On 24 Dec 22 23:04:08 Utopian Galt wrote...

I was given the game free, and paid for the upgrades, but when I went
into my first mission I had no clue about the controlls and feel
like why did i install this.

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To which Bikerbob replies...

yeah I just intalled it this past weekend myself. I was very suprised
about how much has been added to the game.. but it is 6 .... so I guess
there are things that would have been added. I did find it a bit much
though. Or at least much when I was still in the bronze age.

James

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yeah I just intalled it this past weekend myself. I was very suprised about how much has been added to the game.. but it is 6 .... so I guess there are things that would have been added. I did find it a bit much though. Or at least much when I was still in the bronze age.

For some reason Civ 6 never grew on me as much as Civ 5. Maybe it was just the time and place I was in my life when trying to get into it, who knows. But to this day firing up Civ 5 is an absolute joy for me.

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Re: Re: civ 6
By: esc to Bikerbob on Mon Jan 02 2023 10:30 pm

For some reason Civ 6 never grew on me as much as Civ 5. Maybe it was just the time and place I was in my life when trying to get into it, who knows. But to this day firing up Civ 5 is an absolute joy for me.

Years ago I spent a lot of time playing the first Civilication and Civilization 2. Several years ago I installed Civilization 5 and played it a bit, and I like it, though I felt like I could probably spend a lot of time playing it too, so I avoided it. :P I haven't tried Civilization 6 yet.

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Years ago I spent a lot of time playing the first Civilication and Civilization 2. Several years ago I installed Civilization 5 and played

To this day I love the original Civ. I also love the original SimCity...the sequels are a mixed bag for me but the original game is endless fun for me.

Isn't the original Civ the one with the Gandhi bug?

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Re: Re: civ 6
By: esc to Nightfox on Tue Jan 03 2023 02:55 pm

To this day I love the original Civ. I also love the original SimCity...the sequels are a mixed bag for me but the original game is endless fun for me.

Civilization and SimCity are a couple games where I think the next sequel improved on the games substantially. I thought Civilization 2 was great, and SimCity 2000 was great as well, and I probably played those a lot more than the original games. However, I never really got into any of the SimCity games after SimCity 2000.

That said, I think the original Civilization game is a bit easier to play. I started playing the original Civilization in DOSBox a couple years agn and was enjoynig it. I also liked the intro it had at the beginning.

Isn't the original Civ the one with the Gandhi bug?

I'm not aware of the Gandhi bug.. What is that?

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Civilization and SimCity are a couple games where I think the next sequel improved on the games substantially. I thought Civilization 2 was
great, and SimCity 2000 was great as well, and I probably played those a lot more than the original games. However, I never really got into any
of the SimCity games after SimCity 2000.

I can't say I've ever actually played Civ 2...suppose it's high time I give that one a shot, eh? :)

SimCity 2000 introduced mechanics that changed the course of the game radically. I enjoyed the original SimCity of everything having an inherent block shape, and I never really adapted well to the concept of drawing out boundaries specifically for zones. Plus managing water used to piss me off, lol.

That said, I think the original Civilization game is a bit easier to
play. I started playing the original Civilization in DOSBox a couple years agn and was enjoynig it. I also liked the intro it had at the beginning.

I have it on a native DOS machine and it's a trip. The intro on a CRT with a legit SoundBlaster is a lot of fun :)

I'm not aware of the Gandhi bug.. What is that?

They call it "Nuclear Gandhi" - the tl;dr is that AI Gandhi's aggression level is set to the lowest possible integer value of 1. Once Gandhi's government would adopt Democracy, the aggression value would decrement by 2, leaving Gandhi at a -1 (negative one) which doesn't make sense in the game mechanics. So what would actually happen is that Gandhi would suddenly become a super aggressive warmonger. Kind of funny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Gandhi

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Re: Re: civ 6
By: esc to Nightfox on Tue Jan 03 2023 05:48 pm

I'm not aware of the Gandhi bug.. What is that?

They call it "Nuclear Gandhi" - the tl;dr is that AI Gandhi's aggression level is set to the lowest possible integer value of 1. Once Gandhi's government would adopt Democracy, the aggression value would decrement by 2, leaving Gandhi at a -1 (negative one) which doesn't make sense in the game mechanics. So what would actually happen is that Gandhi would suddenly become a super aggressive warmonger. Kind of funny.

That does sound funny. :)

Nightfox
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Re: Re: civ 6
By: esc to Nightfox on Tue Jan 03 2023 05:48 pm

They call it "Nuclear Gandhi" - the tl;dr is that AI Gandhi's aggression lev e) which doesn't make sense in the game mechanics. So what would actually ha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Gandhi

According to the link, the bug was an urban legend and was only included in future installements as an easter egg.

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According to the link, the bug was an urban legend and was only included in future installements as an easter egg.

Interesting, I could have /sworn/ this was a legit thing back in the day but who knows lol.

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On 03 Jan 23 14:55:00 esc wrote...

Years ago I spent a lot of time playing the first Civilication
and Civilization 2. Several years ago I installed Civilization
5 and played

To this day I love the original Civ. I also love the original
SimCity...the sequels are a mixed bag for me but the original game is endless fun for me.

Isn't the original Civ the one with the Gandhi bug?

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

I think it is similar to what happened to Master of Orion. The first was good.. the second, even better... and then the third... the things they
added to the game made it just more complicated. More of a "chore"...
and so it flopped.

Though I did see a newer version of it on GOG... Loved every minute of
that one. Highly recommend it.

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yes I am a real fan of Master of Orion myself, and would agree that 1 and
2 were better than anything that followed.

I spend $20 on CIV 6 - so its no massive loss if I dont play it much..
but CHORE is a good word - I do find Civ6 more of a Chore than it should
be I think.

James

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Ok... so this is the version of Master of Orion I was talking about on
GOG.....
https://www.gog.com/en/game/master_of_orion

It's newer than 3... came out in 2016... and I absolutely loved it.
It comes as a standalone for $29.99 or as a collectors edition for $49.99
that includes the original 1/2/3 and some other extras.

Of course, no one ever pays full price on GOG, right? Stick it on your wishlist and wait for it to go on sale and get it for a steal like I did.

I recommend looking at the trailers and screens... It's great.

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I was given the game free, and paid for the upgrades, but when I went into my first mission I had no clue about the controlls and feel like why did i install this.


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On 24 Dec 22 23:04:08 Utopian Galt wrote...

I was given the game free, and paid for the upgrades, but when I went
into my first mission I had no clue about the controlls and feel
like why did i install this.

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

In a couple weeks, you won't be able to step away from it. ;)

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On 24 Dec 2022, Utopian Galt said the following...

I was given the game free, and paid for the upgrades, but when I went
into my first mission I had no clue about the controlls and feel like
why did i install this.

There should be a tutorial that shows how to play it. All the CIV games have them after 2. Its really a great game once you learn it. It is lengthy to get through a full start to finish non-campaign game.

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