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There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips
from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in
terms of what he speaks about.

I love his "what makes this song great" series. Dissecting a song
instrument by instrument really makes the musicianship show through.




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On 16 May 2023 at 06:44a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

I love his "what makes this song great" series. Dissecting a song instrument by instrument really makes the musicianship show through.

I have enjoyed those also, gee there's a few of us here watching him. I wonder what other channels we like?

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There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in terms of what he speaks about.

He put up a clip with some comments about AI and the impact on musicians etc. that I thought was good.

Would recommend it as a watch. https://youtu.be/-eAQOhDNLt4

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There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in terms of what he speaks about.

Oh Yea Rick Beato is fantastic! I've watched tons of his guitar videos.
Cool that you follow him.

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There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in terms of what he speaks about.

I also like Rick's content. I love his "what makes this song great" series. He's a producer but in actuality is a phenomenal musician in his own right...the way he understands music and can break it down is a sight to behold.

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On 14 May 2023 at 01:16a, esc pondered and said...

I also like Rick's content. I love his "what makes this song great" series. He's a producer but in actuality is a phenomenal musician in his own right...the way he understands music and can break it down is a
sight to behold.

I need to watch some of those :)

My viewing is a bit eclectic and I don't follow all of his stuff but whenever I do dip my toe in the pond I like what I find :)

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On 13 May 2023 at 09:16p, Hawk pondered and said...

Oh Yea Rick Beato is fantastic! I've watched tons of his guitar videos.
Cool that you follow him.

Any others you'd recommend Hawk? :)

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Hello Avon!

** On Sunday 14.05.23 - 12:44, Avon wrote to All:

There's this chap Rick Beato that I watch some of his YouTube clips from time to time. I enjoy them and find him a thoughtful fellow in terms of what he speaks about.

He put up a clip with some comments about AI and the impact on musicians etc. that I thought was good.

Would recommend it as a watch. https://youtu.be/-eAQOhDNLt4

For now, "sound a-likes" get away with capitalizing on
mimicking if the material is presented as a parody. Dunno if
labeling something as "Fake AI [insert artist's name] will be
enough to qualify as "parody".

If/when the law steps up and recognizes that we own the sound
of our voices, then this Fake Drake/Cobain stuff for the
purposes of profit will be muted.

Rick Beato thinks that listeners won't care, and compared the
trend to tape machines being replaced by digital recorders, and
speaker/amps replaced by a simple laptop - but that's
different. That gear is simply the medium that delivers the
music material. But creating SOURCE material that intentially
capitalizes on an existing artists "sound" and style for the
purposes of profit, without the original person's permission,
should be prohibited. People SHOULD care.

Beato makes a brief comment on someone's creation of an
artifical female singer's voice and that creator's stipulation
that the voice is free to use by anyone as long as the creator
gets 50% of the income.

Maybe this is just an exploratory fad. If the fake or AI
material is labeled as such, maybe the public will grow tired
of it after a while and yearn for real music and real artists.



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Hey! I watched this guy before. He has some good theory videos that I like. 12Tone mentions him a few times as well. (Personally like 12Tone over Beato, but they're both good.)

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On 14 May 2023 at 08:21a, Ogg pondered and said...

Rick Beato thinks that listeners won't care, and compared the
trend to tape machines being replaced by digital recorders, and speaker/amps replaced by a simple laptop - but that's
different. That gear is simply the medium that delivers the
music material. But creating SOURCE material that intentially capitalizes on an existing artists "sound" and style for the
purposes of profit, without the original person's permission,
should be prohibited. People SHOULD care.

good points and ones that I agree with.

Beato makes a brief comment on someone's creation of an
artifical female singer's voice and that creator's stipulation
that the voice is free to use by anyone as long as the creator
gets 50% of the income.

the trick becomes how does the artist even know their likeness (in sound terms) is being used?

Maybe this is just an exploratory fad. If the fake or AI
material is labeled as such, maybe the public will grow tired
of it after a while and yearn for real music and real artists.

If what it sounds like sounds artificial then perhaps yes, but the alarm bells for all is that this stuff sounds very close to the original artist..

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Hello Avon!

Beato makes a brief comment on someone's creation of an
artifical female singer's voice and that creator's stipulation
that the voice is free to use by anyone as long as the creator
gets 50% of the income.

the trick becomes how does the artist even know their
likeness (in sound terms) is being used?

Yes.. that is tricky. Perhaps the voice could be used by
cooperations in commercials or new songs ..in which case, then
the awareness of it would eventually spread and reach the
"owner's" ears. Even if it were used in new songs and labelled
as an AI-voice, then that would be the invitational vector to
begin investigations. Dishonest and unscrupulous people might
be able to get away with commandeering an AI-voice for their
own uses, but if the matter reaches litigation, they could be
faced with damages retroactively.

Maybe this is just an exploratory fad. If the fake or AI
material is labeled as such, maybe the public will grow
tired of it after a while and yearn for real music and
real artists.

If what it sounds like sounds artificial then perhaps yes,
but the alarm bells for all is that this stuff sounds very
close to the original artist..

Ah... if it is very close to the original artist, then that
voice and the material will not be able to hide. The original
artist's name will be essential on the artificial product for
successful promotion. And if that name is part of the product,
the original artist will eventually find out - and litigations
will ensue. Existing laws already exist that other people
can't arbitarily use anyone else's name on their product
without permission. Even using "Fake Drake" or "Drake-AI" tied
to the audio item is swimming in dangerous waters.

We have rights to our likeness, and that includes what we look
like and sound like.

When the self-title album KLAATU first came out, the talk was
that it was a Beatles come-back. The band intentionally
avoided the press and public performances for a long time.
"The band elected to include no photos, no individual musician
credits, and no biographical information in the album package"

The Beatles sound-alike was not intentional, but the Beatles
masquerade was started by a journalist in the UK and "not
denied" by the record company in the US.


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