• blank messages

    From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to All on Fri Oct 29 02:21:00 2021
    Are some of the blank messages are they from the synchronet voting system
    in the message base?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Matthew Munson on Fri Oct 29 03:05:01 2021
    Re: blank messages
    By: Matthew Munson to All on Thu Oct 28 2021 07:21 pm

    Are some of the blank messages are they from the synchronet voting system in the message base?

    What blank messages?
    Blank messages shouldn't show up in your reader, but if you see any, they probably are voting data.

    Nightfox

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  • From apam@VERT/HAPPYLND to Matthew Munson on Fri Oct 29 21:50:00 2021
    Are some of the blank messages are they from the synchronet voting
    system
    in the message base?

    I think so, Alpha brought that up earlier and I forgot about it.

    Will have to look at it.

    Andrew

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  • From apam@VERT/HAPPYLND to Nightfox on Fri Oct 29 22:04:00 2021
    What blank messages?
    Blank messages shouldn't show up in your reader, but if you see any,
    they probably are voting data.

    Yeah, I wasn't filtering out voting messages in talisman's QWK networking
    tool.

    It should be fixed now.

    Andrew
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Matthew Munson on Sat Oct 30 00:16:00 2021
    Re: blank messages
    By: Matthew Munson to All on Thu Oct 28 2021 07:21 pm

    Are some of the blank messages are they from the synchronet voting system
    in the message base?

    If you're not using Synchronet, you should disable voting in your QWK packet configuration on Vertrauen.
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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to Nightfox on Fri Oct 29 03:28:00 2021
    What blank messages?
    Blank messages shouldn't show up in your reader, but if you see any,
    they probably are voting data.
    Im testing out Talisman, I am thinking about ending my relationship with
    the Santos Family. Its like Synchronet and Maximus had a baby.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Matthew Munson on Sun Oct 31 01:35:49 2021
    Re: blank messages
    By: Matthew Munson to Nightfox on Thu Oct 28 2021 08:28 pm

    What blank messages?
    Blank messages shouldn't show up in your reader, but if you see any,
    they probably are voting data.
    Im testing out Talisman, I am thinking about ending my relationship with
    the Santos Family. Its like Synchronet and Maximus had a baby.

    i checked it. looks decent. but how do you setup doors?
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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to MRO on Sun Oct 31 02:10:00 2021
    i checked it. looks decent. but how do you setup doors?
    That is one thing I'll be doing soon. I want to add some win32 doors like Galactic Dynasty on it.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Matthew Munson on Thu Nov 4 01:17:02 2021
    Re: blank messages
    By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Sat Oct 30 2021 07:10 pm

    i checked it. looks decent. but how do you setup doors?
    That is one thing I'll be doing soon. I want to add some win32 doors like Galactic Dynasty on it.


    not WILL YOU. how do you?
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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to MRO on Thu Nov 4 04:31:00 2021
    not WILL YOU. how do you?
    my dyn.bat

    CD\bbs\DOOR\GDYN
    GalacticDynasty.exe c:\bbs\temp\%1\door32.sys

    and then in the doors menu :

    [[menuitem]]
    command = "RUNDOOR"
    data = "c:/bbs/dyn.bat"
    hotkey = "1"



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Matthew Munson on Fri Nov 5 03:28:05 2021
    Re: blank messages
    By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Wed Nov 03 2021 09:31 pm

    not WILL YOU. how do you?
    my dyn.bat

    CD\bbs\DOOR\GDYN
    GalacticDynasty.exe c:\bbs\temp\%1\door32.sys

    and then in the doors menu :

    [[menuitem]]
    command = "RUNDOOR"
    data = "c:/bbs/dyn.bat"
    hotkey = "1"


    there's no good 32bit doorgames. how do you run dos doors?
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Matthew Munson on Thu Nov 11 17:38:48 2021
    On 11/3/21 14:31, Matthew Munson wrote:

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    Aside, looks like Talisman doesn't track reply-to references, at least
    not in any way Synchronet brings in via .rep
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  • From apam@VERT/HAPPYLND to Tracker1 on Fri Nov 12 18:21:00 2021
    Aside, looks like Talisman doesn't track reply-to references, at least
    not in any way Synchronet brings in via .rep

    Talisman doesn't have any support for HEADERS.DAT at this stage. So you
    wont get any message-ids / reply-ids.

    Andrew

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to apam on Fri Nov 12 02:50:39 2021
    Re: Re: blank messages
    By: apam to Tracker1 on Fri Nov 12 2021 10:21 am

    Aside, looks like Talisman doesn't track reply-to references, at least not in any way Synchronet brings in via .rep

    Talisman doesn't have any support for HEADERS.DAT at this stage. So you
    wont get any message-ids / reply-ids.

    Those message metadata items are also available via QWK kludges, @MSGID and @REPLY, but HEADERS.DAT is better:
    https://wiki.synchro.net/ref:qwk
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  • From apam@VERT/HAPPYLND to Digital Man on Fri Nov 12 23:53:00 2021
    Those message metadata items are also available via QWK kludges,
    @MSGID and @REPLY, but HEADERS.DAT is better:

    I take it sysops would have to enable the QWK kludges on vert?

    When I add them, I'd do HEADERS.DAT. I had done it in Magicka, but
    haven't got around to it in Talisman. The stuff for INI files is already
    there, the only reason I hadn't done it was I wasn't sure about how to
    make properly unique MSGIDs, in magicka i had libuuid, but I'm not sure
    that's available on Windows. (I remember from magicka that you were keen
    on uniqueness ;P)

    I guess it's a motivation thing really :)

    Is the replyid thing particularly annoying? I had assumed most
    non-synchronet BBSes didn't have it.

    Andrew

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to apam on Fri Nov 12 22:27:06 2021
    Re: Re: blank messages
    By: apam to Digital Man on Fri Nov 12 2021 03:53 pm

    Those message metadata items are also available via QWK kludges,
    @MSGID and @REPLY, but HEADERS.DAT is better:

    I take it sysops would have to enable the QWK kludges on vert?

    Yes, it's an option on the QWK packet configuration/settings menu.

    When I add them, I'd do HEADERS.DAT.

    Yeah, that's preferrable. I may be removing the old kludge line support at some point in the future.

    I had done it in Magicka, but
    haven't got around to it in Talisman. The stuff for INI files is already there, the only reason I hadn't done it was I wasn't sure about how to
    make properly unique MSGIDs, in magicka i had libuuid, but I'm not sure that's available on Windows. (I remember from magicka that you were keen
    on uniqueness ;P)

    When it comes to message IDs, yeah, uniqueness is the whole point. :-)

    I guess it's a motivation thing really :)

    Is the replyid thing particularly annoying? I had assumed most non-synchronet BBSes didn't have it.

    It's a very common feature for FTN-supporting software, so most sysops and users kind of expect thread linkage support these days. It just brings QWKnet up to par with FTN in that regard (or exceeds FTNs in the area of message-ID-uniqueness).
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  • From Utopian Galt@VERT/IUTOPIA to apam on Sat Nov 13 05:07:00 2021
    Talisman doesn't have any support for HEADERS.DAT at this stage. So
    you
    wont get any message-ids / reply-ids.
    At least im trying to dogfood other bbs packages to help make them better.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Utopian Galt on Sat Nov 13 16:38:55 2021
    Re: Re: blank messages
    By: Utopian Galt to apam on Fri Nov 12 2021 09:07 pm

    At least im trying to dogfood other bbs packages to help make them better.

    what?
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sat Nov 13 17:49:35 2021
    Re: Re: blank messages
    By: MRO to Utopian Galt on Sat Nov 13 2021 08:38 am

    Re: Re: blank messages
    By: Utopian Galt to apam on Fri Nov 12 2021 09:07 pm

    At least im trying to dogfood other bbs packages to help make them better.

    what?

    https://www.centercode.com/blog/dogfooding-101
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sun Nov 14 03:45:07 2021
    Re: Re: blank messages
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Nov 13 2021 09:49 am

    Re: Re: blank messages
    By: MRO to Utopian Galt on Sat Nov 13 2021 08:38 am

    Re: Re: blank messages
    By: Utopian Galt to apam on Fri Nov 12 2021 09:07 pm

    At least im trying to dogfood other bbs packages to help make them better.

    what?

    https://www.centercode.com/blog/dogfooding-101
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    that's weird that they would even think up a term for that. they should run their own software to test it.

    matt isnt a developer so him being a tester isnt the same though. that is matt, right?
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  • From Utopian Galt@VERT/IUTOPIA to MRO on Sun Nov 14 02:39:00 2021
    what?
    its a term for testing.


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