Hello All,

Warpslide, now that you have everything working decent.. Try accessing your Jamnntpd server with the latest Thunderbird on Windows if you can, and let me know if you get the same issue I'm having, please. The from field above the message body in the top tile will either show numbers, or a jumbled mess.

It seems like the Win32 version of Jamnntpd doesn't have this problem. I'm wondering if it's specific to Linux. I don't think I have the issue in any other NNTP client/reader *except* Thunderbird.

Thanks in advance..

Regards,
Nick

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On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 22:25:12 -0600
"Accession -> All" <0@200.1.21> wrote:

Warpslide, now that you have everything working decent.. Try
accessing your Jamnntpd server with the latest Thunderbird on Windows
if you can, and let me know if you get the same issue I'm having,
please. The from field above the message body in the top tile will
either show numbers, or a jumbled mess.

Here's what I see in Thunderbird:
https://ibb.co/cvspphj

And how the same message looks in Claws:
https://ibb.co/zGrDWGy


I tried sending this message in Thunderbird and it wouldn't send, nor
would it connect with the NNTPS nginx proxy I have setup. Need to look
into that a bit more.


Jay

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On 2024-01-19 11:49 p.m., Wde -> Ac -> Accession wrote:

I tried sending this message in Thunderbldd and it wouldn't send, nor
would it connect with the NNTPS nginx proxy I have setup.  Need to look into that a bit more.

Turns out Thunderbird really didn't like my self-signed certificate. Let's Encrypt to the rescue...


Jay

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Hello Warpslide,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 05:49:12 -0500, you wrote:

Warpslide, now that you have everything working decent.. Try
accessing your Jamnntpd server with the latest Thunderbird on Windows
if you can, and let me know if you get the same issue I'm having,
please. The from field above the message body in the top tile will
either show numbers, or a jumbled mess.

Here's what I see in Thunderbird:
https://ibb.co/cvspphj

That's exactly how it looks in mine as well.

And how the same message looks in Claws:
https://ibb.co/zGrDWGy

I have a feeling there's still something wrong with Jamnntpd being ran on 64bit Linux even if it was compiled on 32bit.

Would you mind trying to run it where you compiled it (on the older version of 32bit Ubuntu) and see if that makes the From field display correctly in both Thunderbird and Claws mail?

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Warpslide,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 06:17:28 -0500, you wrote:

On 2024-01-19 11:49 p.m., Wde -> Ac -> Accession wrote:

I tried sending this message in Thunderbldd and it wouldn't send, nor
would it connect with the NNTPS nginx proxy I have setup.  Need to
look into that a bit more.

Turns out Thunderbird really didn't like my self-signed certificate.
Let's Encrypt to the rescue...

All good. But the original problem is still there. Everything seems to work fine, except the From field is messed up.

Was it always like that for you? I had thought you had it working while using Claws Mail, but your last two messages showed otherwise. ;(

Regards,
Nick

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On 2024-01-20 7:05 a.m., Aon -> Wa -> Warpslide wrote:

I have a feeling there's still something wrong with Jamnntpd being ran
on 64bit Linux even if it was compiled on 32bit.

Would you mind trying to run it where you compiled it (on the older
version of 32bit Ubuntu) and see if that makes the From field display correctly in both Thunderbird and Claws mail?

I copied the fsx_bbs JAM base over to Ubuntu 16.04 (32bit) and it looks the same:

https://ibb.co/hFHgVLw

$ hostnamectl
Static hstnaame: ubuntu
Icn naame: computer-vm
hasssis: vm
Macine ID: 8deeee8fcb24786dc757fdaf65a848dc
oot ID: 9aff786b3a1c4c0c8c4f37fb88707668
Virtualzatiion: vmware
OperatingSysttem: Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS
Kernnel: Linux 4.4.0-210-generic
Archiectuue:: x86


Jay

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On Saturday January 20 2024, Warpslide said the following...

$ hostnamectl
Static hstnaame: ubuntu
Icn naame: computer-vm
hasssis: vm
Macine ID: 8deeee8fcb24786dc757fdaf65a848dc
oot ID: 9aff786b3a1c4c0c8c4f37fb88707668
Virtualzatiion: vmware
OperatingSysttem: Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS
Kernnel: Linux 4.4.0-210-generic
Archiectuue:: x86

Ok, so maybe something weird with pasting in Thunderbird, but this looked fine when I pasted/posted it but got messed up server side. THIS is what I pasted:

$ hostnamectl
Static hostname: ubuntu
Icon name: computer-vm
Chassis: vm
Machine ID: 8deeee8fcb24786dc757fdaf65a848dc
Boot ID: 9aff786b3a1c4c0c8c4f37fb88707668
Virtualization: vmware
Operating System: Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS
Kernel: Linux 4.4.0-210-generic
Architecture: x86


Jay

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On Saturday January 20 2024, Jay Harris said the following...

Ok, so maybe something weird with pasting in Thunderbird, but this
looked fine when I pasted/posted it but got messed up server side.
THIS is what I pasted:

Out of curiousity, what does your jamnntpd.xlat file look like?

I added this line so that I could post from NewsTap on iOS and it only seems to support UTF-8 no matter what charset you set it to:

post utf-8 UTF-8


Jay

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Hello Warpslide,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 13:58:48 -0500, you wrote:

On 2024-01-20 7:05 a.m., Aon -> Wa -> Warpslide wrote:

I have a feeling there's still something wrong with Jamnntpd being
ran on 64bit Linux even if it was compiled on 32bit.

Would you mind trying to run it where you compiled it (on the older
version of 32bit Ubuntu) and see if that makes the From field display
correctly in both Thunderbird and Claws mail?

I copied the fsx_bbs JAM base over to Ubuntu 16.04 (32bit) and it looks
the same:

https://ibb.co/hFHgVLw

$ hostnamectl
Static hstnaame: ubuntu
Icn naame: computer-vm
hasssis: vm
Macine ID: 8deeee8fcb24786dc757fdaf65a848dc
oot ID: 9aff786b3a1c4c0c8c4f37fb88707668
Virtualzatiion: vmware
OperatingSysttem: Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS
Kernnel: Linux 4.4.0-210-generic
Archiectuue:: x86

Now the question is, is there any way you CAN get those from fields to display properly? Or did Jamnntpd permanently mess them up?

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Jay,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 14:03:14 -0500, you wrote:

Ok, so maybe something weird with pasting in Thunderbird, but this
looked fine when I pasted/posted it but got messed up server side. THIS is what I pasted:

I wonder if those same kind of antics are what's happening to the FROM field in the newsreader. It seems like letters are being taken out, new ones might be added, and for some reason sometimes it adds an extra "->" in there.

It's just super wierd that everything else seems to work, EXCEPT the from field in the newsreader (even the headers and kludges seem fine).

So with Smapinntpd, compiled and running on 64bit linux, I have no issues *except* with Thunderbird. Thunderbird still works, but it will have something like "212/192" in the from field or something similar, guessing based on the node number of the sender. Otherwise, I can read and write in Thunderbird fine. It has to be something specific to Thunderbird, but the difference in Jamnntpd vs Smapinntpd's code makes it difficult to pinpoint.


Regards,
Nick

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Hello Warpslide,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 14:14:30 -0500, you wrote:

Out of curiousity, what does your jamnntpd.xlat file look like?

I added this line so that I could post from NewsTap on iOS and it only seems to support UTF-8 no matter what charset you set it to:

post utf-8 UTF-8

I also use this. Most newsreader clients are in UTF-8 by default, so that's what I go with. Since there is a translation table for cp437 to UTF-8 (located in the unicode subdirectory), my "read" line is cp437 (since most posts from BBSs use that, and without a CHRS kludge.. so best assumption is that the message is cp437 if there is no CHRS kludge), then I do all translations to UTF-8 (but not from).

However, I doubt that has anything to do with the FROM field, since Carlos has mentioned that everything works as expected on Win32, and he was posting with UTF-8 also.

Regards,
Nick

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On 1/20/2024 1:51 PM, Accession -> Jay Harris wrote:

It's just super wierd that everything else seems to work, EXCEPT the
from field in the newsreader (even the headers and kludges seem fine).

So with Smapinntpd, compiled and running on 64bit linux, I have no
issues *except* with Thunderbird. Thunderbird still works, but it will
have something like "212/192" in the from field or something similar, guessing based on the node number of the sender. Otherwise, I can read
and write in Thunderbird fine. It has to be something specific to Thunderbird, but the difference in Jamnntpd vs Smapinntpd's code makes
it difficult to pinpoint.

Uh oh. So Carlos shot me a netmail this morning with the Jamnntpd 1.2 patch with the correct locations to put it.

Looks like I no longer have any issues with Smapinntpd and Thunderbird!

Thanks Carlos!

--
Regards,
Nick

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 22:34:36 -0600
"Accession -> Accession" <21:1/200.0> wrote:

Uh oh. So Carlos shot me a netmail this morning with the Jamnntpd 1.2
patch with the correct locations to put it.

Looks like I no longer have any issues with Smapinntpd and
Thunderbird!

Is this something you or Carlos would be willing to share? :)

This is what Thunderbird looks like with SmapiNNTPd for me: https://imgbox.com/QsOyoQVP


Jay

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 23:20:02 -0500, Warpslide -> Accession wrote:

; Looks like I no longer have any issues with Smapinntpd and
; Thunderbird!

Is this something you or Carlos would be willing to share?  :)

Most definitely:

=== BEGIN

Edit nntpserv.c (smapinntpd)

1. Insert this:

{
unsigned zone,net,node,point;
if(sscanf(dispaddr,"%u:%u/%u.%u", &zone, &net, &node, &point)==4)
sprintf(dispaddr,"%u@%u.%u.%u", point, node, net, zone);
else if(sscanf(dispaddr,"%u:%u/%u", &zone, &net, &node)==3)
sprintf(dispaddr,"0@%u.%u.%u", node, net, zone);
}

before this:

mimesendheaderline(var,"From",dispname,chrs,dispaddr,cfg_noencode);

2. Insert this:

{
unsigned zone,net,node,point;
if(sscanf(dispaddr,"%u:%u/%u.%u", &zone, &net, &node, &point)==4)
sprintf(dispaddr,"%u@%u.%u.%u", point, node, net, zone);
else if(sscanf(dispaddr,"%u:%u/%u", &zone, &net, &node)==3)
sprintf(dispaddr,"0@%u.%u.%u", node, net, zone);
}

before this:


mimemakeheaderline(mimefrom,1000,"From",dispname,chrs,dispaddr,cfg_noencode);

=== END

Also, comment out this line:

// strcpy(mimefrom,&mimefrom[6]);

... and you should be good to go!

Regards,
Nick

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On 2024-01-25 11:30 p.m., Accession -> Warpslide wrote:

Is this something you or Carlos would be willing to share?

Most definitely:

=== BEGIN
=== END

.. and you should be good to go!

That looks so much better, thanks again! :)

https://imgbox.com/ePxE05R9


Jay

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 01:09:02 -0500, Warpslide -> Accession wrote:

That looks so much better, thanks again!  :)

https://imgbox.com/ePxE05R9

How it's supposed to look! :)

Regards,
Nick

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