Just a few weeks until we roll back, and I'm picking many of you guys
will roll forward ;)
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Just a few weeks until we roll
back, and I'm picking many of you
guys will roll forward ;)
Just a few weeks until we roll back, and I'm picking many of you guys
will roll forward ;)
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going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz
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Just a few weeks until we roll back, and I'm picking many of you guys
will roll forward ;)
Adept wrote to Avon <=-
It'd be doubly odd for anyone having that sort of connection to the US from NZ, I'm sure.
It made absolutely no sense to change the daylight saving time period in the US - companies had started making auto-sensing clocks that switched by themselves based on the old schedule, thinking there'd be no reason to change...
Re: Re: Daylight Savings
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Adept on Wed Mar 19 2025 07:14 am
It made absolutely no sense to change the daylight saving time
period in the US - companies had started making auto-sensing
clocks that switched by themselves based on the old schedule,
thinking there'd be no reason to change...
I'd have liked to stick to the old schedule, or even better,
eliminate daylight savings time and stick to standard time so we
don't have to deal with losing an hour again. Although I like
gaining the hour back later in the year, I think it would be less
hassle to not switch at all.
Nightfox
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I think if they are going to switch, we'd be stuck in permanent Daylight Saving Time rather then the old fall timezone. There would be no fall back. This would give us the extra daylight.
But seriously, if we permanently switched to daylight saving time, I suspect there may be edge cases where there would be issues with timekeeping the year we do that, as our records would effectively have that year be 1 hour shorter than normal.. But maybe it wouldn't be a big deal.
I'd have liked to stick to the old schedule, or even better, eliminateayligh
savings time and stick to standard time so we don't have to deal with losing
hour again. Although I like gaining the hour back later in the year, I think it would be less hassle to not switch at all.
Meh, just get up earlier if you want that daylight. ;)
But seriously, if we permanently switched to daylight saving time, I suspect there may be edge cases where there would be issues with timekeeping the year we do that, as our records would effectively have that year be 1 hour shorter than normal.. But maybe it wouldn't be a big deal.
But seriously, if we permanently switched to daylight saving time, I
suspect there may be edge cases where there would be issues with
timekeeping the year we do that, as our records would effectively have that
year be 1 hour shorter than normal.. But maybe it wouldn't be a big deal.
I think the "edge cases" would have more to do with what edge of the time zone you are closest to. In my part of Kentucky, we are on the west edge
I'd have liked to stick to the old schedule, or even better, eliminate daylight savings time and stick to standard time so we don't have to
deal with losing an hour again. Although I like gaining the hour back later in the year, I think it would be less hassle to not switch at all.
But seriously, if we permanently switched to daylight saving time, I suspect there may be edge cases where there would be issues with timekeeping the year we do that, as our records would effectively have that year be 1 hour shorter than normal.. But maybe it wouldn't be a
big deal.
What I was talking about is looking through historical records, etc..
For instance, if something started happening early in the year and
lasted through the end of the year, we'd have to know that span of time would be 1 hour shorter because we stayed on daylight saving time permanently.
It made absolutely no sense to change the daylight saving time period in
the US - companies had started making auto-sensing clocks that switched
by themselves based on the old schedule, thinking there'd be no reason
to change...
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Re: Re: Daylight Savings
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Adept on Wed Mar 19 2025 07:14 am
I'd have liked to stick to the old schedule, or even better, eliminate daylight savings time and stick to standard time so we don't have to deal with losing an hour again. Although I like gaining the hour back later in the year, I think it would be less hassle to not switch at all.
Nightfox
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That is what I have always said.Speaking about animals in my last msg then reading Your next post had me think about Farmers who begin work when the Sun comes up.
I think the "edge cases" would have more to do with what edge of the time zone you are closest to. In my part of Kentucky, we are on the west edge
of Eastern. So far west, there are places due south of here that are in Central.
Staying on DST in the winter in this location would really screw things
up... people don't realize how late it would stay dark in the morning
during December/early January.
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Drive-In Movies are a thing of the past now where I live.
imeI think the "edge cases" would have more to do with what edge of the
dgezone you are closest to. In my part of Kentucky, we are on the west
What I was talking about is looking through historical records, etc.. For instance, if something started happening early in the year and lasted through the end of the year, we'd have to know that span of time would be 1 hour shorter because we stayed on daylight saving time permanently.
Speaking about animals in my last msg then reading Your next post had mehin
about Farmers who begin work when the Sun comes up.anted
While writing this reply I thought about modern Farm equipment having Headlights and all the comfort of home (Heat, A/C, Radio etc.) .
Farmers with that newer gear could start farming way B4 Sunrise if they
to.
Hi Ed,
In a message to Nightfox you wrote:
We had one left in this area, it made it until last year when they
decided to shut down. Pretty sure developers bought the land.
Shawn
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anted
I think that many of them do get started before the Sun is completely up.
I have friends that have a beef cattle farm, and also used to raise hogs.
I can remember being up with them before Sunrise/after Sunset, tending to things in the farrowing house or shop.
The idea that farmers pushed for DST is mostly a myth. IIRC, farmers in Indiana were not all that thrilled once Indiana started observing DST statewide. Ironically, Indiana is supposedly one of the states that wants
to go back to standard time year around. Guess they finally figured out
they had it right to begin with.
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Ed Vance wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Your msg had Me thinking if there is a Time Standard(NIST) in the USA,
why don't newer products that have a digital clock in them not include
the option for the clock to be changed periodically (for areas that observe Daylight Savings Time) if the user needs to.
Some did, then Bush (43) changed the time period for DST, which made
all of those auto-switching products change the time on the wrong
weekend.
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By what I can figure out, our Earth orbits around the Sun in 365.26 Days. When I attended Elementary School I was told Spring always starts on March 21 each year.ould
Now Spring begins on March 20.
Makes Me wonder because Earth's orbit has an extra 1/4th Day how long it
take when Spring begins on March 19?
Spring is a point in the Orbit that doesn't change, but the Calendar changes.
When thinking about Leap Year adding a Day every 4th Year caused Me to think that Clock Time gets adjusted periodically when a Leap Second occurs.
It made absolutely no sense to change the daylight saving time period in the US - companies had started making auto-sensing clocks that switched
by themselves based on the old schedule, thinking there'd be no reason
to change...
When I was a kid there was no daylight saving changes in timezones in my country and it was so much better balanced than now!
I hope one day we'll reverse this madness.
ould
They taught us that it was always the 21st, too, but even back then I know sometimes it seemed like a season would start a day early. We had a leap year last year so I wonder if that has something to do with it.
They do also adjust the "official" clocks every now and then to add leap seconds. I have not heard about that in a long time but I know they used
to sometimes mention it on the national news.
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Drive-In Movie was.
Both of them are gone now.
Ed
The two drive in movies by me were turned into Home Depots about 30 years ago.
We had a pop up one down by the beach back in the mid 2000s which was cool but with everyone having larger cars and trucks, it was hard to see the screen from a regular sedan.
It was nice to see drive ins making a short come back during covid. It 's sort of a shame they all seemed to have gone away again though.
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Your msg had Me thinking if there is a Time Standard(NIST) in the USA,
why don't newer products that have a digital clock in them not include
the option for the clock to be changed periodically (for areas that observe Daylight Savings Time) if the user needs to.
I have 8 clocks in my house, 1 in the auto and a wrist watch that gets changed twice a year due to my living in a area that observes DST.
Ed
Just a few weeks until we roll back, and I'm picking many of you guys will roll forward ;)
As always, I'm thankful when you southerners return the daylight you've been hogging for the past few months.
It'd be doubly odd for anyone having that sort of connection to the US from NZ, I'm sure.
Ha! We'll it's certainly disappearing quickly now... by 8pm it's dark
and in 1-2 weeks we'll drop back to normal (non-daylight savings)
time and it will be dark by 7pm :(
Radiomen in the Radio Room would call Main Comm on the intercom to get a DTG (Date - Time - Group) when a new message was going to be sent out, and Main Comm would look at the GMT Clock and issue the time for the message
Later it was noticed that there was a message that was sent from the Ship with
a Duplicate Time.
By what I can figure out, our Earth orbits around the Sun in 365.26 Days. When I attended Elementary School I was told Spring always starts on
March 21 each year.
Now Spring begins on March 20.
Makes Me wonder because Earth's orbit has an extra 1/4th Day how long it would take when Spring begins on March 19?
Because there are zillions of different daylight savings zones around the world and politicians are constantly meddling with them, so if you want to make one model of clock and sell it everywhere the best option is just to leave it up to the end user.
I doubt people could handle entering the daylight savings schedule into their clocks, the amount of people who can't even set the time on the simplest of devices should be testament enough.
Plus the rules of daylight savings are really stupid, like back one hour at two o'clock on the first Monday of April and forward one hour at three o'clock on the last Sunday of October* type nonsense. No fixed dates and ridiculous times rather than midnight like any normal person would expect.
The whole idea is just pure evil and should be flushed away with a bowlful of holy water.
*Yes, I know this is wrong. It's meant to be an example.
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LOL, I wondered how they were going to notice. ;)
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Evidently it'll happen in 2028. If you're in Chicago, but not if you're in Germany.
That said, this is the reason for having a leap day, and for eventually skipping leap day in the divisible-by-100 year, but not the divisible-by-400 year.
But, e.g., Chicago has these times, for Spring equinoxes:
2025 - 3/20 04:01
2026 - 3/20 09:45
2027 - 3/20 15:24
2028 - 3/19 21:17
2029 - 3/20 03:01
2030 - 3/20 08:51
2031 - 3/20 14:40
2032 - 3/19 20:21
Had we skipped leap day in 2000, it'd still mostly be on the 21st, with going to the 20th every 4 years.
But we creep forward about an hour on the calendar every 4 years, with the leap day included.
Thus why it takes about 24 of those cycles for it to be reasonable to skip a leap day. That's not quite 25 (and thus a century), and I'm guessing it's probably actually about 22 cycles. That said, that's just me going backwards on the math and assuming the people who made the calendar had the right ideas, for why we have leap days when we do.
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steviant wrote to Ed Vance <=-
Because there are zillions of different daylight savings zones around
the world and politicians are constantly meddling with them, so if you want to make one model of clock and sell it everywhere the best option
is just to leave it up to the end user.
I doubt people could handle entering the daylight savings schedule into their clocks, the amount of people who can't even set the time on the simplest of devices should be testament enough.
I hope one day we'll reverse this madness.
+1. With our luck over here, they will reverse it in the wrong direction.
Yeah, I don't look forward to reverting from DST - dark in the mornings and dark in the late afternoons, cold, and just not nice...
Don't know where you live but here it is going to be that way during the time we are not on DST whether we revert or not. It is what happens naturally during the the time between the equinoxes and Winter Solstace. Setting the clock forward or back and hour doesn't make nature change
what it does. ;)
Also, I live in the country side - Victoria's east, in Australia, on a mountain behind the quaint little township of Yarragon. Been here almost 2 years and loving it!.
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