Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote toEchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=-
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
I get delayed reactions on my OpenSpot when using the echo function with a w TL>signal into it. Haven't tried on D-STAR.
Fair enough. I just like to do as little as needed. :)
Yeah, has come in handy for that, though I often prefer to use the phone, TL>because it's more portable, even if running off wifi. I have my own proxy I TL>can use for wifi, and use anyway on 3/4G, because the phone gets a private I
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
On Jul 28, 2017, at 18:55, Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] <Ec=hoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
=20ection does work, but doesn't see a lot of activity. I'm up for an IRLP cha=
Hi Andy.
=20
Since Echolink isn't working, I have it currently disabled. Our IRLP conn=
=20go).
Answers to your questions:
Embedded Node ( not a Pi, purchased from Dave Cameron a number of years a=
=20n't recall the details and I can't find the post again. Any thoughts?
Portforwarded (all port tests pass, including the Echolink UDP ports).
=20
Not sure of the OS=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ll let you know.
=20
Through a router, but nothing else connected.
=20
I saw a note about possible conflicts between 2 software mixers, but I do=
=20e things.
Thanks.
Don
=20
Sent from my Windows 10 phone
=20
From: Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:41 AM
To: EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
=20
=20=20=20
Don & Tony,
=20
I am have only had a Debian node less than 3 years, but I noticed a coupl=
=20a week?
1. Don's tbd.conf is version 1.8 and mine is v.1.10.
I have tbd v. 1.09 so this may mean Don has an older tbd version.
Tony, does this have any bearing?
=20
2. Don (K7LWH) is not showing up in the Echolink Current Logins page: http://www.echolink.org/logins.jsp
But IRLP node 3978 IS on the IRLP Status page.
Don, are you able to connect on IRLP, I notice the node has been IDLE for=
=20iculars of Don's setup.
I have been reading the mail a little but, but am not sure about the part=
=20ter or smartphone at the site running Echolink?
What kind of node is it? PC, Pi or Embedded?
=20
What OS, CentOS or Debian?
=20
Is the node on the Internet or connected through a router?
=20
If connected through a router, is there any chance there is another compu=
=20rding?
If connected through a router is the node in the DMZ, or using Port-Forwa=
=20l stop here.
The answer to the above questions determine what else I would ask, so I'l=
=20e 1:00 PM your time.=20
Don, I am 9 hours ahead of you, but would be up for an IRLP connect befor=
I believe Tony is 7 hours ahead of me so discussing this in real time is =difficult.
=20f-list.
This could go back and forth quite a bit so we should probably take it of=
=20@yahoogroups.com>
-Andy, PA/KB7B
IRLP: 7583
EchoIRLP: KB7B-L
Allstar: 42432
=20
From: "'Tony Langdon' echoirlp@freeway.apana.org.au [EchoIRLP]" <EchoIRLP=
To: DonSaylerdon.sayler@gma=20:(
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
=20
=20=20=20
-=3D> Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote to EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=3D-
=20
Do you mean echo_environment?=20
Here's that one...
Yep that's the one. I can't see anything obvious off the top of my head. =
Looks OK, maybe some other eagle eyed person might spot something. :).au
=20
.... And now for something you'll really like! -Rocky
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=20
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=20
=20
[EchoIRLP]<br>Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:41 AM<br>
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
It usually lasts about 5 to 10 seconds...whether with the USB Webcam
or Headset Mic. But, if I use the internal soundcard, the delay is
gone. However, with that, I can't get any audio on any internet media files, such as YouTube Videos.
I think the smartphone app has its own proxy server connection. Normally, on the desktop, I have the direct internet connection.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
It usually lasts about 5 to 10 seconds...whether with the USB Webcam
or Headset Mic. But, if I use the internal soundcard, the delay is
gone. However, with that, I can't get any audio on any internet media files, such as YouTube Videos.
I think the smartphone app has its own proxy server connection. Normally, on the desktop, I have the direct internet connection.
Don,r
OK thanks. Then you're using port-forwarding and are NOT in the DMZ.
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node o=
change ISPs?u
If so, any chance that's when things went south?
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to the Echolink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then
nothing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?
The reason I ask is because I once accidentally changed my RTP_pass entry
in tbd.conf and lost all audio. Everything else seemed OK though. Your tbd.conf looked OK to me, but I did notice a version difference. Since yo=
have an Embedded node, this should not be a problem. I just mention it in case you can think of anything that may have happened to your RTP_pass
entry.
I move fairly often and it seems I always get something wrong whenP
setting things back up at a new location. Last year I forwarded the
EchoIRLP ports as TCP until I realized no one was connecting. For EchoIRL=
it should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open any more port=s
than needed.stuff
If you are able to connect (and be connected to) in IRLP, then the basic =
should be working. Still it's a good idea to look at the node to be sure.)
I don't have an embedded node, so things could be a little different for
you but next time you log into the node, type:
ifconfig
Check to be sure the "inet addr:" for eth0 (or wlan0 if you're using WiFi=
agrees with where you are forwarding UDP ports 5198 and 5199 in the route=r.
It should of course be the same as where you are forwarding the IRLP port=s.
There are so many little numbers on my port-forwarding screen that I easi=ly
miss things. You've probably already checked this, but I had to ask.
Unfortunately the Embedded nodes were before my time in IRLP. I amo
definitely not the best person to diagnose problems here, but I'm happy t=
share what I've experienced with EchoIRLP along the way.
-Andy
------------------------------
*From:* "Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP]" < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, July 28, 2017 7:03 PM
*Subject:* RE: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Hi Andy.LP
Since Echolink isn't working, I have it currently disabled. Our IRLP connection does work, but doesn't see a lot of activity. I'm up for an IR=
chat, but it will have to be sometime later as I=E2=80=99m at work now an=d have a
pretty busy day tomorrow (Saturday).
Answers to your questions:
Embedded Node ( not a Pi, purchased from Dave Cameron a number of years
ago).
Portforwarded (all port tests pass, including the Echolink UDP ports).
Not sure of the OS=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ll let you know.
Through a router, but nothing else connected.
I saw a note about possible conflicts between 2 software mixers, but I
don't recall the details and I can't find the post again. Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Don
Sent from my Windows 10 phone
From: Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:41 AM
To: EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Don & Tony,e
I am have only had a Debian node less than 3 years, but I noticed a coupl=
things.l
1. Don's tbd.conf is version 1.8 and mine is v.1.10.
I have tbd v. 1.09 so this may mean Don has an older tbd version.
Tony, does this have any bearing?
2. Don (K7LWH) is not showing up in the Echolink Current Logins page: http://www.echolink.org/logins.jsp
But IRLP node 3978 IS on the IRLP Status page.
Don, are you able to connect on IRLP, I notice the node has been IDLE for
a week?
I have been reading the mail a little but, but am not sure about the particulars of Don's setup.
What kind of node is it? PC, Pi or Embedded?
What OS, CentOS or Debian?
Is the node on the Internet or connected through a router?
If connected through a router, is there any chance there is another
computer or smartphone at the site running Echolink?
If connected through a router is the node in the DMZ, or using Port-Forwarding?
The answer to the above questions determine what else I would ask, so I'l=
stop here.e
Don, I am 9 hours ahead of you, but would be up for an IRLP connect befor=
1:00 PM your time.
I believe Tony is 7 hours ahead of me so discussing this in real time is difficult.
This could go back and forth quite a bit so we should probably take it off-list.
-Andy, PA/KB7B
IRLP: 7583
EchoIRLP: KB7B-L
Allstar: 42432
From: "'Tony Langdon' echoirlp@freeway.apana.org.au [EchoIRLP]" < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
To: DonSaylerdon.sayler@gma
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
-=3D> Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote to EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=3D-:(
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Yep that's the one. I can't see anything obvious off the top of my head. =
Looks OK, maybe some other eagle eyed person might spot something. :)
.... And now for something you'll really like! -Rocky
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=20
Sounds like something screwy on your system.
There are relay servers, but they have limitations, especially when you join TL>large net.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Sounds like something screwy on your system.
What was your first clue?? <G> It's probably something caused by one
of the recent Microsoft Windows updates. :D
As for the "End Of The Line" for the net, the ham who had been
running the Echolink Node for several years had been having numerous problems with it, likely with OS upgrades...and had "finally had
enough". The net itself had been running for nearly 9 years.
As for OS's, newer, is NOT always better...or like the tagline noted below. <G>
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Sounds like something screwy on your system.
What was your first clue?? <G> It's probably something caused by one
of the recent Microsoft Windows updates. :D
As for the "End Of The Line" for the net, the ham who had been
running the Echolink Node for several years had been having numerous problems with it, likely with OS upgrades...and had "finally had
enough". The net itself had been running for nearly 9 years.
As for OS's, newer, is NOT always better...or like the tagline noted below. <G>
Umm, maybe Windows :D
Should have installed EchoIRLP (creeping back on topic ;) ).
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Umm, maybe Windows :D
Like the tagline "Failure is not an option. It comes shipped with Windows". <G>
Should have installed EchoIRLP (creeping back on topic ;) ).
I think he had the Echolink node on a laptop with Windows 10, but
I've heard too many horror stories with Windows 8 and up. I'm perfectly happy with Windows 7. But, it may have also been a hardware issue with
the laptop, plus the internet connection. He also had numerous health issues, and it was just getting to be too much for him.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Umm, maybe Windows :D
Like the tagline "Failure is not an option. It comes shipped with Windows". <G>
Should have installed EchoIRLP (creeping back on topic ;) ).
I think he had the Echolink node on a laptop with Windows 10, but
I've heard too many horror stories with Windows 8 and up. I'm perfectly happy with Windows 7. But, it may have also been a hardware issue with
the laptop, plus the internet connection. He also had numerous health issues, and it was just getting to be too much for him.
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Umm, maybe Windows :D
Like the tagline "Failure is not an option. It comes shipped with Windows". <G>
That's the one. :)
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
I thought so. I admit I have been pleasantly surprised with Windows
XP, then Windows 7.
There's a graphic that I got from Facebook that showed various domiciles, per the version of Windows.
Windows 95 started with a simple 2 room cottage...a bit nicer than a tree house (I guess that was Windows 3.x) <G>.
Then, it was Windows 98 and 2000, which were similar, but slightly larger.
Windows XP was a nice, multi-level structure, with a garage.
Windows Vista was upside down, with the roof on the ground...and a ladder you had to climb to get into it. <G>
Windows 7 was a very nice structure, and Windows 8 looked like a
massive playground structure.
I'm not sure what Windows 10 looked like...Windows 9 was invisible, though (M$ skipped over it). :P
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
I thought so. I admit I have been pleasantly surprised with Windows
XP, then Windows 7.
There's a graphic that I got from Facebook that showed various domiciles, per the version of Windows.
Windows 95 started with a simple 2 room cottage...a bit nicer than a tree house (I guess that was Windows 3.x) <G>.
Then, it was Windows 98 and 2000, which were similar, but slightly larger.
Windows XP was a nice, multi-level structure, with a garage.
Windows Vista was upside down, with the roof on the ground...and a ladder you had to climb to get into it. <G>
Windows 7 was a very nice structure, and Windows 8 looked like a
massive playground structure.
I'm not sure what Windows 10 looked like...Windows 9 was invisible, though (M$ skipped over it). :P
Don,e
Thanks for all the details. I can think of two things that might cause Echolink connections with no audio the way you described.
1. If the UDP 5198-5199 ports are being forwarded to a different IP
address which could happen if you ever had a dedicated Echolink box at th=
site. I could only see this if someone else had administered the nodeth
before you.
2. Check to make sure the entry for "RTP_Pass =3D " in tbd.conf agrees wi=
the "ECHO_TBD_PASSWD=3D" entry in the echo_environment file. On my node b=oth
these files are located in the /home/EchoIRLP/custom/ directory. Embedded Nodes have a "features" directory so it may be a little different for you=.
If these entries are different for some reason, change one or the other t=o
make the passwords identical. I think you need to run "flash_sync"
afterwards to save these files to flash memory. Then reboot the node or
type "/home/irlp/custom/rc.irlp" to restart IRLP and EchoIRLP.
Feel free to connect (IRLP 7583) when you are at the site. If I'm home, m=y
IRLP Node Status should show IDLE.
-Andy
7583
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?r
Hardwired ethernet to the router.
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node o=
change ISPs?
Changed ISPs, but Echolink didn't work before we changed. I kept the IP addresses on 'our' side the same as before.
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to the Echolink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then
nothing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?
As I recall, nothing at all. We're going to be at the site next week, so
I'll give it another go. I'll double check the IP setup too. I understand that IRLP and Echolink share the hardware, so if IRLP works, it seems unlikely that its an IP issue.
For EchoIRLP it should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open
any more ports than needed.
Yup, plus the IRLP ports.
Its just really weird that IRLP works and Echolink doesn't. Its gotta be something simple that I'm overlooking. We're going to be at the site nex=t
Wednesday at 10am-ish our time. If my calculations are correct, that's
about 7pm for you. I could ring up your Echolink node and see if you can
hear me. Then we can connect on IRLP and discuss our findings.
Don
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Don,r
OK thanks. Then you're using port-forwarding and are NOT in the DMZ.
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node o=
change ISPs?u
If so, any chance that's when things went south?
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to the Echolink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then
nothing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?
The reason I ask is because I once accidentally changed my RTP_pass entry
in tbd.conf and lost all audio. Everything else seemed OK though. Your tbd.conf looked OK to me, but I did notice a version difference. Since yo=
have an Embedded node, this should not be a problem. I just mention it in case you can think of anything that may have happened to your RTP_pass
entry.
I move fairly often and it seems I always get something wrong whenP
setting things back up at a new location. Last year I forwarded the
EchoIRLP ports as TCP until I realized no one was connecting. For EchoIRL=
it should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open any more port=s
than needed.stuff
If you are able to connect (and be connected to) in IRLP, then the basic =
should be working. Still it's a good idea to look at the node to be sure.)
I don't have an embedded node, so things could be a little different for
you but next time you log into the node, type:
ifconfig
Check to be sure the "inet addr:" for eth0 (or wlan0 if you're using WiFi=
agrees with where you are forwarding UDP ports 5198 and 5199 in the route=r.
It should of course be the same as where you are forwarding the IRLP port=s.
There are so many little numbers on my port-forwarding screen that I easi=ly
miss things. You've probably already checked this, but I had to ask.
Unfortunately the Embedded nodes were before my time in IRLP. I amo
definitely not the best person to diagnose problems here, but I'm happy t=
share what I've experienced with EchoIRLP along the way.
-Andy
------------------------------
*From:* "Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP]" < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, July 28, 2017 7:03 PM
*Subject:* RE: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Hi Andy.LP
Since Echolink isn't working, I have it currently disabled. Our IRLP connection does work, but doesn't see a lot of activity. I'm up for an IR=
chat, but it will have to be sometime later as I=E2=80=99m at work now an=d have a
pretty busy day tomorrow (Saturday).
Answers to your questions:
Embedded Node ( not a Pi, purchased from Dave Cameron a number of years
ago).
Portforwarded (all port tests pass, including the Echolink UDP ports).
Not sure of the OS=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ll let you know.
Through a router, but nothing else connected.
I saw a note about possible conflicts between 2 software mixers, but I
don't recall the details and I can't find the post again. Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Don
Sent from my Windows 10 phone
From: Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:41 AM
To: EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Don & Tony,e
I am have only had a Debian node less than 3 years, but I noticed a coupl=
things.l
1. Don's tbd.conf is version 1.8 and mine is v.1.10.
I have tbd v. 1.09 so this may mean Don has an older tbd version.
Tony, does this have any bearing?
2. Don (K7LWH) is not showing up in the Echolink Current Logins page: http://www.echolink.org/ logins.jsp <http://www.echolink.org/logins.jsp>
But IRLP node 3978 IS on the IRLP Status page.
Don, are you able to connect on IRLP, I notice the node has been IDLE for
a week?
I have been reading the mail a little but, but am not sure about the particulars of Don's setup.
What kind of node is it? PC, Pi or Embedded?
What OS, CentOS or Debian?
Is the node on the Internet or connected through a router?
If connected through a router, is there any chance there is another
computer or smartphone at the site running Echolink?
If connected through a router is the node in the DMZ, or using Port-Forwarding?
The answer to the above questions determine what else I would ask, so I'l=
stop here.e
Don, I am 9 hours ahead of you, but would be up for an IRLP connect befor=
1:00 PM your time.
I believe Tony is 7 hours ahead of me so discussing this in real time is difficult.
This could go back and forth quite a bit so we should probably take it off-list.
-Andy, PA/KB7B
IRLP: 7583
EchoIRLP: KB7B-L
Allstar: 42432
From: "'Tony Langdon' echoirlp@freeway.apana.org.au [EchoIRLP]" < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
To: DonSaylerdon.sayler@gma
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
-=3D> Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote to EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=3D-:(
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Yep that's the one. I can't see anything obvious off the top of my head. =
Looks OK, maybe some other eagle eyed person might spot something. :)
.... And now for something you'll really like! -Rocky
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Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Don,
echo_environment:
I think the double quotes are OK, although my echo_environment password
entry does not have them.
My password does not use any special characters though.
Echolink Prefix:
You'll find the Echolink DTMF prefix set-up near the bottom of /home/irlp/custom/custom_decode, here's mine:
---------------- End of /home/irlp/custom/custom_decode ----------------
# Echolink Prefix detector
# If you change the EchoIRLP prefix, you must also change "num" below to
the number of digits in the prefix.
eval `echo $1 | awk -v num=3D1 '{
print "PRE=3D"substr($1,1,num);
print "NODE=3D"substr($1,(num)+1,length($1))}'`
#Call echolink conferences using star node method
if [ "$PRE" =3D "S" ] ; then "$ECHO_SCRIPT"/echo_call $NODE ; exit 1 ; fi
if [ -x "$ECHO_SCRIPT/echo_end" ] ; then
if [ "$1" =3D "73" ] ; then "$ECHO_SCRIPT"/echo_end ; exit 1 ; fi
fi
----------------- End of File ----------------------
In the "eval" line, I have num=3D1 which choses one character as an Echol=ink
prefix.P".
If you have a conflict with your repeater controller, you may need to use
2 characters in which case you would set "num=3D2".
The "Call Echolink" line that follows is where you set the prefix itself.
I use a star which is set with an "$PRE =3D S", pound (#) is set with a "=
I believe you can also use A, B or C but IRLP does not decode the "D" as =I
recall.
Good luck this morning.
-Andy
------------------------------
*From:* "Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP]" < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:58 AM
*Subject:* Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
The password is the same in both files, but in echo_environment it is enclosed in double quotes.=E2=80=8Big
I'm pretty sure I set the node up to use the pound-sign to indicate
Echolink node numbers, but now I can't remember where that is in the conf=
files. Any idea where to look?
Thanks.
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Don,e
Thanks for all the details. I can think of two things that might cause Echolink connections with no audio the way you described.
1. If the UDP 5198-5199 ports are being forwarded to a different IP
address which could happen if you ever had a dedicated Echolink box at th=
site. I could only see this if someone else had administered the nodeth
before you.
2. Check to make sure the entry for "RTP_Pass =3D " in tbd.conf agrees wi=
the "ECHO_TBD_PASSWD=3D" entry in the echo_environment file. On my node b=oth
these files are located in the /home/EchoIRLP/custom/ directory. Embedded Nodes have a "features" directory so it may be a little different for you=.
If these entries are different for some reason, change one or the other t=o
make the passwords identical. I think you need to run "flash_sync"
afterwards to save these files to flash memory. Then reboot the node or
type "/home/irlp/custom/rc.irlp" to restart IRLP and EchoIRLP.
Feel free to connect (IRLP 7583) when you are at the site. If I'm home, m=y
IRLP Node Status should show IDLE.
-Andy
7583
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?r
Hardwired ethernet to the router.
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node o=
change ISPs?
Changed ISPs, but Echolink didn't work before we changed. I kept the IP addresses on 'our' side the same as before.
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to the Echolink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then
nothing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?
As I recall, nothing at all. We're going to be at the site next week, so
I'll give it another go. I'll double check the IP setup too. I understand that IRLP and Echolink share the hardware, so if IRLP works, it seems unlikely that its an IP issue.
For EchoIRLP it should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open
any more ports than needed.
Yup, plus the IRLP ports.
Its just really weird that IRLP works and Echolink doesn't. Its gotta be something simple that I'm overlooking. We're going to be at the site nex=t
Wednesday at 10am-ish our time. If my calculations are correct, that's
about 7pm for you. I could ring up your Echolink node and see if you can
hear me. Then we can connect on IRLP and discuss our findings.
Don
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Don,r
OK thanks. Then you're using port-forwarding and are NOT in the DMZ.
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node o=
change ISPs?u
If so, any chance that's when things went south?
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to the Echolink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then
nothing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?
The reason I ask is because I once accidentally changed my RTP_pass entry
in tbd.conf and lost all audio. Everything else seemed OK though. Your tbd.conf looked OK to me, but I did notice a version difference. Since yo=
have an Embedded node, this should not be a problem. I just mention it in case you can think of anything that may have happened to your RTP_pass
entry.
I move fairly often and it seems I always get something wrong whenP
setting things back up at a new location. Last year I forwarded the
EchoIRLP ports as TCP until I realized no one was connecting. For EchoIRL=
it should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open any more port=s
than needed.stuff
If you are able to connect (and be connected to) in IRLP, then the basic =
should be working. Still it's a good idea to look at the node to be sure.)
I don't have an embedded node, so things could be a little different for
you but next time you log into the node, type:
ifconfig
Check to be sure the "inet addr:" for eth0 (or wlan0 if you're using WiFi=
agrees with where you are forwarding UDP ports 5198 and 5199 in the route=r.
It should of course be the same as where you are forwarding the IRLP port=s.
There are so many little numbers on my port-forwarding screen that I easi=ly
miss things. You've probably already checked this, but I had to ask.
Unfortunately the Embedded nodes were before my time in IRLP. I amo
definitely not the best person to diagnose problems here, but I'm happy t=
share what I've experienced with EchoIRLP along the way.
-Andy
------------------------------
*From:* "Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP]" < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, July 28, 2017 7:03 PM
*Subject:* RE: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Hi Andy.LP
Since Echolink isn't working, I have it currently disabled. Our IRLP connection does work, but doesn't see a lot of activity. I'm up for an IR=
chat, but it will have to be sometime later as I=E2=80=99m at work now an=d have a
pretty busy day tomorrow (Saturday).
Answers to your questions:
Embedded Node ( not a Pi, purchased from Dave Cameron a number of years
ago).
Portforwarded (all port tests pass, including the Echolink UDP ports).
Not sure of the OS=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ll let you know.
Through a router, but nothing else connected.
I saw a note about possible conflicts between 2 software mixers, but I
don't recall the details and I can't find the post again. Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Don
Sent from my Windows 10 phone
From: Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:41 AM
To: EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Don & Tony,e
I am have only had a Debian node less than 3 years, but I noticed a coupl=
things.l
1. Don's tbd.conf is version 1.8 and mine is v.1.10.
I have tbd v. 1.09 so this may mean Don has an older tbd version.
Tony, does this have any bearing?
2. Don (K7LWH) is not showing up in the Echolink Current Logins page: http://www.echolink.org/ logins.jsp <http://www.echolink.org/logins.jsp>
But IRLP node 3978 IS on the IRLP Status page.
Don, are you able to connect on IRLP, I notice the node has been IDLE for
a week?
I have been reading the mail a little but, but am not sure about the particulars of Don's setup.
What kind of node is it? PC, Pi or Embedded?
What OS, CentOS or Debian?
Is the node on the Internet or connected through a router?
If connected through a router, is there any chance there is another
computer or smartphone at the site running Echolink?
If connected through a router is the node in the DMZ, or using Port-Forwarding?
The answer to the above questions determine what else I would ask, so I'l=
stop here.e
Don, I am 9 hours ahead of you, but would be up for an IRLP connect befor=
1:00 PM your time.
I believe Tony is 7 hours ahead of me so discussing this in real time is difficult.
This could go back and forth quite a bit so we should probably take it off-list.
-Andy, PA/KB7B
IRLP: 7583
EchoIRLP: KB7B-L
Allstar: 42432
From: "'Tony Langdon' echoirlp@freeway.apana.org.au [EchoIRLP]" < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
To: DonSaylerdon.sayler@gma
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
-=3D> Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote to EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=3D-:(
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Yep that's the one. I can't see anything obvious off the top of my head. =
Looks OK, maybe some other eagle eyed person might spot something. :)
.... And now for something you'll really like! -Rocky
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<hr size=3D"1" id=3D"m_7358825026488029606yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501656203185=_3405"> <b id=3D"m_7358825026488029606yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501656203185_2907"= ><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;" id=3D"m_7358825026488029606yui_3_16_0_ym= 19_1_1501656203185_2906">From:</span></b> "Don Sayler <a href=3D"mailt= o:don.sayler@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">don.sayler@gmail.com</a> [EchoIRL= P]" <<a href=3D"mailto:EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">= EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">T= o:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank"= >EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> </span><b id=3D"m_7358825026488029606yui= _3_16_0_ym19_1_1501656203185_2914"><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;" id=3D"= m_7358825026488029606yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501656203185_2913">Sent:</span></b>=
Yay! I did change it...fi
# use pound sign as prefix - 11/23/2013, W7OXR
if [ "$PRE" =3D "P" ] ; then "$ECHO_SCRIPT"/echo_call $NODE ; exit 1 ; =
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:20 AM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:i
Don,
echo_environment:
I think the double quotes are OK, although my echo_environment password
entry does not have them.
My password does not use any special characters though.
Echolink Prefix:
You'll find the Echolink DTMF prefix set-up near the bottom of
/home/irlp/custom/custom_decode, here's mine:
---------------- End of /home/irlp/custom/custom_decode ----------------
# Echolink Prefix detector
# If you change the EchoIRLP prefix, you must also change "num" below to
the number of digits in the prefix.
eval `echo $1 | awk -v num=3D1 '{
print "PRE=3D"substr($1,1,num);
print "NODE=3D"substr($1,(num)+1,length($1))}'`
#Call echolink conferences using star node method
if [ "$PRE" =3D "S" ] ; then "$ECHO_SCRIPT"/echo_call $NODE ; exit 1 ; f=
e
if [ -x "$ECHO_SCRIPT/echo_end" ] ; then
if [ "$1" =3D "73" ] ; then "$ECHO_SCRIPT"/echo_end ; exit 1 ; fi
fi
----------------- End of File ----------------------
In the "eval" line, I have num=3D1 which choses one character as an
Echolink prefix.
If you have a conflict with your repeater controller, you may need to us=
.2 characters in which case you would set "num=3D2".
The "Call Echolink" line that follows is where you set the prefix itself=
heI use a star which is set with an "$PRE =3D S", pound (#) is set with a
"P".
I believe you can also use A, B or C but IRLP does not decode the "D" as
I recall.
Good luck this morning.
-Andy
------------------------------
*From:* "Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP]" <
EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:58 AM
*Subject:* Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
The password is the same in both files, but in echo_environment it is
enclosed in double quotes.=E2=80=8B
I'm pretty sure I set the node up to use the pound-sign to indicate
Echolink node numbers, but now I can't remember where that is in the con= fig
files. Any idea where to look?
Thanks.
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com
[EchoIRLP] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Don,
Thanks for all the details. I can think of two things that might cause
Echolink connections with no audio the way you described.
1. If the UDP 5198-5199 ports are being forwarded to a different IP
address which could happen if you ever had a dedicated Echolink box at t=
dsite. I could only see this if someone else had administered the node
before you.
2. Check to make sure the entry for "RTP_Pass =3D " in tbd.conf agrees w= ith
the "ECHO_TBD_PASSWD=3D" entry in the echo_environment file. On my node = both
these files are located in the /home/EchoIRLP/custom/ directory. Embedde=
u.Nodes have a "features" directory so it may be a little different for yo=
e
If these entries are different for some reason, change one or the other
to make the passwords identical. I think you need to run "flash_sync"
afterwards to save these files to flash memory. Then reboot the node or
type "/home/irlp/custom/rc.irlp" to restart IRLP and EchoIRLP.
Feel free to connect (IRLP 7583) when you are at the site. If I'm home,
my IRLP Node Status should show IDLE.
-Andy
7583
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?
Hardwired ethernet to the router.
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node
or change ISPs?
Changed ISPs, but Echolink didn't work before we changed. I kept the IP
addresses on 'our' side the same as before.
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to th=
dEcholink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then
nothing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?
As I recall, nothing at all. We're going to be at the site next week, so
I'll give it another go. I'll double check the IP setup too. I understan=
xtthat IRLP and Echolink share the hardware, so if IRLP works, it seems
unlikely that its an IP issue.
For EchoIRLP it should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open
any more ports than needed.
Yup, plus the IRLP ports.
Its just really weird that IRLP works and Echolink doesn't. Its gotta be
something simple that I'm overlooking. We're going to be at the site ne=
eWednesday at 10am-ish our time. If my calculations are correct, that's
about 7pm for you. I could ring up your Echolink node and see if you can
hear me. Then we can connect on IRLP and discuss our findings.
Don
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com
[EchoIRLP] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Don,
OK thanks. Then you're using port-forwarding and are NOT in the DMZ.
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node
or change ISPs?
If so, any chance that's when things went south?
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to th=
yEcholink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then
nothing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?
The reason I ask is because I once accidentally changed my RTP_pass entr=
ouin tbd.conf and lost all audio. Everything else seemed OK though. Your
tbd.conf looked OK to me, but I did notice a version difference. Since y=
nhave an Embedded node, this should not be a problem. I just mention it i=
LPcase you can think of anything that may have happened to your RTP_pass
entry.
I move fairly often and it seems I always get something wrong when
setting things back up at a new location. Last year I forwarded the
EchoIRLP ports as TCP until I realized no one was connecting. For EchoIR=
tsit should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open any more por=
stuffthan needed.
If you are able to connect (and be connected to) in IRLP, then the basic=
ntshould be working. Still it's a good idea to look at the node to be
sure. I don't have an embedded node, so things could be a little differe=
efor you but next time you log into the node, type:
ifconfig
Check to be sure the "inet addr:" for eth0 (or wlan0 if you're using
WiFi) agrees with where you are forwarding UDP ports 5198 and 5199 in th=
nrouter. It should of course be the same as where you are forwarding the
IRLP ports. There are so many little numbers on my port-forwarding scree=
adthat I easily miss things. You've probably already checked this, but I h=
toto ask.
Unfortunately the Embedded nodes were before my time in IRLP. I am
definitely not the best person to diagnose problems here, but I'm happy =
nd have ashare what I've experienced with EchoIRLP along the way.
-Andy
------------------------------
*From:* "Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP]" <
EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, July 28, 2017 7:03 PM
*Subject:* RE: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Hi Andy.
Since Echolink isn't working, I have it currently disabled. Our IRLP
connection does work, but doesn't see a lot of activity. I'm up for an I= RLP
chat, but it will have to be sometime later as I=E2=80=99m at work now a=
rpretty busy day tomorrow (Saturday).
Answers to your questions:
Embedded Node ( not a Pi, purchased from Dave Cameron a number of years
ago).
Portforwarded (all port tests pass, including the Echolink UDP ports).
Not sure of the OS=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ll let you know.
Through a router, but nothing else connected.
I saw a note about possible conflicts between 2 software mixers, but I
don't recall the details and I can't find the post again. Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Don
Sent from my Windows 10 phone
From: Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:41 AM
To: EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Don & Tony,
I am have only had a Debian node less than 3 years, but I noticed a
couple things.
1. Don's tbd.conf is version 1.8 and mine is v.1.10.
I have tbd v. 1.09 so this may mean Don has an older tbd version.
Tony, does this have any bearing?
2. Don (K7LWH) is not showing up in the Echolink Current Logins page:
http://www.echolink.org/ logins.jsp <http://www.echolink.org/logins.jsp>
But IRLP node 3978 IS on the IRLP Status page.
Don, are you able to connect on IRLP, I notice the node has been IDLE fo=
a week?
I have been reading the mail a little but, but am not sure about the
particulars of Don's setup.
What kind of node is it? PC, Pi or Embedded?
What OS, CentOS or Debian?
Is the node on the Internet or connected through a router?
If connected through a router, is there any chance there is another
computer or smartphone at the site running Echolink?
If connected through a router is the node in the DMZ, or using
Port-Forwarding?
The answer to the above questions determine what else I would ask, so
I'll stop here.
Don, I am 9 hours ahead of you, but would be up for an IRLP connect
before 1:00 PM your time.
I believe Tony is 7 hours ahead of me so discussing this in real time is
difficult.
This could go back and forth quite a bit so we should probably take it
off-list.
-Andy, PA/KB7B
IRLP: 7583
EchoIRLP: KB7B-L
Allstar: 42432
From: "'Tony Langdon' echoirlp@freeway.apana.org.au [EchoIRLP]" <
EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
To: DonSaylerdon.sayler@gma
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
-=3D> Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote to
EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=3D-
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Yep that's the one. I can't see anything obvious off the top of my head.
:(
Looks OK, maybe some other eagle eyed person might spot something. :)
.... And now for something you'll really like! -Rocky
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=20
[EchoIRLP] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.=com" target=3D"_blank">EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><b= lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;">
On Aug 2, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] <E=choIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
=20fix.
Our repeater controller uses the Asterisk, and IRLP doesn't require a pre=
Thanks for all your help Andy.=20fi
=20
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Don Sayler <don.sayler@gmail.com> wrote:
Yay! I did change it...
=20
# use pound sign as prefix - 11/23/2013, W7OXR
if [ "$PRE" =3D "P" ] ; then "$ECHO_SCRIPT"/echo_call $NODE ; exit 1 ;=
P] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:=20
=20
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:20 AM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRL=
entry does not have them.=20=20=20
Don,
=20
echo_environment:
I think the double quotes are OK, although my echo_environment password=
-My password does not use any special characters though.
=20
=20
Echolink Prefix:
You'll find the Echolink DTMF prefix set-up near the bottom of /home/ir= lp/custom/custom_decode, here's mine:
=20
---------------- End of /home/irlp/custom/custom_decode ---------------=
o the number of digits in the prefix.=20
# Echolink Prefix detector
# If you change the EchoIRLP prefix, you must also change "num" below t=
fieval `echo $1 | awk -v num=3D1 '{=20
print "PRE=3D"substr($1,1,num);
print "NODE=3D"substr($1,(num)+1,length($1))}'`
=20
#Call echolink conferences using star node method
if [ "$PRE" =3D "S" ] ; then "$ECHO_SCRIPT"/echo_call $NODE ; exit 1 ; =
se 2 characters in which case you would set "num=3D2".=20
if [ -x "$ECHO_SCRIPT/echo_end" ] ; then
if [ "$1" =3D "73" ] ; then "$ECHO_SCRIPT"/echo_end ; exit 1 ; fi
fi
=20
----------------- End of File ----------------------
=20
=20
In the "eval" line, I have num=3D1 which choses one character as an Ech= olink prefix.=20
If you have a conflict with your repeater controller, you may need to u=
f.=20
The "Call Echolink" line that follows is where you set the prefix itsel=
"P".=20I use a star which is set with an "$PRE =3D S", pound (#) is set with a=
s I recall.I believe you can also use A, B or C but IRLP does not decode the "D" a=
P] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:=20
Good luck this morning.
=20
=20
-Andy
=20
From: "Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP]" <EchoIRLP@yahoogroup= s.com>
To: EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:58 AM
=20
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
=20
=20=20
The password is the same in both files, but in echo_environment it is e= nclosed in double quotes.=E2=80=8B
=20
I'm pretty sure I set the node up to use the pound-sign to indicate Ech= olink node numbers, but now I can't remember where that is in the config fi= les. Any idea where to look?
=20
Thanks.
=20
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRL=
e. I could only see this if someone else had administered the node before y= ou.=20=20
Don,
=20
Thanks for all the details. I can think of two things that might cause = Echolink connections with no audio the way you described.
=20
1. If the UDP 5198-5199 ports are being forwarded to a different IP add= ress which could happen if you ever had a dedicated Echolink box at the sit=
e both these files are located in the /home/EchoIRLP/custom/ directory. Emb= edded Nodes have a "features" directory so it may be a little different for==20
2. Check to make sure the entry for "RTP_Pass =3D " in tbd.conf agrees = with the "ECHO_TBD_PASSWD=3D" entry in the echo_environment file. On my nod=
to make the passwords identical. I think you need to run "flash_sync" afte= rwards to save these files to flash memory. Then reboot the node or type "/= home/irlp/custom/rc.irlp" to restart IRLP and EchoIRLP.=20
If these entries are different for some reason, change one or the other=
my IRLP Node Status should show IDLE.=20
=20
Feel free to connect (IRLP 7583) when you are at the site. If I'm home,=
or change ISPs?=20=20
=20
-Andy
7583
=20
=20
=20
=20=20
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?
Hardwired ethernet to the router.
=20
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node=
addresses on 'our' side the same as before.Changed ISPs, but Echolink didn't work before we changed. I kept the IP=
he Echolink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then not= hing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?=20
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to t=
o I'll give it another go. I'll double check the IP setup too. I understand=As I recall, nothing at all. We're going to be at the site next week, s=
n any more ports than needed.=20
For EchoIRLP it should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to ope=
e something simple that I'm overlooking. We're going to be at the site nex=Yup, plus the IRLP ports.
=20
=20
Its just really weird that IRLP works and Echolink doesn't. Its gotta b=
P] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:=20
Don
=20
=20
=20
=20
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRL=
or change ISPs?=20=20=20
Don,
=20
OK thanks. Then you're using port-forwarding and are NOT in the DMZ.=20
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?
=20
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node=
he Echolink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then not= hing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?If so, any chance that's when things went south?
=20
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to t=
ry in tbd.conf and lost all audio. Everything else seemed OK though. Your t= bd.conf looked OK to me, but I did notice a version difference. Since you h= ave an Embedded node, this should not be a problem. I just mention it in ca==20
The reason I ask is because I once accidentally changed my RTP_pass ent=
e ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open any more ports than needed==20
I move fairly often and it seems I always get something wrong when sett= ing things back up at a new location. Last year I forwarded the EchoIRLP po= rts as TCP until I realized no one was connecting. For EchoIRLP it should b=
c stuff should be working. Still it's a good idea to look at the node to be==20
If you are able to connect (and be connected to) in IRLP, then the basi=
e what I've experienced with EchoIRLP along the way.=20
ifconfig
=20
Check to be sure the "inet addr:" for eth0 (or wlan0 if you're using Wi= Fi) agrees with where you are forwarding UDP ports 5198 and 5199 in the rou= ter. It should of course be the same as where you are forwarding the IRLP p= orts. There are so many little numbers on my port-forwarding screen that I = easily miss things. You've probably already checked this, but I had to ask. >>>=20
=20
Unfortunately the Embedded nodes were before my time in IRLP. I am defi= nitely not the best person to diagnose problems here, but I'm happy to shar=
ago).=20
=20
-Andy
=20
From: "Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP]" <EchoIRLP@yahoogroup= s.com>
To: "EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>=20
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:03 PM
Subject: RE: [EchoIRLP] no audio
=20
=20=20
Hi Andy.
=20
Since Echolink isn't working, I have it currently disabled. Our IRLP co= nnection does work, but doesn't see a lot of activity. I'm up for an IRLP c= hat, but it will have to be sometime later as I=E2=80=99m at work now and h= ave a pretty busy day tomorrow (Saturday).
=20
Answers to your questions:
Embedded Node ( not a Pi, purchased from Dave Cameron a number of years=
or a week?=20
Portforwarded (all port tests pass, including the Echolink UDP ports). >>>=20
Not sure of the OS=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ll let you know.
=20
Through a router, but nothing else connected.
=20
I saw a note about possible conflicts between 2 software mixers, but I = don't recall the details and I can't find the post again. Any thoughts?
=20
Thanks.
Don
=20
Sent from my Windows 10 phone
=20
From: Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:41 AM
To: EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
=20
=20=20=20
Don & Tony,
=20
I am have only had a Debian node less than 3 years, but I noticed a cou= ple things.
=20
1. Don's tbd.conf is version 1.8 and mine is v.1.10.
I have tbd v. 1.09 so this may mean Don has an older tbd version.
Tony, does this have any bearing?
=20
2. Don (K7LWH) is not showing up in the Echolink Current Logins page:
http://www.echolink.org/ logins.jsp
But IRLP node 3978 IS on the IRLP Status page.
Don, are you able to connect on IRLP, I notice the node has been IDLE f=
s difficult.=20
I have been reading the mail a little but, but am not sure about the pa= rticulars of Don's setup.
=20
What kind of node is it? PC, Pi or Embedded?
=20
What OS, CentOS or Debian?
=20
Is the node on the Internet or connected through a router?
=20
If connected through a router, is there any chance there is another com= puter or smartphone at the site running Echolink?
=20
If connected through a router is the node in the DMZ, or using Port-For= warding?
=20
The answer to the above questions determine what else I would ask, so I= 'll stop here.
=20
Don, I am 9 hours ahead of you, but would be up for an IRLP connect bef= ore 1:00 PM your time.=20
I believe Tony is 7 hours ahead of me so discussing this in real time i=
. :(=20
This could go back and forth quite a bit so we should probably take it = off-list.
=20
-Andy, PA/KB7B
IRLP: 7583
EchoIRLP: KB7B-L
Allstar: 42432
=20
From: "'Tony Langdon' echoirlp@freeway.apana.org.au [EchoIRLP]" <EchoIR= LP@yahoogroups.com>
To: DonSaylerdon.sayler@gma=20
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
=20
=20=20=20
-=3D> Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote to
EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=3D-
=20
Do you mean echo_environment?=20
Here's that one...
Yep that's the one. I can't see anything obvious off the top of my head=
=20Looks OK, maybe some other eagle eyed person might spot something. :) >>>=20
.... And now for something you'll really like! -Rocky
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=20
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=20
[EchoIRLP]" <<a href=3D"mailto:EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_b=lank">EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bo= ld;">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_= blank">EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> </span><b id=3D"m_6711993862465928= 621m_7358825026488029606yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501656203185_2914"><span style= =3D"font-weight:bold;" id=3D"m_6711993862465928621m_7358825026488029606yui_= 3_16_0_ym19_1_1501656203185_2913">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 2, 201=
[EchoIRLP] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href==3D"mailto:EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">EchoIRLP@yahoogroups= .com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"m_6711993= 862465928621m_7358825026488029606yiv1138515063m_-1334263080677471334yiv1786= 607732gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid = rgb(204,204,204);">
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Don,e
Thanks for all the details. I can think of two things that might cause Echolink connections with no audio the way you described.
1. If the UDP 5198-5199 ports are being forwarded to a different IP
address which could happen if you ever had a dedicated Echolink box at th=
site. I could only see this if someone else had administered the nodeth
before you.
2. Check to make sure the entry for "RTP_Pass =3D " in tbd.conf agrees wi=
the "ECHO_TBD_PASSWD=3D" entry in the echo_environment file. On my node b=oth
these files are located in the /home/EchoIRLP/custom/ directory. Embedded Nodes have a "features" directory so it may be a little different for you=.
If these entries are different for some reason, change one or the other t=o
make the passwords identical. I think you need to run "flash_sync"
afterwards to save these files to flash memory. Then reboot the node or
type "/home/irlp/custom/rc.irlp" to restart IRLP and EchoIRLP.
Feel free to connect (IRLP 7583) when you are at the site. If I'm home, m=y
IRLP Node Status should show IDLE.
-Andy
7583
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?r
Hardwired ethernet to the router.
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node o=
change ISPs?
Changed ISPs, but Echolink didn't work before we changed. I kept the IP addresses on 'our' side the same as before.
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to the Echolink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then
nothing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?
As I recall, nothing at all. We're going to be at the site next week, so
I'll give it another go. I'll double check the IP setup too. I understand that IRLP and Echolink share the hardware, so if IRLP works, it seems unlikely that its an IP issue.
For EchoIRLP it should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open
any more ports than needed.
Yup, plus the IRLP ports.
Its just really weird that IRLP works and Echolink doesn't. Its gotta be something simple that I'm overlooking. We're going to be at the site nex=t
Wednesday at 10am-ish our time. If my calculations are correct, that's
about 7pm for you. I could ring up your Echolink node and see if you can
hear me. Then we can connect on IRLP and discuss our findings.
Don
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP] <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Don,r
OK thanks. Then you're using port-forwarding and are NOT in the DMZ.
Are you using Ethernet or WiFi to the node?
I noticed that your IP address changed last year. Did you move the node o=
change ISPs?u
If so, any chance that's when things went south?
I wonder if you could explain what happens when you try to connect to the Echolink Test Server 9999? Do you hear the Welcome message and then
nothing, do you just hear nothing at all, or do you get an error?
The reason I ask is because I once accidentally changed my RTP_pass entry
in tbd.conf and lost all audio. Everything else seemed OK though. Your tbd.conf looked OK to me, but I did notice a version difference. Since yo=
have an Embedded node, this should not be a problem. I just mention it in case you can think of anything that may have happened to your RTP_pass
entry.
I move fairly often and it seems I always get something wrong whenP
setting things back up at a new location. Last year I forwarded the
EchoIRLP ports as TCP until I realized no one was connecting. For EchoIRL=
it should be ports 5198 and 5199 UDP. It's best not to open any more port=s
than needed.stuff
If you are able to connect (and be connected to) in IRLP, then the basic =
should be working. Still it's a good idea to look at the node to be sure.)
I don't have an embedded node, so things could be a little different for
you but next time you log into the node, type:
ifconfig
Check to be sure the "inet addr:" for eth0 (or wlan0 if you're using WiFi=
agrees with where you are forwarding UDP ports 5198 and 5199 in the route=r.
It should of course be the same as where you are forwarding the IRLP port=s.
There are so many little numbers on my port-forwarding screen that I easi=ly
miss things. You've probably already checked this, but I had to ask.
Unfortunately the Embedded nodes were before my time in IRLP. I amo
definitely not the best person to diagnose problems here, but I'm happy t=
share what I've experienced with EchoIRLP along the way.
-Andy
------------------------------
*From:* "Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP]" < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com" <EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, July 28, 2017 7:03 PM
*Subject:* RE: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Hi Andy.LP
Since Echolink isn't working, I have it currently disabled. Our IRLP connection does work, but doesn't see a lot of activity. I'm up for an IR=
chat, but it will have to be sometime later as I=E2=80=99m at work now an=d have a
pretty busy day tomorrow (Saturday).
Answers to your questions:
Embedded Node ( not a Pi, purchased from Dave Cameron a number of years
ago).
Portforwarded (all port tests pass, including the Echolink UDP ports).
Not sure of the OS=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ll let you know.
Through a router, but nothing else connected.
I saw a note about possible conflicts between 2 software mixers, but I
don't recall the details and I can't find the post again. Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Don
Sent from my Windows 10 phone
From: Andy KB7B andy_kb7b@yahoo.com [EchoIRLP]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:41 AM
To: EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
Don & Tony,e
I am have only had a Debian node less than 3 years, but I noticed a coupl=
things.l
1. Don's tbd.conf is version 1.8 and mine is v.1.10.
I have tbd v. 1.09 so this may mean Don has an older tbd version.
Tony, does this have any bearing?
2. Don (K7LWH) is not showing up in the Echolink Current Logins page: http://www.echolink.org/ logins.jsp <http://www.echolink.org/logins.jsp>
But IRLP node 3978 IS on the IRLP Status page.
Don, are you able to connect on IRLP, I notice the node has been IDLE for
a week?
I have been reading the mail a little but, but am not sure about the particulars of Don's setup.
What kind of node is it? PC, Pi or Embedded?
What OS, CentOS or Debian?
Is the node on the Internet or connected through a router?
If connected through a router, is there any chance there is another
computer or smartphone at the site running Echolink?
If connected through a router is the node in the DMZ, or using Port-Forwarding?
The answer to the above questions determine what else I would ask, so I'l=
stop here.e
Don, I am 9 hours ahead of you, but would be up for an IRLP connect befor=
1:00 PM your time.
I believe Tony is 7 hours ahead of me so discussing this in real time is difficult.
This could go back and forth quite a bit so we should probably take it off-list.
-Andy, PA/KB7B
IRLP: 7583
EchoIRLP: KB7B-L
Allstar: 42432
From: "'Tony Langdon' echoirlp@freeway.apana.org.au [EchoIRLP]" < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com>
To: DonSaylerdon.sayler@gma
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [EchoIRLP] no audio
-=3D> Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote to EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=3D-:(
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Yep that's the one. I can't see anything obvious off the top of my head. =
Looks OK, maybe some other eagle eyed person might spot something. :)
.... And now for something you'll really like! -Rocky
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Looks like I spoke a little too soon. One thing still doesn't work...it seemsthat we are not
sending any 'connected' messages when another node connects to us.
We have this in echo_environment:
export ECHO_SAY_NODE=K7LWH
On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:52 PM, don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] <EchoIRLP@yah=oogroups.com> wrote:
=20eems that we are not sending any 'connected' messages when another node con= nects to us.
Looks like I spoke a little too soon. One thing still doesn't work...it s=
=20
=20
We have this in echo_environment:
export ECHO_SAY_NODE=3DK7LWH
=20
What did we miss?
=20
Thanks.
Don
=20
=20
Try:
ECHO_SAY_NODE=3DCALLSIGN
Not your call.
Rick WA6NHC
Tiny iPhone keypad & spiel Czech happens
On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:52 PM, don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] < EchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Looks like I spoke a little too soon. One thing still doesn't work...it
seems that we are not sending any 'connected' messages when another node connects to us.
We have this in echo_environment:
export ECHO_SAY_NODE=3DK7LWH
What did we miss?
Thanks.
Don
=20
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #cc=c solid;">
The node is connected to one of the radio ports on the controller,=20
and the controller treats the node like a radio.
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Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote toEchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=-
We have an EchoIRLP node. IRLP works, but we get no audio on Echolink. Our node connects to the server, and we are listed on the Echolink site as connected. However, no audio is heard coming through.
All port tests pass.
What am I missing? I saw a note on here about changing some security settings, but saw no mention of what those settings are.
Happy to provide any additional info as needed.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Sometimes, it does it on D-Star as well...it's like the system has to <SLAP!> the software to wake it up. No word if it sprints away
afterwards. <G>
With the added ports with Synchronet, and not being very computer inclined (except for setting up doors and batchfiles), I just told it
to do BOTH.
Never used EchoAnswer, but I rarely run in single user mode, except on
smartphones.
I have it on the Smartphone, but use it during a net if my internet connection goes down.
For me, seems to be DMR through my OpenSpot more than anything else.
I hear a lot of chatter about that on the D-Star Nets. I don't know
what the status of D-Star and DMR systems is in central Arkansas.
Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote toEchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=-
As requested:
Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote toEchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=-
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
It usually lasts about 5 to 10 seconds...whether with the USB Webcam
or Headset Mic. But, if I use the internal soundcard, the delay is
gone. However, with that, I can't get any audio on any internet media files, such as YouTube Videos.
I think the smartphone app has its own proxy server connection. Normally, on the desktop, I have the direct internet connection.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Sounds like something screwy on your system.
What was your first clue?? <G> It's probably something caused by one
of the recent Microsoft Windows updates. :D
As for the "End Of The Line" for the net, the ham who had been
running the Echolink Node for several years had been having numerous problems with it, likely with OS upgrades...and had "finally had
enough". The net itself had been running for nearly 9 years.
As for OS's, newer, is NOT always better...or like the tagline noted below. <G>
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Umm, maybe Windows :D
Like the tagline "Failure is not an option. It comes shipped with Windows". <G>
Should have installed EchoIRLP (creeping back on topic ;) ).
I think he had the Echolink node on a laptop with Windows 10, but
I've heard too many horror stories with Windows 8 and up. I'm perfectly happy with Windows 7. But, it may have also been a hardware issue with
the laptop, plus the internet connection. He also had numerous health issues, and it was just getting to be too much for him.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
I thought so. I admit I have been pleasantly surprised with Windows
XP, then Windows 7.
There's a graphic that I got from Facebook that showed various domiciles, per the version of Windows.
Windows 95 started with a simple 2 room cottage...a bit nicer than a tree house (I guess that was Windows 3.x) <G>.
Then, it was Windows 98 and 2000, which were similar, but slightly larger.
Windows XP was a nice, multi-level structure, with a garage.
Windows Vista was upside down, with the roof on the ground...and a ladder you had to climb to get into it. <G>
Windows 7 was a very nice structure, and Windows 8 looked like a
massive playground structure.
I'm not sure what Windows 10 looked like...Windows 9 was invisible, though (M$ skipped over it). :P
Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote toEchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=-
We have an EchoIRLP node. IRLP works, but we get no audio on Echolink. Our node connects to the server, and we are listed on the Echolink site as connected. However, no audio is heard coming through.
All port tests pass.
What am I missing? I saw a note on here about changing some security settings, but saw no mention of what those settings are.
Happy to provide any additional info as needed.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
I sometimes have an audio delay, if I use the mic with the webcam or
USB headset. But, if I use the internal one, the audio delay is gone.
As for the delay, I can click on the lightning bolt, but it takes about
15 seconds for the system to realize what I did...and I've never had
that problem before.
I originally had 2 entries in my router setup for Echolink...one for
TCP and the other for UDP...but found it was easier to just set it for BOTH, with ports 5198 to 5200.
Mine is just a single user setup, although at times, I will put EchoAnswer on. It's a "Virtual Answering Machine" for Echolink Single
User setups under Windows (it does NOT work in Sysop link or repeater mode)...but, I don't think it's registerable anymore. Yet, the unregistered version will still let you store 5 messages.
Nowadays, though...I operate D-Star and D-Rats more than Echolink.
Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote toEchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=-
As requested:
Don Sayler don.sayler@gmail.com [EchoIRLP] wrote toEchoIRLP@yahoogroups.com <=-
Do you mean echo_environment?
Here's that one...
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Sometimes, it does it on D-Star as well...it's like the system has to <SLAP!> the software to wake it up. No word if it sprints away
afterwards. <G>
With the added ports with Synchronet, and not being very computer inclined (except for setting up doors and batchfiles), I just told it
to do BOTH.
Never used EchoAnswer, but I rarely run in single user mode, except on
smartphones.
I have it on the Smartphone, but use it during a net if my internet connection goes down.
For me, seems to be DMR through my OpenSpot more than anything else.
I hear a lot of chatter about that on the D-Star Nets. I don't know
what the status of D-Star and DMR systems is in central Arkansas.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
It usually lasts about 5 to 10 seconds...whether with the USB Webcam
or Headset Mic. But, if I use the internal soundcard, the delay is
gone. However, with that, I can't get any audio on any internet media files, such as YouTube Videos.
I think the smartphone app has its own proxy server connection. Normally, on the desktop, I have the direct internet connection.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Sounds like something screwy on your system.
What was your first clue?? <G> It's probably something caused by one
of the recent Microsoft Windows updates. :D
As for the "End Of The Line" for the net, the ham who had been
running the Echolink Node for several years had been having numerous problems with it, likely with OS upgrades...and had "finally had
enough". The net itself had been running for nearly 9 years.
As for OS's, newer, is NOT always better...or like the tagline noted below. <G>
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Umm, maybe Windows :D
Like the tagline "Failure is not an option. It comes shipped with Windows". <G>
Should have installed EchoIRLP (creeping back on topic ;) ).
I think he had the Echolink node on a laptop with Windows 10, but
I've heard too many horror stories with Windows 8 and up. I'm perfectly happy with Windows 7. But, it may have also been a hardware issue with
the laptop, plus the internet connection. He also had numerous health issues, and it was just getting to be too much for him.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
I thought so. I admit I have been pleasantly surprised with Windows
XP, then Windows 7.
There's a graphic that I got from Facebook that showed various domiciles, per the version of Windows.
Windows 95 started with a simple 2 room cottage...a bit nicer than a tree house (I guess that was Windows 3.x) <G>.
Then, it was Windows 98 and 2000, which were similar, but slightly larger.
Windows XP was a nice, multi-level structure, with a garage.
Windows Vista was upside down, with the roof on the ground...and a ladder you had to climb to get into it. <G>
Windows 7 was a very nice structure, and Windows 8 looked like a
massive playground structure.
I'm not sure what Windows 10 looked like...Windows 9 was invisible, though (M$ skipped over it). :P
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