Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Feb 23 2022 03:20 am

well maybe his reading comprehension has improved due to me being an asshole

I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an external maintenance program that needs to be ran everyday. Having some check system as you suggested would be extremely burdensome. Pausing calls and running the maintenance program is the best option, just like the old days. Asshole comments never really help anyone. I have extra TP if you need it.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Wed Feb 23 2022 10:06 pm

Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Feb 23 2022 03:20 am

well maybe his reading comprehension has improved due to me being an asshole

I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an

you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix it even though digitalman told you.

you still claimed it was because of node 1.


and now i will waste my time by showing you what you wrote. https://i.imgur.com/SIS0C8e.png
https://i.imgur.com/sDP2xdX.png

here is the blind leading the blind
https://i.imgur.com/LAPKWu3.png

here is rob telling you native was the key and node doesn't matter https://i.imgur.com/ACXtyFq.png
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Thu Feb 24 2022 06:25 am

I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't
think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's
first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an

you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix it even though digitalman told you.

You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your recent contributions are non-helpful.

I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to others here.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tristan Greaves to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 01:37 pm

You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your recent contributions are non-helpful.

i actually provided helpful information that he asked for.
he ignored it.
He even said the developer was not helpful and was still looking for a solution.
then he did what the developer said [or maybe he didn't even do that] and thought that running it on node one worked.

and then he asked me if there was another way and i told him about using a flag file method to launch maint.

you apparently can't read either.

I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to others here.

i couldn't care less about your feelings.
i don't suffer fools.


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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tristan Greaves to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 01:37 pm

I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to others here.

I don't really know MRO, but when people (to some extent including myself) talk about him when he's not present, the general consensus is that:

- he's a dick
- he's knows he's a dick
- there's no point engaging with him because you'll never change him

<shrug>

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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Andre to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:04 am

I don't really know MRO, but when people (to some extent including myself) talk about him when he's not present, the general consensus is that:

- he's a dick
- he's knows he's a dick
- there's no point engaging with him because you'll never change him

Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years, as I am more knowledgable about this software, I do thank him for all of his help, as a lot of the baja code I use, he taught me to explore and enhance, and never settle. Yes, he has made me stop and think at times with his comments, I still value his thoughts, however harsh they are at times. The key is to know when to reply or ignore...

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Tristan Greaves wrote to MRO <=-

I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't
think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's
first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an

you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix it

eve

n though digitalman told you.

You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your
recent contributions are non-helpful.

I hate to say it, and trust me, I'm no "MRO fan".... but in this case,
he's right. Read the whole thread carefully and you can see that.



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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tristan Greaves to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 01:37 pm

you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix
it even though digitalman told you.

You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your recent contributions are non-helpful.

I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to others here.

MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/

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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: DesotoFireflite to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 11:29 am

Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years,

There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no assholes" rule for hiring. All the help in the world isn't very useful if they run everyone off and make people avoid the message boards, or in the worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in general.


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Andre wrote to DesotoFireflite <=-

Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: DesotoFireflite to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 11:29 am

Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years,

There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no
assholes" rule for hiring.

Really? Do you think they'd know a person was an asshole based on a 20 minute interview where the person would naturally be on their best behavior in order to
get the job? I think that's a stretch.

All the help in the world isn't very
useful if they run everyone off and make people avoid the message
boards, or in the worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in
general.

While that may be (sort of) true, it's mostly projection/speculation, and doesn't really apply to the case at hand. While I would agree that MRO is generally an asshole, he was actually right in this thread.



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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Gamgee to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 07:02 pm

Andre wrote to DesotoFireflite <=-

Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: DesotoFireflite to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 11:29 am

Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years,

There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no
assholes" rule for hiring.

Really? Do you think they'd know a person was an asshole based on a 20 minute interview where the person would naturally be on their best behavior in order to
get the job? I think that's a stretch.

I interview a lot of people at work - you'd be surprised what you can glean from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person would be on their *best* behavior.

All the help in the world isn't very
useful if they run everyone off and make people avoid the message boards, or in the worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in general.

While that may be (sort of) true, it's mostly projection/speculation, and doesn't really apply to the case at hand. While I would agree that MRO is generally an asshole, he was actually right in this thread.

Actually, I don't think MRO added any technical value to the discussion whatsoever. <shrug>
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Nightfox to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:05 am

to others here.

MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/

i wasnt even that bad.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:08 pm

Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Nightfox to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:05 am

to others here.

MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/

i wasnt even that bad.

I think I now have PTSD, I'll never run another batch file again...
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:49 pm

Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:08 pm

Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Nightfox to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:05 am

to others here.

MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/

i wasnt even that bad.

I think I now have PTSD, I'll never run another batch file again...

the ironic thing is you got the problem wrong again.
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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Gamgee to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 07:02 pm

Really? Do you think they'd know a person was an asshole based on a 20 minute interview where the person would naturally be on their best behavior in order to get the job? I think that's a stretch.

I've hired a lot of people and interviewed so many people I've lost count. The only odd personality that we missed was a weeb. And it's not necessarily that you're screening out the assholes directly. They get tossed out without anyone else who's arrogant about their ability.

And it's not just hiring. Those people get fired. Those people get lower bonuses and raises. I know, because I do those things.

While that may be (sort of) true, it's mostly projection/speculation, and doesn't really apply to the case at hand.

If you lead enough teams of people, either at work or in other parts of life, you learn quickly how fast people leave because of a toxic person. I've lost great employees because of it. And I've struggled to increase membership at clubs because of it... new people don't last more than a few meetings because of a bunch of morons that can't stop working politics into every discussion.

So no, I don't have hard data about BBS networks. I have a ton of personal experience that says it's probably been a problem here for years.

While I would agree that MRO is generally an asshole, he was actually right in this thread.

The poster has a working solution. So there are multiple right solutions, maybe one being better than the other. One of those right solutions the poster walked away happy and had a good experience with the community. The other right solution had the person walk away feeling like the community is painful to be around.

Beyond that MRO and some of the others are a wider problem. MRO can't go a single post without being offensive. People who wear being an asshole as a badge of honor don't like when everyone else talks out loud about what an asshole they are. But he's far from the only problem person... The guys cursing each other out in General about Trump/Biden aren't much better.


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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:49 pm

i wasnt even that bad.

I think I now have PTSD, I'll never run another batch file again...

It's not just about you versus MRO. It's about the rest of us, new people checking about BBSes, others less active people who sit on the sidelines.

This sort of thing and the behavior in other sub-boards turns people away. Even the discussion about Star Wars and LOTR has now turned into trans, black elves, and drag queen story time (by MRO referencing buttplugs, of course).


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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Thu Feb 24 2022 06:41 pm

I interview a lot of people at work - you'd be surprised what you can glean from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
would be on their *best* behavior.

100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.

It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true character traits...
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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tristan Greaves to Digital Man on Fri Feb 25 2022 09:42 am

Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Thu Feb 24 2022 06:41 pm

I interview a lot of people at work - you'd be surprised what you

can
glean from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
would be on their *best* behavior.

100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.

It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true character traits...

i've found that at interviews what they don't say can say much more.
and interviews are a two way street. some people don't realize this.


I interviewed at a place where nobody was a fit in their current job and they couldn't keep people. They acted like everything was perfectly normal. if i were to ask them why people don't stay they'd say they don't know. the answer is the place was falling apart. They mentioned how there was a lot of opportunity. yeah i bet! so many people leave you can fill in for them along with your current job.

I couldn't wait to get out of there. It was a huge waste of my time and i sacrificed my sleep and time to go to that sham of an interview.

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Andre wrote to DesotoFireflite <=-

There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no assholes"
rule for hiring. All the help in the world isn't very useful if they
run everyone off and make people avoid the message boards, or in the
worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in general.

I worked in one company, for a period of time, where IT management and HR hired cool smart people that got along well. One of my friends, who was a
BBS caller of mine was leaving to go back to school, and urged me to apply there.

I went through the interview process, and they ended up making a position
for me based on my skills, not looking much like the position I applied for. We ran a production e-commerce site with 8 people supporting everything, and it just *worked*.

We'd hired a systems architect, and I approved his hire based on the role.
The manager who built the IT department left to go work for the parent company, and instead of hiring someone new they promoted the architect - who no one had vetted as a people manager.

Within 3 months, he'd brought in a crony friend of his and his hires ended
up not blending in with the rest of the department. It had all changed by
the time I ended up following my old manager to the parent company.



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Andre wrote to Gamgee <=-

I've hired a lot of people and interviewed so many people I've lost
count. The only odd personality that we missed was a weeb.

Thank you for my new word of the week.


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Andre wrote to Tim Whitson <=-

This sort of thing and the behavior in other sub-boards turns people
away. Even the discussion about Star Wars and LOTR has now turned into trans, black elves, and drag queen story time (by MRO referencing buttplugs, of course).

I was thinking that it was time to take him out of my killfile. Maybe not.


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Tristan Greaves wrote to Digital Man <=-

from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person

would be on their *best* behavior.

100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.

It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true character traits...

"I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!"

or

"Where would you like to be in 5 years?"

"Well, I'd have to say listening was my biggest weakness..."


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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tristan Greaves on Fri Feb 25 2022 07:37 am

Tristan Greaves wrote to Digital Man <=-

from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person

would be on their *best* behavior.

100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.

It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true character traits...

"I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!"

or

"Where would you like to be in 5 years?"

celebrating the 5 year anniversary of you asking me this question

"Well, I'd have to say listening was my biggest weakness..."

my biggest weakness is I care too much.


i hate stupid interview questions. just shows how stupid the interviewer is.
i can't respect someone with moronic interview questions.
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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tristan Greaves on Fri Feb 25 2022 07:37 am

Tristan Greaves wrote to Digital Man <=-

from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person

would be on their *best* behavior.

100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.

It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true character traits...

"I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!"

or

"Where would you like to be in 5 years?"

"Well, I'd have to say listening was my biggest weakness..."

by the way, just pointing out this is not synchronet related...
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