• 2020

    From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to All on Tue Dec 31 03:28:00 2019
    Happy New Year,

    Holger


    .. Can't use Windows. My cat ate the mouse.
    -- MR/2 2.30

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  • From Robin Hajek@2:420/33 to Holger Granholm on Thu Jan 9 14:26:46 2020
    Hi, Holger!

    December 31 2019, Holger Granholm write All:

    Happy New Year,

    Holger

    Also Happy New Year Holger!

    I restored MultiLine Sio2K/2 and FrontDoor/2 and GEcho/2 and PCBoard/2 and GoldED/2 after ten years and I had a lot of work with the IP connection.

    Telnet port 23 is unusable, but managed to use port 2030 with Sio2K/2 and FrontDoor/2.

    I'm not a programmer, so I got it difficult. Is there a possibility that the PCBoard can be connected via IP and port?

    Thank you for the advice.

    Bye
    Robin

    --- GEcho 1.20/KLF Team
    * Origin: POPPER Univerzal BBS (FidoNet), Praha, Czech Republic EU (2:420/33)
  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Robin Hajek on Sat Jan 11 02:39:00 2020
    In a message on 01-10-20 Holger Granholm said to Robin Hajek:

    Hello again Robin,

    I restored MultiLine Sio2K/2 and FrontDoor/2 and GEcho/2 and
    PCBoard/2 and GoldED/2 after ten years and I had a lot of work with
    the IP connection.

    I don't understand why you are using all those external programs when
    almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

    If I remember it correctly there is software in the SIO package that
    I used to connect to internet but I don't remember if I used the
    connection for anything else than just mail.

    In addition to the above I have checked my registered SIO v1.35 program
    and it contains the VMODEM program that I use with PCBoard to connect to
    the Internet.

    Nothing else was required for that.

    Then again, I do use some PPE utilities that make it easier to use
    PCBoard itself and for reading/replying to QWK messages the MR/2 program
    for OS/2 but you can use MultiMail instead which is free and available
    for many operating systems.

    At the moment I'm investigating BinkP to connect to the Internet but I
    have other things to do that are more important at the moment.


    Have a nice day,

    Holger


    .. DOS is your PC. Windows is your PC on drugs. Any Question?
    -- MR/2 2.30

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  • From Robin Hajek@2:420/33 to Holger Granholm on Sun Jan 12 21:40:41 2020
    Hi, Holger!

    I restored MultiLine Sio2K/2 and FrontDoor/2 and GEcho/2 and
    PCBoard/2 and GoldED/2 after ten years and I had a lot of work
    with the IP connection.

    I don't understand why you are using all those external programs when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

    The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor and the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I bought a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

    If I remember it correctly there is software in the SIO package
    that I used to connect to internet but I don't remember if I used
    the connection for anything else than just mail.

    In addition to the above I have checked my registered SIO v1.35
    program and it contains the VMODEM program that I use with PCBoard to connect to the Internet.

    Yes, I also have a registered SIO program but I use v.1.6D and VMODEM to connect FrontDoor to the Internet.

    More specifically, I should have. Today I use SIO2K v2.02 and eCS 2.2, not OS/2
    Warp.

    Nothing else was required for that.

    Then again, I do use some PPE utilities that make it easier to use
    PCBoard itself and for reading/replying to QWK messages the MR/2
    program for OS/2 but you can use MultiMail instead which is free and available for many operating systems.

    I understand, but I've never used PCBard alone and for FidoNet. It has always been just a bulletin board, so I have no experience connecting PCBoard to the Internet independently without FrontDoor :-(

    At the moment I'm investigating BinkP to connect to the Internet but I have other things to do that are more important at the moment.

    Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are useless today :-(

    I have time, but again I do not have programming skills and I cannot set many things myself. Previously, my colleague helped me with everything he could, but
    he doesn't deal with it anymore and I don't know English and I can't do anything without Google :-(

    Bye
    Robin

    --- GEcho 1.20/KLF Team
    * Origin: POPPER Univerzal BBS (FidoNet), Praha, BOHEMIA & MORAVIA (2:420/33)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Robin Hajek on Mon Jan 13 12:25:45 2020
    Hi! Robin,

    On 13 Jan 20 05:40, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

    Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are
    useless today :-(

    I have time, but again I do not have programming skills and I cannot
    set many things myself. Previously, my colleague helped me with
    everything he could, but he doesn't deal with it anymore and I don't
    know English and I can't do anything without Google :-(

    (I don't always read messages here, Robin.) I have to say that your written English is a lot better than some so-called 'native' English-speaking folks' efforts. Don't hold back.

    Holger's posts get a 'wow!' from me every time, even if don't include them in my notes. :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better!
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
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  • From Robin K. Popper (hajek)@2:420/33 to Paul Quinn on Mon Jan 13 05:47:35 2020
    Hi, Paul!

    (I don't always read messages here, Robin.) I have to say that your written English is a lot better than some so-called 'native' English-speaking folks' efforts. Don't hold back.

    Thank you for the praise, but it belongs to Mr. GOOGLE :-) Microsoft translators and even produced in our country in the Czech Republic do not achieve so great results. Mr. GOODLE is very good. I try, but it is difficult especially when I need to answer :-(
    Bye
    Robin

    --- GEcho 1.20/KLF Team
    * Origin: POPPER Univerzal BBS (FidoNet), Praha, BOHEMIA & MORAVIA (2:420/33)
  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Robin Hajek on Tue Jan 14 13:31:00 2020
    In a message on 01-13-20 Robin Hajek said to Holger Granholm:

    Hi Robin,

    I don't understand why you are using all those external programs when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

    The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor and
    the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I bought a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

    OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and laptop
    machines and that one doesn't require any external programs.

    If I remember it correctly there is software in the SIO package

    Yes, I also have a registered SIO program but I use v.1.6D and
    VMODEM to connect FrontDoor to the Internet.

    More specifically, I should have. Today I use SIO2K v2.02 and eCS
    2.2, not OS/2 Warp.

    Nothing else was required for that.

    Interesting. I have also considered either eCS or the one called BlueLion

    I understand, but I've never used PCBard alone and for FidoNet.
    It has always been just a bulletin board, so I have no experience connecting PCBoard to the Internet independently without FrontDoor

    Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are
    useless today :-(

    You don't have to use port 23. You can use port 2023 instead.

    I have time, but again I do not have programming skills and I cannot
    set many things myself and I don't know English and I can't do
    anything without Google :-(

    Have a nice day.

    Holger


    .. Running without Microsoft or Intel.
    -- MR/2 2.30



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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Holger Granholm on Wed Jan 15 01:00:09 2020
    Re: Re: 2020
    By: Holger Granholm to Robin Hajek on Tue Jan 14 2020 21:31:00


    I don't understand why you are using all those external programs
    when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

    The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor and
    the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I bought
    a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

    OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and laptop machines and that one doesn't require any external programs.

    it must be noted that there is a huge difference between Frontdoor and Frontdoor APX... the former is a general purpose FTN mailer whereas the latter is an all-in-one point user app... the former can be run stand-alone or in front of a BBS whereas the latter cannot be used to handle mail calls for a BBS
    at all...


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  • From Robin Karel Popper Alias Hajek@2:420/33 to Mark Lewis on Wed Jan 15 12:54:53 2020
    Hi, Mark!

    Re: Re: 2020
    By: Holger Granholm to Robin Hajek on Tue Jan 14 2020 21:31:00

    I don't understand why you are using all those external
    programs when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

    The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor
    and the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I
    bought a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

    OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and
    laptop machines and that one doesn't require any external
    programs.

    it must be noted that there is a huge difference between Frontdoor and Frontdoor APX... the former is a general purpose FTN mailer whereas
    the latter is an all-in-one point user app... the former can be run stand-alone or in front of a BBS whereas the latter cannot be used to handle mail calls for a BBS at all...

    exactly. FrontDoor 2.32mL can be said for a professional and can do a lot, but requires external programs. For example, he worked for me 10 years ago as a
    multiline for 4x US Robotics Courier and I was NC for the Czech Republic. FDAPX
    is for end point and undemanding. In addition, I think that in Windows 64 bit does not even work :-(

    Bye
    Robin

    --- GEcho 1.20/KLF Team
    * Origin: POPPER Univerzal BBS (FidoNet), Praha, BOHEMIA & MORAVIA (2:420/33)
  • From Robin Karel Popper Alias Hajek@2:420/33 to Holger Granholm on Wed Jan 15 13:06:10 2020
    Hi, Holger!

    I don't understand why you are using all those external programs
    when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

    The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor and
    the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I bought
    a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

    OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and laptop machines and that one doesn't require any external programs.

    FDAPX is a breeze, it can't run PCBoard, and if there's a coordinator in Fidonet, it can't use it and doesn't work in 64 bit.

    Interesting. I have also considered either eCS or the one called
    BlueLion

    eCS and BlueLion are only slightly upgraded Warp. Kernel is still the same :-( But I love OS / 2 and so mmsm eCS even though it is not cheap :-(

    I understand, but I've never used PCBard alone and for FidoNet.
    It has always been just a bulletin board, so I have no experience
    connecting PCBoard to the Internet independently without FrontDoor

    Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are
    useless today :-(

    You don't have to use port 23. You can use port 2023 instead.

    I worked for a long time and I couldn't persuade SIO and VM. Finally, Tomi from Belgium advised me, and FrontDoor dials through port 2030, but we didn't solve it to accept calls as well.

    Bye
    Robin

    --- GEcho 1.20/KLF Team
    * Origin: POPPER Univerzal BBS (FidoNet), Praha, BOHEMIA & MORAVIA (2:420/33)
  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Robin Karel Popper Alias on Thu Jan 16 03:42:00 2020
    In a message on 01-15-20 Robin Karel Popper Alias said to Holger
    Granholm:

    Good evening Karel,

    FDAPX is a breeze, it can't run PCBoard, and if there's a
    coordinator in Fidonet, it can't use it and doesn't work in 64 bit.

    Yes I know. I have only used FDAPX as a point when at my office or beeing
    away on a trip. Since everything is built-in in PCBoard I have never had
    a need for something to start it up.

    eCS and BlueLion are only slightly upgraded Warp. Kernel is
    still the same :-( But I love OS / 2 and so mmsm eCS even though it
    is not cheap :-(

    Yes I know about the prices and a little about what they do. The price
    and the slowly dying Fidonet are the reasons why I have not upgraded to
    either program.

    I understand, but I've never used PCBard alone and for FidoNet.

    I have always used PCBoard for both my BBS and Fidonet. Actually I joined Fidonet some years after starting the BBS.

    Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are
    useless today :-(

    It's not the only option and Telnet isn't dead yet.

    I worked for a long time and I couldn't persuade SIO and VM.
    Finally, Tomi from Belgium advised me, and FrontDoor dials through
    port 2030, but we didn't solve it to accept calls as well.


    Have a good night,

    Holger


    .. I'm not afraid to die but I don't want to be there when it happens
    -- MR/2 2.30

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Mark Lewis on Thu Jan 16 03:42:00 2020
    In a message on 01-15-20 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

    Hi Mark,

    OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and laptop machines and that one doesn't require any external programs.

    it must be noted that there is a huge difference between Frontdoor
    and Frontdoor APX... the former is a general purpose FTN mailer

    Yeah I know how the APX works and I have only used it to connect to my
    BBS as a point when I have either been at my office or away.

    I knew nothing about the "real" Frontdoor since I have never needed/used
    it to start anything.

    Thanks for the info.

    Have a nice day,

    Holger


    .. Madness takes its toll... Please have exact change.
    -- MR/2 2.30


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  • From Ozz Nixon@1:1/123 to Holger Granholm on Thu Mar 12 23:32:13 2020
    On 2020-01-11 10:39:00 +0000, Holger Granholm -> Robin Hajek said:

    I don't understand why you are using all those external programs when
    almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

    Sorry for such a late reply ~ the reason someone should use a different
    tosser and mailer, are QFront has bugs, PCBoard/15.4 had bugs, and
    well, the tosser does not handle any of the current special attributes
    that are available now in the ^A kludge lines. This is one reason why I hadstarted rewriting the software ~ however, due to anxiety from other authors, my product changed names, and compatability.

    PCB is still awesome in itself ~ I have a list of many PCB systems that
    are still online ~ most not in Fidonet.

    Best Regards,
    Ozz

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