Re: desktop enviornment
By: Nightfox to Chris on Sat Aug 10 2013 11:21 pm

I agree about Windows 7 - I like its interface, and I'm still not convinced that Windows 8's interface is the way to go on the desktop. I think Windows 8's interface works well on a tablet (at least, something with a touch scree in easy reach), but I think the traditional desktop interface is still best a desktop computer.

Nightfox

I'm not getting this whole windows 8 thing. If it was built for a touchscreen why would you want it on a desktop? I also didn't like to give into microsofts monopoly but finally gave up when Unix like Os couldn't decide what time it was. I would go to COMPUSA and all the software was for windows with a few isles for MAC. I worked for an ISP for a few years and UNIX was great at the time but Microsoft eventually caught up. I never did like MAC although my kids love em. Now I'm the out cast with all my MS machines and software. HA!
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Re: desktop enviornment
By: Hustler to Nightfox on Wed Sep 04 2013 11:36 pm

I'm not getting this whole windows 8 thing. If it was built for a touchscree why would you want it on a desktop? I also didn't like to give into microsof monopoly but finally gave up when Unix like Os couldn't decide what time it was.

I am not sure that I understand what you mean about the time. Do you not like the system RTC using UTC, and then translating that to local time for the user?

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Re: desktop enviornment
By: Hustler to Nightfox on Wed Sep 04 2013 23:36:12

I'm not getting this whole windows 8 thing. If it was built for a touchscreen why would you want it on a desktop? I also didn't like to give

It was actually built for the Windows Phone, part of Microsoft's belief
that if every device / appliance runs windows, and they get you to use
windows live for everything, then you can use your apps and files any
where. Now you want to talk about monopoly's many folks want to slam
their iron fist at Microsoft but close their eyes to Apple's iPhones!
At least Microsoft doesn't force you to take out a warranty on windows
at the time of purchase, or not be able to warranty it ever again.
Personally, I find Microsoft has much better ethics than Apple!
Once Jobs kicked Waz to the curb, Apple's morals went south for good!
Unfortiantly, Microsoft is wanting to move everyone to using phone apps.
Personally, I've grown more found of slackware again and puppy on my desktop.


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Re: desktop enviornment
By: KF5QEO to Hustler on Mon Sep 09 2013 07:51 am

Re: desktop enviornment
By: Hustler to Nightfox on Wed Sep 04 2013 23:36:12

I'm not getting this whole windows 8 thing. If it was built for a touchscreen why would you want it on a desktop? I also didn't like to giv

It was actually built for the Windows Phone, part of Microsoft's belief
that if every device / appliance runs windows, and they get you to use
windows live for everything, then you can use your apps and files any
where.

I have always assumed that the obvious plan is to have one compute
device. It may be phone, or it may be a tablet, but either way, it will
be portable. The one device would be usable all by itself, and it can be controlled by our other interface devices.

So lets say that the tablet is our compute device, and you want to run
an app on your phone. The phone will simply display the interface, but
the tablet will do all of the processing. The same concept will work
with your smart-watch, smart-eyeglass, or the keyboard-mouse-monitor
terminal on your desk.

If my vision of the future is correct, then Microsoft and Windows 8 are
in a good position to own all of the markets because they have already
created an environment where tablet/phone style apps live in harmony
with desktop apps, and the metaphor can extend to whatever interface
device comes down the line.

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If my vision of the future is correct, then Microsoft and Windows 8 are
in a good position to own all of the markets because they have already created an environment where tablet/phone style apps live in harmony
with desktop apps, and the metaphor can extend to whatever interface device comes down the line.

FYI, Ubuntu's "Unity" interface was out well before Windows 8 hit the shelves. Android OS was also. M$ definitely wasn't the trend setter in this case, like they have been in the past.

Either way, I will never get rid of desktop computers. They are way better than tablets and phones, IMO.

Regards,
Nick


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Re: desktop enviornment
By: Access Denied to Folsom on Mon Sep 09 2013 06:15 pm

shelves. Android OS was also. M$ definitely wasn't the trend setter in this case, like they have been in the past.

Either way, I will never get rid of desktop computers. They are way better than tablets and phones, IMO.

well desktop computers arent selling well and i think the gameplan is to phase them out.

we might have to end up doing some stuff with server hardware to get that desktop experience in the future.

personally, i hate tablets. i hate smearing my fingers on my phone. i can barely spell shit correctly on my s3. i dont want to relearn how i do things using some app so i can spell shit right.
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Re: desktop enviornment
By: Mro to Access Denied on Mon Sep 09 2013 08:54 pm

Re: desktop enviornment
By: Access Denied to Folsom on Mon Sep 09 2013 06:15 pm

shelves. Android OS was also. M$ definitely wasn't the trend setter in this case, like they have been in the past.

Either way, I will never get rid of desktop computers. They are way better than tablets and phones, IMO.

well desktop computers arent selling well and i think the gameplan is to phase them out.

we might have to end up doing some stuff with server hardware to get that desktop experience in the future.

personally, i hate tablets. i hate smearing my fingers on my phone. i can barely spell shit correctly on my s3. i dont want to relearn how i do
things using some app so i can spell shit right.

If they phase out desktop computers, I'll go back to TV then. Call me old-fashioned but I love the desktop environment personally.

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Re: desktop enviornment
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Tue Sep 10 2013 12:59 pm

Re: desktop enviornment
By: Mro to Access Denied on Mon Sep 09 2013 08:54 pm

Re: desktop enviornment
By: Access Denied to Folsom on Mon Sep 09 2013 06:15 pm

shelves. Android OS was also. M$ definitely wasn't the trend setter in this case, like they have been in the past.

Either way, I will never get rid of desktop computers. They are way better than tablets and phones, IMO.

well desktop computers arent selling well and i think the gameplan is to phase them out.

we might have to end up doing some stuff with server hardware to get that desktop experience in the future.

personally, i hate tablets. i hate smearing my fingers on my phone. i can barely spell shit correctly on my s3. i dont want to relearn how i do things using some app so i can spell shit right.

If they phase out desktop computers, I'll go back to TV then. Call me old-fashioned but I love the desktop environment personally.

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Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada
the.millionaire@parkave.synchro.net

desktops for consumers are turning into giant tablets.
look at dell and acers stuff. looks like a tablet on a pedistal.

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Re: desktop enviornment
By: KF5QEO to Hustler on Mon Sep 09 2013 07:51:31

Personally, I find Microsoft has much better ethics than Apple! Once Unfortiantly, Microsoft is wanting to move everyone to using phone apps. Personally, I've grown more found of slackware again and puppy on my desktop.

|03 I had a few bucks to spare 2 years ago and purchased a smart phone with verizon (Nexus) a tablet (One android and one with windows ce) and two netbooks. They are all in the closet while I use my laptop with Windows 7.
You can take that touch screen crap and stick it where the sun don't shine!

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Re: desktop enviornment
By: Access Denied to Folsom on Mon Sep 09 2013 06:15 pm

Either way, I will never get rid of desktop computers. They are way better than tablets and phones, IMO.

I'd love to see the idea of a dockable phone. Motorola tried it a while back, and the Ubuntu One could make it work - dual core CPU and Ubuntu Linux on a phone with Micro-HDMI and Bluetooth. Plug into a monitor and pair a BT mouse and keyboard and off you go.

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I'd love to see the ideaof a dockable phone. Motorola tried it a while back, and the Ubuntu One could make it work - dual core CPU and Ubuntu Linux on a phone with Micro-HDMI and Bluetooth. Plug into a monitor and pair a BT mouse and keyboard and off you go.

That's blasphemy. How dare you! :)

But really, no thanks. My phone does the job I need it to do, and I've never had to hook it up to a monitor. I do, however, have three monitors on my
gaming rig now, so maybe I'm making up for lost times or something. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On 09-11-13, Access Denied said the following...

But really, no thanks. My phone does the job I need it to do, and I've never had to hook it up to a monitor. I do, however, have three monitors on my gaming rig now, so maybe I'm making up for lost times or
something. :)

Heh three? I do well just to keep my sanity with TWO monitors on my work desktop (well, laptop really).

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Re: Re: desktop enviornment
By: Warp 4 to Access Denied on Fri Sep 13 2013 10:25 am

On 09-11-13, Access Denied said the following...

But really, no thanks. My phone does the job I need it to do, and
I've never had to hook it up to a monitor. I do, however, have three
monitors on my gaming rig now, so maybe I'm making up for lost times
or something. :)

Heh three? I do well just to keep my sanity with TWO monitors on my work desktop (well, laptop really).

You need 3 otherwise your gun sights will be cut off. I use 4 myself.


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Re: desktop enviornment
By: Hustler to Nightfox on Wed Sep 04 2013 23:36:12

I'm not getting this whole windows 8 thing. If it was built for a touchscreen why would you want it on a desktop?

I agree. I think Microsoft has focused too much on the tablet side. Not only is Windows 8 designed for touch screens, I think it looks ugly too - Microsoft has removed the arguably better-looking glassy and deep-looking interface with a flat interface with plain colors. I think Windows 8 looks ugly. Google and Apple seem to be doing the same with their mobile operating systems. It all just looks like crap, IMO. Even on the desktop side, Microsoft is making the user interfaces of their software flat with simple (even monochrome) colors. Microsoft's Office 2013 and especially Visual Studio 2013 just look fugly, IMO.

It seems everyone is focused on tablets though. Everyone is saying tablets are the 'in' thing these days, and all the major companies seem to be focused on producting either tablets or software that work well on tablets, to the detriment of desktop products.

I also didn't like to give
into microsofts monopoly but finally gave up when Unix like Os couldn't

I used to feel like that too.. In the 90s, I started trying some different operating systems so that I could possibly switch away from Microsoft. I occasionally used OS/2 for a little while and also started to seriously look into Linux, and I tried BeOS too (which I thought was a very promising new OS, since its GUI was simple but effective and good-looking, and it was a very fast OS too). I've been watching the Haiku project, which aims to create an open-source recreation of BeOS.

decide what time it was. I would go to COMPUSA and all the software was for windows with a few isles for MAC. I worked for an ISP for a few years and UNIX was great at the time but Microsoft eventually caught up. I never did like MAC although my kids love em. Now I'm the out cast with all my MS machines and software. HA! Regards

Yeah, there still seems to be much more software available for Windows (which is the main reason I continue to use Windows), but I have a feeling that situation may be changing. Apple continues to sell many of their computers and devices, and Android and Linux both have strong marketshare now as well. Also with Valve's recent announcement of SteamOS, I'm curious how gaming might change too. If gave companies start supporting Linux as a platform, then I might seriously consider switching to Linux. Currently my favorite Linux distribution is Mint, but there's certainly a lot of good Linux distributions out there. I've also had a look at FreeBSD again recently and like its UI - but I'm not sure that BSD-based operating systems are as widely supported as Linux.

Nightfox

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