• Introduction

    From vaelen@21:1/141 to All on Tue Jan 23 17:58:29 2024
    Hey folks!
    My name is Andrew, but I go by vaelen in most places.
    I run a BBS called "68k Mac Club" on my 90s Mac LCIII.
    I'm from central Texas USA originally, but I've been
    in Tokyo for the past 6 years.
    Back in the 90s I ran a very small Star Trek themed
    BBS in San Antonio, TX USA and at the time I had
    Fidonet setup with the BBS dialing my parent in the
    node list every day to sync. The board I hung out
    on the most during that time was Cliffs of Insanity.
    They had 14 lines, each with a 14.4kbps modem, so
    there was a lot of multi-user chat happening there.

    Anyway, thanks for adding my BBS to the network!
    I look forward to talking to folks on here.

    My hobbies include anime, sci-fi, history,
    amateur radio, electronics, and woodworking.

    - Vaelen

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to vaelen on Tue Jan 23 07:51:32 2024
    On 23 Jan 2024, vaelen said the following...
    My hobbies include anime, sci-fi, history,
    amateur radio, electronics, and woodworking.

    - Vaelen

    Welcome! Sounds like all fun things to do!

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  • From Mike Dippel@21:4/176 to vaelen on Tue Jan 23 09:07:12 2024
    On 1/23/2024 5:58 PM, vaelen wrote to All:

    Hey folks!
    My name is Andrew, but I go by vaelen in most places.
    I run a BBS called "68k Mac Club" on my 90s Mac LCIII.
    I'm from central Texas USA originally, but I've been
    in Tokyo for the past 6 years.
    Back in the 90s I ran a very small Star Trek themed
    BBS in San Antonio, TX USA and at the time I had
    Fidonet setup with the BBS dialing my parent in the
    node list every day to sync. The board I hung out
    on the most during that time was Cliffs of Insanity.
    They had 14 lines, each with a 14.4kbps modem, so
    there was a lot of multi-user chat happening there.

    Anyway, thanks for adding my BBS to the network!
    I look forward to talking to folks on here.

    My hobbies include anime, sci-fi, history,
    amateur radio, electronics, and woodworking.

    - Vaelen

    If you have an interest in hobby-related things and are looking to add anetwork to your
    board, you might consider checking out the HobbyNet conferenes. You can find information by going to:
    https://hobbynet.hobbyline.com

    Glad to have you onboard.

    Mike Dippel

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to vaelen on Tue Jan 23 18:45:02 2024
    Hello Vaelen!

    On 23 Jan 2024, vaelen said the following...

    Hey folks!
    My name is Andrew, but I go by vaelen in most places.
    I run a BBS called "68k Mac Club" on my 90s Mac LCIII.

    Welcome to fsxNet -- I'm sure you'll find it enjoyable!

    Running your BBS on "real" hardware from back in the days is cool! I'll be building a retro PC system any year now (got lots of parts, among them many BNIB ones, although they'll probably require some recapping) which will be a lot of fun, I think. =)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Mickey@21:1/159 to vaelen on Tue Jan 23 20:01:53 2024
    On 23 Jan 2024, vaelen said the following...

    My name is Andrew, but I go by vaelen in most places.
    I run a BBS called "68k Mac Club" on my 90s Mac LCIII.
    I'm from central Texas USA originally, but I've been

    Anyway, thanks for adding my BBS to the network!
    I look forward to talking to folks on here.

    We look forward to hearing from you in this much smaller Fido/Fsx world.

    Mick

    Mick Manning
    https://centralontarioremote.com
    telnet centralontarioremote.com:2300

    ... Everyone smiles in the same language.

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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to vaelen on Wed Jan 24 11:22:05 2024
    Hi vaelen,

    My name is Andrew, but I go by vaelen in most places.
    I run a BBS called "68k Mac Club" on my 90s Mac LCIII.

    There are a growing number of BBS's running on "Retro" hardware.

    My hobbies include anime, sci-fi, history,
    amateur radio, electronics, and woodworking.

    A lot of us have intrest in those area's.

    - Vaelen

    A Babylon5 fan?


    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen

    Rocking Amiga 3000 powerd, Linux M68K.



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to vaelen on Wed Jan 24 14:46:39 2024
    On 23 Jan 2024 at 05:58p, vaelen pondered and said...

    Hey folks!
    My name is Andrew, but I go by vaelen in most places.

    Hi Andrew.

    Nice to meet you and thanks for the intro post. I hope you enjoy your BBSing experiences and the discussions in fsxNet.

    The guys here are helpful and supportive. We're all located around the globe, time travel between time zones certainly happens, some of us are in sumemr others in winter... I live in the future according to folks based in the the USA / Europe etc. but I'm still no good for future lotto numbers - sorry!

    Back in the 90s I ran a very small Star Trek themed
    BBS in San Antonio, TX USA and at the time I had
    Fidonet setup with the BBS dialing my parent in the
    node list every day to sync. The board I hung out
    on the most during that time was Cliffs of Insanity.

    I ran a Renegade BBS back in the 90s can got back into BBSing again around 2013 I think it was, set up fsxNet with the help of Todd, Dan and Deon in late 2015 and have enjoyed the camaraderie ever since of chatting with folks from all walks of life but often with quite a bit in common when it comes to overlapping hobbies and interests.

    Anyway, thanks for adding my BBS to the network!
    I look forward to talking to folks on here.

    My hobbies include anime, sci-fi, history,
    amateur radio, electronics, and woodworking.

    I'm also a HAM operator (not that active) ZL4PH and enjoy sci-fi too..

    Best, Paul aka Avon (Blake's 7 fan)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From j0HNNY a1PHA@21:4/158 to vaelen on Wed Jan 24 04:18:00 2024
    My name is Andrew, but I go by vaelen in most places.
    I run a BBS called "68k Mac Club" on my 90s Mac LCIII.

    Welcome! DEF going to check out your BBS. Cheers!


    |08.|05j|13A|08.


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  • From vaelen@21:1/141 to Mike Dippel on Wed Jan 24 18:02:02 2024
    you might consider checking out the HobbyNet conferenes.

    Thanks! I'll check those out. :)

    - Vaelen

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  • From vaelen@21:1/141 to vorlon on Wed Jan 24 18:04:38 2024
    A Babylon5 fan?

    Yeah, definitely! When I first went to get my domain name, Valen was already taken, so I ended up with Vaelen. (this was back in the 90s, and valen.com
    was a Babylon 5 fan site, I think.)

    - Vaelen

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  • From vaelen@21:1/141 to Avon on Wed Jan 24 18:09:29 2024
    I'm also a HAM operator (not that active) ZL4PH and enjoy sci-fi too..

    My callsign is JJ1OKA (US call sign NU8W). I talk to folks in NZ on FT-8 sometimes, mostly on 20 meters. My setup is fairly compact given the small
    lot sizes in Tokyo.

    I got back into the BBS scene in 2020 after lockdown. This is also when I started getting into "retro" computing, which is sadly all about the
    machines I actually used as a kid, and is kind of depressing to think
    about some times. >D It's been a great experience though, the community
    is generally very friendly and supportive.

    - Vaelen

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    * Origin: 68k Mac Club | bbs.m68k.club (21:1/141)
  • From Mike Dippel@21:4/176 to vaelen on Wed Jan 24 07:04:58 2024
    On 1/24/2024 6:01 PM, vaelen wrote to Mike Dippel:

    you might consider checking out the HobbyNet conferenes.

    Thanks! I'll check those out. :)

    - Vaelen

    Hoping to hear from you.

    Mike Dippel

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to vaelen on Wed Jan 24 09:19:03 2024
    My hobbies include anime, sci-fi, history,
    amateur radio, electronics, and woodworking.

    I am a fan of the original Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, One Step Beyond,
    and Tales of Tomorrow sci-fi shows. I also enjoy reading H P Lovecraft
    and H G Wells.



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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to vaelen on Thu Jan 25 03:49:42 2024
    On 23 Jan 2024 at 05:58p, vaelen pondered and said...

    Back in the 90s I ran a very small Star Trek themed
    BBS in San Antonio, TX USA and at the time I had
    Fidonet setup with the BBS dialing my parent in the
    node list every day to sync. The board I hung out
    on the most during that time was Cliffs of Insanity.

    Oh very cool! What was the name of your BBS?
    I ran a board in SAT for about a year, and was
    on 387 net. My node was called, "The Experimental
    BBS" and I ran Spitfire on a 486. This was '92ish.
    I thought about maybe trying to run a BBS on Unix
    on that machine, but then I moved back up north and
    stopped running a BBS entirely (by then I had more
    or less permanent access to the Internet).

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to vaelen on Thu Jan 25 11:13:12 2024
    On 24 Jan 2024 at 06:09p, vaelen pondered and said...

    My callsign is JJ1OKA (US call sign NU8W). I talk to folks in NZ on FT-8 sometimes, mostly on 20 meters. My setup is fairly compact given the
    small lot sizes in Tokyo.

    Cool, if I get set up with HF gear again we would try to arrange a sked.

    I got back into the BBS scene in 2020 after lockdown. This is also when
    I started getting into "retro" computing, which is sadly all about the machines I actually used as a kid, and is kind of depressing to think about some times. >D It's been a great experience though, the community

    It's all good, there's more folks about in the same head space than you might think. I was at a local museum the other day they have a display of computers which also include gear I used as a kid... so yep, feeling older now :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to vaelen on Tue Jan 23 18:48:01 2024
    Anyway, thanks for adding my BBS to the network!
    I look forward to talking to folks on here.

    Welcome to fsxNet, vaelon!! I'm from Texas, too - but now live in the Pacific Northwest... wish I'd of made a cool jump out of America like you!

    Welcome to the fun!



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    |08.........

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  • From vaelen@21:1/141 to tenser on Thu Jan 25 10:05:35 2024
    tenser, that was about the same time that I was running my board. I hate
    to say it, but I can't remember what I called it. I was not good at naming things, so it was probably something like Starfleet. *lol* I was running QuickBBS also on a 486 under DOS. It was the same for me re: the internet.
    I worked for an ISP starting in 1996 (while still in HS) and got an ISDN
    line to my house, which was blazing fast!

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to vaelen on Fri Jan 26 07:52:04 2024
    On 25 Jan 2024 at 10:05a, vaelen pondered and said...

    tenser, that was about the same time that I was running my board. I hate to say it, but I can't remember what I called it. I was not good at
    naming things, so it was probably something like Starfleet. *lol* I was running QuickBBS also on a 486 under DOS. It was the same for me re: the internet. I worked for an ISP starting in 1996 (while still in HS) and
    got an ISDN line to my house, which was blazing fast!

    Ha! Ok, fair enough. You don't play guitar, do you?

    There was a guy roughly my age who was big on playing
    guitar and who liked programming in Pascal who I talked
    to a few times. He also ran a board in 210 at roughly
    that time, but his name escapes me at the moment. It'd
    be wild if you were the same person!

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to vaelen on Thu Jan 25 18:09:00 2024
    Hello vaelen!

    ** On Tuesday 23.01.24 - 17:58, vaelen wrote to All:

    Back in the 90s I ran a very small Star Trek themed
    BBS in San Antonio, TX USA and at the time I had
    Fidonet setup with the BBS dialing my parent in the
    node list every day to sync.

    The history of nodelisted sysops is easy to look up:

    https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/

    Under what name did you operate?

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Ogg on Sun Jan 28 09:48:27 2024
    On 25 Jan 2024 at 06:09p, Ogg pondered and said...

    Hello vaelen!

    ** On Tuesday 23.01.24 - 17:58, vaelen wrote to All:

    Back in the 90s I ran a very small Star Trek themed
    BBS in San Antonio, TX USA and at the time I had
    Fidonet setup with the BBS dialing my parent in the
    node list every day to sync.

    The history of nodelisted sysops is easy to look up:

    https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/

    I found that frustratingly difficult to search,
    actually. It's fine if one knows a node number or
    a name, but there was no way to look at, say, a
    regional network.

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to tenser on Sat Jan 27 20:05:00 2024
    Hello tenser!

    ** On Sunday 28.01.24 - 09:48, tenser wrote to Ogg:

    ** On Tuesday 23.01.24 - 17:58, vaelen wrote to All:

    Back in the 90s I ran a very small Star Trek themed
    BBS in San Antonio, TX USA and at the time I had
    Fidonet setup with the BBS dialing my parent in the
    node list every day to sync.

    The history of nodelisted sysops is easy to look up:

    https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/

    I found that frustratingly difficult to search,
    actually. It's fine if one knows a node number or
    a name, but there was no way to look at, say, a
    regional network.

    I primarily use it using a sysop name. So, in this case, all
    vaelen has to do is enter his own name (presumably he knows the
    "real" name he used for fidonet) and the system will remind him
    what his bbs name was.


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to tenser on Sat Jan 27 20:28:00 2024
    tenser wrote to Ogg <=-

    The history of nodelisted sysops is easy to look up:

    https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/

    I found that frustratingly difficult to search,
    actually. It's fine if one knows a node number or
    a name, but there was no way to look at, say, a
    regional network.

    Archived collections of nodelists are easy to find.

    This particular collection goes back to 1984:

    https://www.kuehlbox.wtf/files/fidohist/nodelist



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  • From vaelen@21:1/141 to Ogg on Sun Jan 28 13:30:40 2024
    The history of nodelisted sysops is easy to look up
    Well, I'm not listed there, so I wonder what I was doing at the time.
    I know my board called a hub to pass mail and that I sent and received
    mail from other boards though.

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  • From vaelen@21:1/141 to tenser on Sun Jan 28 13:31:54 2024
    You don't play guitar, do you?
    No, sadly not. :) I also didn't program Pascal at the time, I was still
    really into BASIC at that point.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to vaelen on Sun Jan 28 09:36:13 2024
    The history of nodelisted sysops is easy to look up
    Well, I'm not listed there, so I wonder what I was doing at the time.
    I know my board called a hub to pass mail and that I sent and received
    mail from other boards though.

    You may have been on another network. I think you said you were running non-intel hardware, which may have limited your choices. I know the GT
    Power Network was big in Texas (over 100 nodes at one point), but that
    would have required you to be running a GT Power BBS on intel hardware.

    There was also RIME/RelayNet which required proprietary software for most
    of its early existence and (I think) that software may have been for
    intel hardware only.

    There were a few other networks around that were not FIDO and also didn't
    use FTN software.


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  • From Vorlon@21:1/196 to vaelen on Mon Jan 29 11:27:08 2024
    Hi Vaelen,

    On Wednesday January 24 2024, Vaelen said to vorlon:

    A Babylon5 fan?

    Yeah, definitely! When I first went to get my domain name, Valen was already taken, so I ended up with Vaelen. (this was back in the 90s, and valen.com was a Babylon 5 fan site, I think.)

    You need to be quick to get worthwhile domain names!

    Back in the day, the local tv station that used to broadcast B5 had it on
    after a "Live" show that always ran overtime. That was a huge pain in the
    rear end, as at that time I was a rotating shift worker. So some nights I
    had to get my father to hit the record button on the VHS. Other times I
    would get home just before it started (should have been 10:30pm) and was
    able to watch it.


    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen

    Rocking FSXnet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Tue Jan 30 07:02:48 2024
    On 27 Jan 2024 at 08:28p, Gamgee pondered and said...

    tenser wrote to Ogg <=-

    The history of nodelisted sysops is easy to look up:

    https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/

    I found that frustratingly difficult to search,
    actually. It's fine if one knows a node number or
    a name, but there was no way to look at, say, a
    regional network.

    Archived collections of nodelists are easy to find.

    This particular collection goes back to 1984:

    https://www.kuehlbox.wtf/files/fidohist/nodelist

    Ah, very cool; thanks!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to vaelen on Tue Jan 30 07:04:18 2024
    On 28 Jan 2024 at 01:31p, vaelen pondered and said...

    No, sadly not. :) I also didn't program Pascal at the time, I was still really into BASIC at that point.

    It would have been too much of a coincidence!

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  • From vaelen@21:1/141 to Vorlon on Tue Jan 30 15:21:24 2024
    Those were the days! I watched most of B5 on a tiny 15" TV in my room. I
    would sometimes forget it was on and then just miss an episode. (I can't
    even fathom that idea these days.)

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  • From massive@21:3/178 to vaelen on Wed Jan 31 10:43:19 2024
    Nice to see another SubText BBS pop up!

    Welcome to the global network.

    -andy

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  • From vaelen@21:1/141 to massive on Thu Feb 1 18:16:38 2024
    Hey massive! Good to see you here. :)

    Also, I think it's pretty funny that we're both Andrews.

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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to vaelen on Thu Feb 1 14:44:17 2024
    Re: Re: Re: Introduction
    By: vaelen to tenser on Thu Jan 25 2024 10:05 am

    I worked for an ISP starting in 1996 (while still in HS) and got an ISDN line to my house, which was blazing fast!

    I had ISDN for a whlie too (wrote software and firmware for an ISDN terminal adapter). 128Kbps baby! But charged per 64Kbps "B channel" per minute. Ouch. :-(
    --
    digital man (rob)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Digital Man on Fri Feb 2 06:35:00 2024
    Digital Man wrote to vaelen <=-

    I worked for an ISP starting in 1996 (while still in HS) and got an ISDN line to my house, which was blazing fast!

    I had ISDN for a whlie too (wrote software and firmware for an ISDN terminal adapter). 128Kbps baby! But charged per 64Kbps "B channel" per minute. Ouch.

    I had work paying for an ISDN line to my house. I would connect to a
    Shiva LANRover at work for access to my company LAN, and use it to
    connect to the internet. I don't recall if inbound calls were charged
    or if my callers had dwindled at that point that I didn't worry about
    it.

    That was the first time I downloaded fido packets via the internet, and
    it was eye-opening being able to connect multiple times a day.

    A couple of years earlier at another company, we had an Ascend Pipeline
    router in the office with a PRI circuit and BRIs out with employees.
    Had a problem with one of the sites connecting, called Pac Bell to sort
    it out and spoke to Scott Adams. He still worked for Bell while writing
    Dilbert.



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  • From Ed Vance@21:1/175 to vaelen on Tue Mar 12 19:24:59 2024
    Howdy! Valean,
    I'm W9ODR in Indiana, long ago was in US Navy and visited Tokyo once whiwe le Ship was in Yokosuka.
    Didn't go to the Ginza(?), me and a Super Chief went downtown to shop and eat.

    Other interests are photography and Bible study.

    A friend had version 6.11 CD of The Online Bible that I borrowed and there was a Mac install on it as well as DOS and Windows (pardon my language
    . . . . . . )

    I knew a person that owned an original MacIntosh PC, the AIO Model with the 3.5" floppy slot below the monitor.
    The Mac belonged to his wife but he wanted to read the Bible on her Computer.

    In the early 1990's I visited a Apple Store to see if I would be interested in buying one.
    Back then my PC was a C=64 and I was trying to decide whether to get an Apple ][ or Clone computer.

    I knew several Hams who owned a MacIntosh and while in the Apple Store (BTW the Store had a Private owner, it wasn't owned by Apple Corp.)
    I asked to try a MAC. After some minutes I asked Salesman "How do I get to BASIC on this? He told me BASIC is an Option and it costs $200.00 more than the price for the MAC.

    I thanked him and left the Store.

    Now back to my installation of the OLB on their MAC:
    From the OLB CD I had put the MAC Version on a bunch of 3.5" floppies.
    I remembered after what was on a disk finished, to remove it to insert another disk I was told to drag it onto the TRASH Icon because there wasn't a Button alongside the Drive slot.
    Because I have used a PC Clone at work, the idea of Trashing a disk seemed radical to me

    Anyhow after all of the floppies had been installed, the family could use that Program.
    At least the MAC didn't crash while my hands were on it.

    While typing this I thought of a procedure to Enlarge or Shrink the size of the characters on a monitor, which someone(s) on a BBS told me can be done by holding down a CTRL Key and moving the Scroll wheel on the Mouse back or forward.

    Will that routine do that as well on an MAC, iMAC?

    Thank You!

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