• Areafix has stopped working

    From Dumas Walker@dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-dil-this to Digital Man on Sun May 3 22:24:16 2020
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    To: Digital Man
    P.S. Forgot to mention, we are able to exchange netmail otherwise. He receives netmail written by me, and I him.

    Also, in case you are curious, here is what his sbbsecho.ini entry looks like. His password is only 7 characters long, if that matters?:

    [node:1:2320/200@fidonet]
    Name = Christopher Hall
    Comment =
    Archive = ZIP
    PacketType = 2+
    PacketPwd =
    AreaFix = true
    AreaFixPwd = passwrd
    SessionPwd = passwrd
    TicFilePwd =
    Inbox =
    Outbox =
    Passive = false
    Direct = false
    Notify = false
    Keys = FIDO
    Status = Normal
    GroupHub =
    BinkpHost = slasho.me
    BinkpPort = 24554
    BinkpPoll = true
    BinkpPlainAuthOnly = false
    BinkpAllowPlainAuth = true
    BinkpAllowPlainText = true
    BinkpTLS = false
    BinkpSourceAddress =

    He is running Mystic but I don't think that should be an issue since the netmails are getting through.

    Thanks!

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  • From Dumas Walker@dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-dil-this to Digital Man on Sun May 3 22:17:31 2020
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    To: Digital Man
    I am not sure when it started, but Areafix has not been working properly with the 3.18 version of Synchronet I pulled down & compiled last week or again today.

    I have a node that is trying to get a listing of the echos available to him. Instead the messages are being routed to me. I thought that should only
    happen if the requester goofed but, having received the netmails I see no issues with them. They are formatted as follows:

    From: Christopher Hall (1:2320/200)
    To: AreaFix@1:2320/105
    Subject: correct-password-here
    Body:
    %LIST

    The password matches exactly what is in sbbsecho.ini for that node. I have also since tried sending netmail to both 'AreaFix' and 'areafix' from my MagickaBBS and am also not getting any responses (meanwhile, both were routed to my user on the synchronet bbs).

    I also could not get a response to a message sent to Filefix but, as that is new and not documented yet (last I looked!), I suspect I am missing something somewhere.

    Thanks!

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  • From Rampage@rampage@SESTAR.remove-v30-this to Dumas Walker on Mon May 4 03:36:15 2020
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    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Sun May 03 2020 15:17:31


    I have a node that is trying to get a listing of the echos available
    to him. Instead the messages are being routed to me. I thought that should only happen if the requester goofed but, having received the netmails I see no issues with them. They are formatted as follows:

    this sounds like you have listed areafix as an alias to your account...

    run echocfg and see what you have in the Netmail Settings->Sysop Aliases field... if you have areafix, filefix or similar in there, remove them...

    mine has only SYSOP and one other alias that i use for special purposes unrelated to FNT operations...


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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-3kc-this to Dumas Walker on Mon May 4 03:23:08 2020
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    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Sun May 03 2020 03:17 pm

    I am not sure when it started, but Areafix has not been working properly with the 3.18 version of Synchronet I pulled down & compiled last week or again today.

    I have a node that is trying to get a listing of the echos available to him. Instead the messages are being routed to me. I thought that should only happen if the requester goofed but, having received the netmails I see no issues with them. They are formatted as follows:

    From: Christopher Hall (1:2320/200)
    To: AreaFix@1:2320/105
    Subject: correct-password-here
    Body:
    %LIST

    The password matches exactly what is in sbbsecho.ini for that node. I have also since tried sending netmail to both 'AreaFix' and 'areafix' from my MagickaBBS and am also not getting any responses (meanwhile, both were routed to my user on the synchronet bbs).

    If you could dump the message header using "smbutil v" or something similar and paste that here, that could be very helpful.

    digital man

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  • From Dumas Walker@dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-3yy-this to Rampage on Mon May 4 17:39:20 2020
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    To: Rampage
    Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Sun May 03 2020 15:17:31


    I have a node that is trying to get a listing of the echos available
    to him. Instead the messages are being routed to me. I thought that should only happen if the requester goofed but, having received the netmails I see no issues with them. They are formatted as follows:

    this sounds like you have listed areafix as an alias to your account...

    run echocfg and see what you have in the Netmail Settings->Sysop Aliases field... if you have areafix, filefix or similar in there, remove them...

    mine has only SYSOP and one other alias that i use for special purposes unrelated to FNT operations...

    Mine only has SYSOP and an intentional typo that needs to be routed to me. :)

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  • From Dumas Walker@dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-3yy-this to Digital Man on Mon May 4 17:44:31 2020
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    To: Digital Man
    If you could dump the message header using "smbutil v" or something similar and paste that here, that could be very helpful.


    I actually figured out the problem! I keep all of the *.NA files that are set up in sbbsecho.ini in a directory to themselves. The ones for the "othernets" were still there but somehow the BACKBONE.NA file for FIDO had gone missing. So, I guess when an NA file is missing, this is what sbbsecho does. I
    replaced the missing file, and sbbsecho started generating the responses for
    my other Zone 1 system.

    I have asked the other sysop to try again.

    I was mistaken about it not generating for another Zone... for some reason, it just took it longer to process than I expected. I could not just crash the system, wait for the FIDOIN/OUT tasks to run, and then crash again. But it
    was generated so all is good!

    Sorry for the false alarm!

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  • From Rampage@rampage@SESTAR.remove-8s5-this to Dumas Walker on Mon May 4 20:59:49 2020
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    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Mon May 04 2020 10:44:31


    I actually figured out the problem! I keep all of the *.NA files
    that are set up in sbbsecho.ini in a directory to themselves. The
    ones for the "othernets" were still there but somehow the
    BACKBONE.NA file for FIDO had gone missing.

    is this the fix for what i was attempting to help you with? if so, glad you found it... but still check for those attr lines in the [robot:blah] section(s) of your sbbsecho.ini file and fix them if they are missing...


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  • From Rampage@rampage@SESTAR.remove-8s5-this to Dumas Walker on Mon May 4 20:57:28 2020
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    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Rampage on Mon May 04 2020 10:39:20


    Mine only has SYSOP and an intentional typo that needs to be routed
    to me. :)

    manually check your sbbsecho.ini file and ensure that any new [robot:blah] entries have a line

    attr = 0x0020

    it was discovered that this could go missing... if it is missing, add it to all [robot:blah] sections and ensure that you update to the latest .js and binaries...

    but that's only for tickfix stuffings... it should not affect areafix if that's messing up, too...


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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-1q7-this to Dumas Walker on Tue May 5 01:34:35 2020
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    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Mon May 04 2020 10:44 am

    If you could dump the message header using "smbutil v" or something similar and paste that here, that could be very helpful.


    I actually figured out the problem! I keep all of the *.NA files that are set up in sbbsecho.ini in a directory to themselves. The ones for the "othernets" were still there but somehow the BACKBONE.NA file for FIDO had gone missing. So, I guess when an NA file is missing, this is what sbbsecho does. I
    replaced the missing file, and sbbsecho started generating the responses for my other Zone 1 system.

    That seems to me to be very unlikely to be the cause.

    digital man

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  • From Ragnarok@ragnarok@DOCKSUD.remove-ehf-this to Rampage on Tue May 5 04:10:57 2020
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    To: Rampage
    El 4/5/20 a las 14:57, Rampage escribió:
    Re: Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Rampage on Mon May 04 2020 10:39:20


    Mine only has SYSOP and an intentional typo that needs to be routed
    to me. :)

    manually check your sbbsecho.ini file and ensure that any new [robot:blah] entries have a line

    attr = 0x0020

    it was discovered that this could go missing... if it is missing, add it to all [robot:blah] sections and ensure that you update to the latest .js and binaries...

    DigitalMan was fixed sbbsecho for that issue

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-c1-this to Ragnarok on Tue May 5 03:16:40 2020
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    To: Ragnarok
    Re: Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Ragnarok to Rampage on Mon May 04 2020 09:10 pm

    attr = 0x0020

    it was discovered that this could go missing... if it is missing, add it to all [robot:blah] sections and ensure that you update to the latest .js and binaries...

    DigitalMan was fixed sbbsecho for that issue

    It was actually echocfg that had the bug, but yeah. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-bjf-this to Dumas Walker on Wed May 6 01:54:00 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    To: Dumas Walker
    On 05-04-20 10:39, Dumas Walker wrote to Rampage <=-

    mine has only SYSOP and one other alias that i use for special purposes unrelated to FNT operations...

    Mine only has SYSOP and an intentional typo that needs to be routed to
    me. :)

    I had to add an alias for a mispelling of my name, so I could receive a netmail intended for me.


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  • From Rampage@rampage@SESTAR.remove-f20-this to Ragnarok on Tue May 5 14:51:50 2020
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    To: Ragnarok
    Re: Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Ragnarok to Rampage on Mon May 04 2020 21:10:57


    Rampage>> manually check your sbbsecho.ini file and ensure that any new
    Rampage>> [robot:blah] entries have a line

    Rampage>> attr = 0x0020

    Rampage>> it was discovered that this could go missing... if it is
    Rampage>> missing, add it to all [robot:blah] sections and ensure that
    Rampage>> you update to the latest .js and binaries...

    Ragnarok> DigitalMan was fixed sbbsecho for that issue

    exactly why i was telling Dumas Walker about it... not everyone monitors the cvs log page, irc, or the message area where the cvs commits are posted ;)


    BTW: did you see my posting yesterday morning to you in IRC? it was about your hatchit and tickit problem with the hatched files being sent back to your system's inbound from its outbound??

    ----->8 snip 8<-----
    [20200504 0526-0400] <rampage> ragnarok: is this circular connection
    happening only when you hatch a file?

    [20200504 0530-0400] <rampage> ragnarok: i think i see the problem...
    when you hatch a file, you are the
    uplink... when tickit processes the
    file, it does not see your address in
    the links line so it tries to send the
    file to yourself...

    [20200504 0530-0400] <rampage> ragnarok: there are at least two solutions
    i can think of... one is to add your
    address to your links line... the second
    is that tickit should maybe check to see
    if you are the sending system...

    [20200504 0531-0400] <rampage> ragnarok: one of these should fix the
    problem but not totally sure
    ----->8 snip 8<-----



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  • From Dumas Walker@dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-ut-this to Rampage on Tue May 5 13:53:34 2020
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    To: Rampage
    Re: Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Rampage on Mon May 04 2020 10:39:20


    Mine only has SYSOP and an intentional typo that needs to be routed
    to me. :)

    manually check your sbbsecho.ini file and ensure that any new [robot:blah] entries have a line

    attr = 0x0020

    it was discovered that this could go missing... if it is missing, add it to all [robot:blah] sections and ensure that you update to the latest .js and binaries...

    but that's only for tickfix stuffings... it should not affect areafix if that's messing up, too...


    That is in there. file/tickfix was not working initially because I miseed the jsexec install step. Figured that out reading the code.

    The system is still not responding to filefix netmails, though, so something else is amiss. I pulled the latest version of tickfix.js about 12 hours ago (~2200 GMT).

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  • From Dumas Walker@dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-ut-this to Digital Man on Tue May 5 14:02:58 2020
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    To: Digital Man
    I actually figured out the problem! I keep all of the *.NA files that are set up in sbbsecho.ini in a directory to themselves. The ones for the "othernets" were still there but somehow the BACKBONE.NA file for FIDO had gone missing. So, I guess when an NA file is missing, this is what sbbsecho does. I
    replaced the missing file, and sbbsecho started generating the responses for my other Zone 1 system.

    That seems to me to be very unlikely to be the cause.


    I was afraid of that, but areafix is working now that the NA file is back in place. I have received consistent responses from it, and the other sysop has reported that they are now getting responses, too.

    Filefix, OTOH, is still not responding. I read the code and realized I needed to run the jsexec install for it. Did that. Robots entry is now in the sbbsecho.ini file (the only robots entry), and the event is active but it is still not doing anything (aside from exiting with 0) when the event does run.
    I have sent netmails both to FileFix and TickFix. All are routed to my
    account when they arrive.

    Are there any changes required to the tickit.ini file? Is the TO case sensitive? I am using my areafix password... is that right?

    Thanks!
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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-und-this to Dumas Walker on Tue May 5 19:09:51 2020
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    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Rampage on Tue May 05 2020 06:53 am

    The system is still not responding to filefix netmails, though, so something else is amiss. I pulled the latest version of tickfix.js about 12 hours ago (~2200 GMT).

    An 'smbutil v' dump of the message headers of the problem request netmails (in your data/mail base) would be helpful in debugging the issue.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-wgq-this to Dumas Walker on Tue May 5 19:13:23 2020
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    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: Re: Areafix has stopped working
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 05 2020 07:02 am

    I actually figured out the problem! I keep all of the *.NA files that are set up in sbbsecho.ini in a directory to themselves. The ones for the "othernets" were still there but somehow the BACKBONE.NA file for FIDO had gone missing. So, I guess when an NA file is missing, this is what sbbsecho does. I
    replaced the missing file, and sbbsecho started generating the responses for my other Zone 1 system.

    That seems to me to be very unlikely to be the cause.


    I was afraid of that, but areafix is working now that the NA file is back in place. I have received consistent responses from it, and the other sysop has reported that they are now getting responses, too.

    Filefix, OTOH, is still not responding. I read the code and realized I needed to run the jsexec install for it. Did that. Robots entry is now in the sbbsecho.ini file (the only robots entry), and the event is active but it is still not doing anything (aside from exiting with 0) when the event does run.
    I have sent netmails both to FileFix and TickFix. All are routed to my account when they arrive.

    Netmail should not be sent to 'tickfix'. If you netmail sent to the robot name (e.g. "filefix") are going to "your account", that sounds like you're not running SBBSecho v3.11.

    Are there any changes required to the tickit.ini file?

    No.

    Is the TO cas sensitive?

    No.

    I am using my areafix password... is that right?

    Yes.

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-ryf-this to Digital Man on Thu May 7 00:11:00 2020
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    To: Digital Man
    On 05-05-20 12:13, Digital Man wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Netmail should not be sent to 'tickfix'. If you netmail sent to the
    robot name (e.g. "filefix") are going to "your account", that sounds
    like you're not running SBBSecho v3.11.

    Interestingly, someone sent a netmail to tickfix on my system recently. :/ Odd, because my Synchronet system is not a FTN hub, it's a QWK hub and a FTN leaf node.


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  • From Dumas Walker@dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-qn8-this to Dumas Walker on Thu May 7 01:09:09 2020
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    To: Dumas Walker
    Nevermind... I just checked on the other system and it did respond to the most-recent attempt! Thanks!


    Netmail should not be sent to 'tickfix'. If you netmail sent to the
    robot
    name (e.g. "filefix") are going to "your account", that sounds like you're not running SBBSecho v3.11.


    sbbsecho.c:
    /* Synchronet FidoNet EchoMail Scanning/Tossing and NetMail Tossing Utility */

    /* $Id: sbbsecho.c,v 3.172 2020/05/02 23:04:49 rswindell Exp $ */

    tickfix.js:
    // $Id: tickfix.js,v 1.7 2020/05/03 20:00:45 rswindell Exp $

    sbbsecho.ini:
    [robot:filefix]
    SemFile=../data/tickfix.now
    attr=0x0020

    Msg Header:
    unfortunately I am not literate on how to find that. I thought it showed
    up
    in the web interface somewhere, but it does not.

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