• FIDONET NETMAIL, CRASH, ROUTED OR DIRECT?

    From ogg@21:2/147 to All on Sat Oct 1 10:54:06 2022
    Been 3 months working on getting my board connected to fidonet. Latest issue is my hub has asked for me to use "routed" or "direct" depending on the netmail. In setting up my node details, there is only "normal", "crash" or "direct." Can someone explain the differences and how I would comply with the "routed" selection?

    ogg
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  • From Al@21:4/106 to ogg on Sat Oct 1 09:49:36 2022
    Been 3 months working on getting my board connected to fidonet. Latest issue i >my hub has asked for me to use "routed" or "direct" depending on the netmail. >In setting up my node details, there is only "normal", "crash" or "direct." Ca
    someone explain the differences and how I would comply with the "routed" selection?

    I'm not sure what your hub is asking you.

    A normal netmail may be routed via one of your links toward it's destination. It might also go direct if you are linked with the destination node.

    A direct netmail will not be routed, it will be sent directly.

    A crash netmail will be sent directly, now.

    We used to have schedules where normail, direct and crash were more meaningful than they are today.

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Al on Sat Oct 1 12:02:23 2022
    On 01 Oct 2022, Al said the following...

    Been 3 months working on getting my board connected to fidonet. Latest iss
    my hub has asked for me to use "routed" or "direct" depending on the netm
    In setting up my node details, there is only "normal", "crash" or "direct.
    someone explain the differences and how I would comply with the "routed" selection?

    I'm not sure what your hub is asking you.

    A normal netmail may be routed via one of your links toward it's destination. It might also go direct if you are linked with the destination node.

    A direct netmail will not be routed, it will be sent directly.

    A crash netmail will be sent directly, now.

    We used to have schedules where normail, direct and crash were more meaningful than they are today.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

    Thanks!

    As I understand it, using crash, it's the hub that is supposed to
    route it on. I would guess that's the "routed" he is asking for. I'll use that and see what happens.

    ogg
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  • From Charles Blackburn@21:1/221 to Al on Sat Oct 1 14:58:09 2022
    Re: FIDONET NETMAIL, CRASH, ROUTED OR DIRECT?
    By: Al to ogg on Sat Oct 01 2022 09:49:36

    Been 3 months working on getting my board connected to fidonet. Latest issue i >my hub has asked for me to use "routed"
    "direct" depending on the netmail. >In setting up my node details, there is only "normal", "crash" or "direct." Ca
    someone explain the differences and how I would comply with the "routed" selection?

    <CUT>

    A direct netmail will not be routed, it will be sent directly.
    A crash netmail will be sent directly, now.

    so i have a question then. if there is a node that is "unpublished" or doesnt have a connection information in the nodelist,
    how does the mailer know where to connect? I assume in this case it would just go to the hub ?

    regards
    ===

    Charles Blackburn
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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 1 14:50:54 2022
    A direct netmail will not be routed, it will be sent directly.
    A crash netmail will be sent directly, now.

    so i have a question then. if there is a node that is "unpublished" or doesnt have a connection information in the nodelist,
    how does the mailer know where to connect? I assume in this case it would just go to the hub ?

    That can be the case for PVT nodes and also points. That is the main reason why PVT nodes are frowned upon, there is no way to contact them directly.

    In the case of points you can send it directly to the boss or route it and in the case of a PVT node your only choice is to route it and hope it makes the trip.

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  • From sPINOZa@21:1/116 to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 2 11:35:07 2022
    Re: FIDONET NETMAIL, CRASH, ROUTED OR DIRECT?
    so i have a question then. if there is a node that is "unpublished" or doesnt have a connection information in the nodelist,
    how does the mailer know where to connect? I assume in this case it
    would just go to the hub ?

    My node is listed as PVT, so give it a try and send me a netmail.
    You could also try a point that is locally active here, add .1 for that
    system.

    Gtx!

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  • From Charles Blackburn@21:1/221 to Al on Sun Oct 2 08:33:11 2022
    Re: FIDONET NETMAIL, CRASH, ROUTED OR DIRECT?
    By: Al to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 01 2022 14:50:54

    so i have a question then. if there is a node that is "unpublished" or doesnt have a connection information in the
    nodelist, how does the mailer know where to connect? I assume in this case it would just go to the hub ?

    That can be the case for PVT nodes and also points. That is the main reason why PVT nodes are frowned upon, there is no way
    to contact them directly.

    yea that was what i was thinking, i figured it would be a fire and forget to their hub.

    In the case of points you can send it directly to the boss or route it and in the case of a PVT node your only choice is to
    route it and hope it makes the trip.
    yea a point i get route it to their hub/feed.

    regards
    ===

    Charles Blackburn
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