEST video card.
for Airflow [$49.99]
Wow... I got a lot of discounts when I ordered these current prices are a bit higher. (newegg.com). Anyways I think this build will last a long time.
MRO wrote to Fang-Castro <=-
Re: A new computer setup
By: Fang-Castro to paulie420 on Tue Aug 18 2020 09:36 pm
for Airflow [$49.99]
Wow... I got a lot of discounts when I ordered these current prices are a bit higher. (newegg.com). Anyways I think this build will last a long time.
most desktop computers will go along fine for 5 years or more. your milleage may vary if you want to play all the newest games at max settings, of course. ---
I just ordered my 1st parts list to build a computer since 1995 give or take a y ear. The last computer I built was a 486dx.
My order was just under $700 with shipping, here's what I got. The chip comes w ith heatsink/fan.
Wow... I got a lot of discounts when I ordered these current prices are
a bit hi gher. (newegg.com). Anyways I think this build will last a
long time.
[fLEE.tHE.pLANET.bBS][916.pRI.vATE]
But the motherboard I ordered has onboard graphics ...
...
AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost)
Dennisk wrote to MRO <=-
Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything
else, its find.
If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without having to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.
The PSU is probably overkill, ~600W is generally enough these days, but supply issues may be a problem. Unless you plan on moving to a top end
GPU you probably don't need more than 600-650W
Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else, its find.
If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without having to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.
Fang-Castro wrote to Dennisk <=-
Re: Re: A new computer setup
By: Dennisk to MRO on Wed Aug 19 2020 10:27 pm
Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else, its find.
If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without having to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.
Heck ya! I ran an old 486dx-66Mhz until just a few years ago. My
current computer I run my BBS on was a $79 clearance dell from Microcenter. Can't play any games (well, League of Legends works) but that's not what it's for =)
Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else, its
find.
If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without having
to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.
Tracker1 wrote to Dennisk <=-its
On 8/19/2020 8:27 PM, Dennisk wrote:
Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else,
find.having
If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without
to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.
I think it may also come down to what you are doing, how patient you
are and if you've had exposure to a faster computer. I recently
upgraded. My prior desktop was around 5yo at the time... I was issued a work laptop about 2 years ago that did a few work things faster than my desktop. This drove a desire to get those gains on my home system.
Since upgrading my home system everything feels painfully slow.
If it's all you know, and *it* hasn't changed, then it's easy to keep using it. If you've experienced better/faster it isn't always that
easy. Of course another change vs. a few years ago is that what I work
on often requires several servers/services in the background on my computer, usually spun up in Docker containers. These all take
resources and on even a few year old hardware this becomes a
significant slowdown. DB (pg or ms-sql), Redis, Rabbit, and a handful
of things you're working on and it's noticeable.
Re: Re: A new computer setup
By: Tracker1 to Fang-Castro on Wed Aug 19 2020 07:05 am
The PSU is probably overkill, ~600W is generally enough these days,
but supply issues may be a problem. Unless you plan on moving to a
top end GPU you probably don't need more than 600-650W
I have a GTX 780 graphics card I'm going to use and plan to add additional drives in the future. ;)
I have a GTX 780 graphics card I'm going to use and plan to add additional drives in the future. ;)
Get a better video card.
Dennisk wrote to Tracker1 <=-
There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD,
but apart from that I don't notice a difference between my home
machine, and the new machine I use at work. Maybe again, the
tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that
programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am
using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs
and a Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I
compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do
that so, so rarely.
But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in
2000 with a 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.
Tracker1 wrote to Dennisk <=-
On 8/19/2020 8:27 PM, Dennisk wrote:
Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything elseits
find.
If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years withouthaving
to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.
I think it may also come down to what you are doing, how patient you are and if you've had exposure to a faster computer. I recently upgraded. My prior desktop was around 5yo at the time... I was issued a work laptop about 2 years ago that did a few work things faster than my desktop. This drove a desire to get those gains on my home system. Since upgrading my home system everything feels painfully slow.
If it's all you know, and *it* hasn't changed, then it's easy to keep using it. If you've experienced better/faster it isn't always that easy. Of course another change vs. a few years ago is that what I work on often requires several servers/services in the background on my computer, usually spun up in Docker containers. These all take resources and on even a few year old hardware this becomes a significant slowdown. DB (pg or ms-sql), Redis, Rabbit, and a handful of things you're working on and it's noticeable.
There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD, but apart fro that I don't notice a difference between my home machine, and the new machin use at work. Maybe again, the tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs and Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do that so, so rarely.
But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in 2000 with 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.
... DalekDOS v(overflow): (I)Obey (V)ision impaired (E)xterminate
There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD, but apart fro that I don't notice a difference between my home machine, and the new machin use at work. Maybe again, the tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs and Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do that so, so rarely.
But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in 2000 with 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.
... DalekDOS v(overflow): (I)Obey (V)ision impaired (E)xterminate
Gamgee wrote to Dennisk <=-
Dennisk wrote to Tracker1 <=-
There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD,
but apart from that I don't notice a difference between my home
machine, and the new machine I use at work. Maybe again, the
tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that
programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am
using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs
and a Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I
compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do
that so, so rarely.
A Doom level editor! Holy crap, that's freakin AWESOME! Didn't
realize people were still doing that. I tinkered with a few maps
back in the day and have GREAT memories of all that. :-)
But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in
2000 with a 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.
Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
with.
Arelor wrote to Dennisk <=-
Re: Re: A new computer setup
By: Dennisk to Tracker1 on Fri Aug 21 2020 08:39 am
Tracker1 wrote to Dennisk <=-
On 8/19/2020 8:27 PM, Dennisk wrote:
Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything elseits
find.
If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years withouthaving
to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.
I think it may also come down to what you are doing, how patient you are and if you've had exposure to a faster computer. I recently upgraded. My prior desktop was around 5yo at the time... I was issued a work laptop about 2 years ago that did a few work things faster than my desktop. This drove a desire to get those gains on my home system. Since upgrading my home system everything feels painfully slow.
If it's all you know, and *it* hasn't changed, then it's easy to keep using it. If you've experienced better/faster it isn't always that easy. Of course another change vs. a few years ago is that what I work on often requires several servers/services in the background on my computer, usually spun up in Docker containers. These all take resources and on even a few year old hardware this becomes a significant slowdown. DB (pg or ms-sql), Redis, Rabbit, and a handful of things you're working on and it's noticeable.
There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD, but apart fro that I don't notice a difference between my home machine, and the new machin use at work. Maybe again, the tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs and Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do that so, so rarely.
But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in 2000 with 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.
... DalekDOS v(overflow): (I)Obey (V)ision impaired (E)xterminate
Prety much this.
I am making more out of my computer from 2007 than many people does
from computers from 2015. It doesn't take a genius to realize that if
your current old setup is not maxing out neither RAM, CPU or disk
storage, you don't really need more RAM, CPU or disk storage.
What really kills performance is PEBKAC. All my close family has better computers than I do, they use it for web browsing and office. I have an old potatoe I use for office, browsing, compiling and number crunching. And it is much more responsive than the new ones because I take care of it.
Same with phones, really. A 99 USD Nokia that is properly cared off
beats the life out of a 1200 USD phone administrated by a moron.
Dennisk wrote to Gamgee <=-
A Doom level editor! Holy crap, that's freakin AWESOME! Didn't
realize people were still doing that. I tinkered with a few maps
back in the day and have GREAT memories of all that. :-)
Yes, I'm working on some Doom levels right at this moment. My
most recent release was "DK Shrine 2 - Remastered", which was for
Doom 2.
But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in
2000 with a 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.
Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
with.
The operating system you choose here is the key factor.
Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
with.
The operating system you choose here is the key factor.
Dennisk wrote to Gamgee <=-
Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
with.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dennisk <=-
Dennisk wrote to Gamgee <=-
Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
with.
I'm using a 2010 computer as my daily driver. Incremental upgrades
make a huge difference. When this machine was made, it had 8 Gb of
RAM and a core 2 duo CPU. I bought a core 2 quad CPU for $35 a few
years back, a hand me down video card a few years before that, and
will put an SSD in it next time I install the OS. It's running
Windows 10.
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